Minnesota

Update from the Winona sting
Eden Roc 1 Reviews 1491 reads
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1 / 29

I suggest do a search for the online version of the Winona newspaper. Can't be too many.

Eden Roc 1 Reviews 1572 reads
posted
2 / 29

Next time you think about cooperating with LE, get a lawyer and that immunity offer in writing or no deal.

kassonova 6 Reviews 1329 reads
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3 / 29

Maybe she has some priors, or a charge that is larger waiting.  Maybe she was caught with more than just a lust for the male body.
PM me and I'll tell you more of the story.

But I carry my bread dough in a baggy!

When this snow is gone, i will be too.  But it is fun playing in someone else' sandbox.

LuckyIrishPrick 6 Reviews 1226 reads
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4 / 29

don't think about cooperating at all. The majority of the time they can't make a case against YOU without YOUR help. Their job is NEVER to help YOU, no matter what THEY say.

If you are too much of a coward to stand up for yourself, or too dumb to have a contingiency plan for this circumstance, find something else to do.

I hope they put that dumb bitch UNDER the jail - that's what she gets, fucking rat ho.

LuckyIrishPrick 6 Reviews 1668 reads
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5 / 29

FUCK her. Can't handle the consequences of her own actions so she thinks she can take everyone else down with her. No sympathy. Again - FUCK HER. Don't care if you like it or not.

RoseMallowe See my TER Reviews 1310 reads
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6 / 29

This has been covered before, stfu,

LE can and will lie to get what they want

and they have quotas to fill

vorlon 119 Reviews 3661 reads
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7 / 29

According to the Winona paper, the escort has been charged.  Wonder how she feels about having cooperated with LE now.  Guess that depends on what they "promised" her

hardyharhar 83 Reviews 1586 reads
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8 / 29

Posted By: vorlon
According to the Winona paper, the escort has been charged.  Wonder how she feels about having cooperated with LE now.  Guess that depends on what they "promised" her
link?

Madalyn See my TER Reviews 1533 reads
posted
10 / 29

I'm not saying what she did was right.  This response is inapprorpiate.  You're scary, dude.

purplewildflower See my TER Reviews 757 reads
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11 / 29

Posted By: RoseMallowe
This has been covered before, stfu,

LE can and will lie to get what they want

and they have quotas to fill
I believe you are correct.

asphcowboy 3 Reviews 763 reads
posted
12 / 29

sounds like she has 'issues!'   once you guys find the article....search her name in the search bar of the newspaper....shes had several dealings with LE....probably why they didnt want to strike a deal. PM for details.

LuckyIrishPrick 6 Reviews 1586 reads
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13 / 29

So you don't believe that you have enough capacity for common sense while under duress to realize that rolling over for them is counter to your best interest?

If that's true, that fact is what should frighten to you. Next time you 'date', tie a string around your finger to remind youself that intelligent people should not be so easily manipulated, and perhaps even dare to speculate that in a room full of ego-driven peons from a vice squad, you may very well be the smartest guy in the room.

741512th 34 Reviews 1008 reads
posted
14 / 29

. . . who arrested her.  The "Southeast Minnesota Narcotics and Gang Taskforce."  Well, its good to know that there is no more gang and narcotics activity in Southeast Minnesota.  Otherwise, they wouldn't have had the time to send the entire task force to enforce a misdemeanor prostitution bust.

741512th 34 Reviews 1697 reads
posted
15 / 29

The part of my brain that is enjoying re-reading The Federalist Papers by Hamilton, Jay, and Madison has a tendency to be capable of only "ohshitohshitohshitohshit" when I'm scared.  I also don't approve of her helping to sting hobbiests, but I don't know how brave or analytical I'd be when the time came either.

-- Modified on 12/13/2010 6:14:06 AM

My Name is Earl 1187 reads
posted
16 / 29

There is more to this story than a simple prostitution bust.

staefaboy 31 Reviews 1187 reads
posted
17 / 29

It's pretty basic and has been covered here countless times. NEVER talk to police, with the exception of providing your name and address. That is all you are required to say.

Miranda clearly states: "Anything you say can and will be used against you." There is absolutely NOTHING you can say that will help you in any way, shape or form - no matter what they say or promise. Anything you say prior to being Mirandized can also be used.

I realize that if/when you are put into the position of having to deal with the cops your adrenaline starts pumping and you're scared. They are trained to capitalize on your fears. They will say anything, act like they are trying to help you, promise you things, threaten you, etc. It doesn't mean crap.

Keep the name and phone number in your cell phone or wallet of an attorney who specializes in prostitution. If they have not formally arrested you (they will typically say they are placing you under arrest and read you your Miranda rights) ask if you are free to leave. if they do not respond continue to ask until they give you a yes or no response.

If they do arrest you ask them when you can make your phone call. Your FIRST call should go to the attorney - not your buddy, your wife, or anyone else.

That's my 2 cents!

RoseMallowe See my TER Reviews 830 reads
posted
18 / 29

the sons a bitches still lied, sounds like she didn't learn from past mistakes

MsChayse 934 reads
posted
19 / 29

She's not going to bargain with them & take the fall for one charge if more wasn't at stake. Regardless, (IMHO) she made her choices all by her lil ol lonesome, & should take the fall ALONE!! In essence, she has potentially destroyed these guys lives because they complimented her by showing an interest in paying for her company. What ever the consequences she spared herself of, I would hope, & suspect the alternative consequences are going to hurt her the most.

randomlyoutspoken 1205 reads
posted
20 / 29

Why are you and so many people willing to take the side of the escort with so little information?  This woman has a number of convictions including one felony and you still attack the police for lying; is it just some dislike for authority figures that makes you so negative toward the police?

As was pointed out before, this was done by the narcotics people.  Did you ever think that she had drugs IN HER POSSESSION and they decided not to arrest her for possession but only prostitution?

Also the article says misdemeanor prostitution.  Not gross misdemeanor, which I think it could have been since it was a "public" place.  Maybe that was the deal.  

Nobody here knows the full story.  And without all the information it seems like a personality flaw to harbor such animosity toward a group of people who, overall, are good for society.

randomlyoutspoken 949 reads
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21 / 29

Posted By: vorlon
...I suspect that what we really hate is the side of a legal system that criminalizes sex between consenting adults when it is pay to play...
So blame the legislature or blame the hotel/motel owners who don't want prostitution taking place in their establishments who notify LE.
Posted By: vorlon
Well, for one thing they may have primarily been after her for drug offenses but that didn't stop them from charging her for prostitution or using her to snare a couple of guys looking for good time.
Here, blame the escort.  I don't really want police ignoring offenses just because they disagree with it being a crime.  The way I see it, the police were just doing their job and all the resentment seems misplaced.  
Posted By: vorlon

There are plenty of people out there who are doing terrible such as stealing, assaulting, kidnapping, rape, murder, etc. I completely support LE efforts to stop such things and catch the people who do them and I find it a terrible waste of scarce resources (which we help pay for) when they go after people for doing what we do.
Adding a few vice officers hardly affects the efforts of the rest of the police force to catch all the people you mentioned.  Also note that a great deal of prostitution busts involve other criminal activity.  I bet you can count on one hand the times that a sting is set up when there is neither a public place involved (think of the aforementioned hotel owners who may not want it taking place at their establishment) nor a suspected felony (like some kind of human trafficking, drug activity, pimping, etc.)

starlight1970 1209 reads
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22 / 29

There should be a "like" and "dislike" button on the forum!!! That would save a bunch of time reading all the posts that say the same frickin thing over and over....

vorlon 119 Reviews 765 reads
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23 / 29

It's easy for us to say what we should or should not do in such a situation but unless you've actually faced it, who knows if you would remember to be quiet or panic.  Many members o LE are professionals trained in tactics to try and get the person they are questioning to do exactly that, panic and/or say something stupid.

vorlon 119 Reviews 982 reads
posted
24 / 29

Well, for one thing they may have primarily been after her for drug offenses but that didn't stop them from charging her for prostitution or using her to snare a couple of guys looking for  good time.

For another, I suspect that what we really hate is the side of a legal system that criminalizes sex between consenting adults when it is pay to play.  There are plenty of people out there who are doing terrible such as stealing, assaulting, kidnapping, rape, murder, etc. I completely support LE efforts to stop such things and catch the people who do them and I find it a terrible waste of scarce resources (which we help pay for) when they go after people for doing what we do.

purplewildflower See my TER Reviews 1163 reads
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25 / 29

If this site did that, it would get sued. Lol I wouldn't mind a poke though.

Logically_Cheap 791 reads
posted
26 / 29

A like / dislike button in the forum so we don't have to read the same comments over and over.

vorlon 119 Reviews 1027 reads
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27 / 29

Posted By: randomlyoutspoken
Posted By: vorlon
...I suspect that what we really hate is the side of a legal system that criminalizes sex between consenting adults when it is pay to play...
So blame the legislature or blame the hotel/motel owners who don't want prostitution taking place in their establishments who notify LE.
There are plenty of people to blame but I don't give a pass to the people in the LE system who are involved.  The "I am only following orders" argument only carries so much water,
Posted By: vorlon
Well, for one thing they may have primarily been after her for drug offenses but that didn't stop them from charging her for prostitution or using her to snare a couple of guys looking for good time.
Here, blame the escort.  I don't really want police ignoring offenses just because they disagree with it being a crime.  The way I see it, the police were just doing their job and all the resentment seems misplaced.
Sometimes you are faced with the choice of doing the right thing or the wrong thing.  I believe they did the wrong thing.  She was apparently involved in other illegal activities and simply arrested her for that.  They chose not to and yes at some point someone in the system chose to do more than that went along with it.  Sometimes people have to be willing to ask themselves if what they are doing in the course of doing their job is really the right thing to do.
Posted By: vorlon

There are plenty of people out there who are doing terrible such as stealing, assaulting, kidnapping, rape, murder, etc. I completely support LE efforts to stop such things and catch the people who do them and I find it a terrible waste of scarce resources (which we help pay for) when they go after people for doing what we do.
Adding a few vice officers hardly affects the efforts of the rest of the police force to catch all the people you mentioned.  Also note that a great deal of prostitution busts involve other criminal activity.  I bet you can count on one hand the times that a sting is set up when there is neither a public place involved (think of the aforementioned hotel owners who may not want it taking place at their establishment) nor a suspected felony (like some kind of human trafficking, drug activity, pimping, etc.)
Those few vice officers could be doing something else, like going after human trafficker or pimps or other types of real crime.

LuckyIrishPrick 6 Reviews 1306 reads
posted
28 / 29

Panic all you want. How hard is it to NOT talk? Not very. They have to make a case. Incriminating yourself is often the only way they can do it. If you willingly provide them with what they need to prosecute you, you are an idiot. There is a difference between fear and stupidity - ask a war vet.  

vorlon 119 Reviews 1264 reads
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29 / 29

If you have that presence of mind, more power to you.  Most people aren't war vets and I suspect they are all too likely to talk when confronted with armed, uniformed men who are slapping handcuffs on them.

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