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is clear and prompt communication - the medium does not matter per se. Many providers seem to prefer email for initial set-up followed by telephone on the day of the appointment, which works well for me.

My guess is that emails help providers identify potential clients that are serious, have done their homework and are articulate and nice.  
Phone calls (unless client and provider play tag well via voice mails) require two people to be available at the same time, and that can be difficult to coordinate. And voice mail boxes can quickly become full, especially for providers

I see that most girls hate text messages and many don't have an email address listed in their ads. I sort of get mot listing prices, but this just makes it harder to decide who to call if you don't have all the info you need to book and appointment.

I can't be the only guy that has enough privacy to email or text, but a private phone discussion is harder to set up. Almost everyone has a smart phone and there are tons of free email sites that will let you set up a separate email address for just about anything.

So why don't more girls use email?

"most" well established providers don't mind email, and sometimes prefer it. I also think if if you have a good repeat business repoir will allow texting for booking. IMHO

I know I'm strange but I prefer texting over emailing any day! Lol.

I never noticed that about your ads. I see "no texting" so often that when it's missing I assume it should be there.  

Thanks for the reminder to read ads more closely!

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I think that sounds more like an by an BP gal- and don't forget, no black guys.
Telephone only- no screening- good fucking luck

Thumper, wtf are you talking about? What's a troll?

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trolling is a fishing term(and a term some horndogs use to be on the lookout for some pussy)- first putting your bait in the water, turn on your low speed trolling motor, and cruise around the lake looking to land some northern and walleyes, to name a few.  

trolling for fish is like looking for pussy

My experience is that the ones who don't want emails or texts are more often bait and switch, bad agencies, and in general are looking to book on the spot appts ... They are looking for the guys who are calling spontaneously and/or possibly partying/drunk to get as much out of them as they can. They aren't looking for repeat business and they aren't organized enough to plan in advance. When one girl is on a call, another one will answer and pretend to be the one on the call. These aren't the only reasons but these are the ones I know.  Elite providers often use or prefer email and texts.  

I was briefly employed by one of those bad agencies and learned their bad practices. I didn't like the way they did things nor did I like anyone telling me what to do so I went Indy and run my business professionally. Bad agencies avoid the types of clients that I get now; informed, intelligent, gentlemen who I'm so lucky to call friends now.

Very true... Well said!

Posted By: brilove
My experience is that the ones who don't want emails or texts are more often bait and switch, bad agencies, and in general are looking to book on the spot appts ... They are looking for the guys who are calling spontaneously and/or possibly partying/drunk to get as much out of them as they can. They aren't looking for repeat business and they aren't organized enough to plan in advance. When one girl is on a call, another one will answer and pretend to be the one on the call. These aren't the only reasons but these are the ones I know.  Elite providers often use or prefer email and texts.  
   
 I was briefly employed by one of those bad agencies and learned their bad practices. I didn't like the way they did things nor did I like anyone telling me what to do so I went Indy and run my business professionally. Bad agencies avoid the types of clients that I get now; informed, intelligent, gentlemen who I'm so lucky to call friends now.  

is clear and prompt communication - the medium does not matter per se. Many providers seem to prefer email for initial set-up followed by telephone on the day of the appointment, which works well for me.

My guess is that emails help providers identify potential clients that are serious, have done their homework and are articulate and nice.  
Phone calls (unless client and provider play tag well via voice mails) require two people to be available at the same time, and that can be difficult to coordinate. And voice mail boxes can quickly become full, especially for providers

I thought the polar opposite was true, I'd love to know. I do not list a phone number and I operate EXCLUSIVELY via email.  

I will never understand how this could possibly work comfortably and conveniently. Getting calls from gentlemen I have never met at any time of the day or night? This would never work with my lifestyle. I'm at work, with family, friends, neighbors, at one of my classes, etc etc etc.  

Those conversations would be the most awkward, uncomfortable, one-sided, (since in any of those situations I do not have discretion to speak to someone interested in an appointment) and basically unproductive.  

Email only, ALL the way, always and forever. It can be done discreetly even when I'm not alone in most cases. I can check email when my schedule allows it. It gives me complete control to answer inquiries when I have the time to do so.  

I cannot imagine having my everyday life interrupted with texts or phone calls and attempting to verify a gentleman when it's likely I'm occupied at that moment or do not have privacy to speak freely.  

Is it my imagination, or is it very unrealistic that a lady is doing absolutely nothing and is alone with complete privacy waiting for the phone to ring?  

I would also never call another lady if I am seeking a reference. It is my practice to gather the information and have it streamlined in one neat little email package for her to respond to when it is convenient for her, as I am requesting a professional courtesy and would never wish to interrupt her.  

That's how Astrid operates, anyway...

Peace,

Astri

It is great to get a very nice email from a gent in which he tells me about himself and provides his screening info and references right from the get go!

Those emails are like a dream come true!! Perfect approach, IMO!

xoxo
AE

Posted By: belindabell
It is great to get a very nice email from a gent in which he tells me about himself and provides his screening info and references right from the get go!      

was when I was starting out and using BP as my only resource. I didn't know how to research just call and hope it worked out. Now email communication makes it all so smooth. Email or no email, seems like it's all about the type of lady you choose to see professional and business like or by the seat of the pants and hope for the best.

 

 

Posted By: LadyAstrid
I thought the polar opposite was true, I'd love to know. I do not list a phone number and I operate EXCLUSIVELY via email.  
   
 I will never understand how this could possibly work comfortably and conveniently. Getting calls from gentlemen I have never met at any time of the day or night? This would never work with my lifestyle. I'm at work, with family, friends, neighbors, at one of my classes, etc etc etc.  
   
 Those conversations would be the most awkward, uncomfortable, one-sided, (since in any of those situations I do not have discretion to speak to someone interested in an appointment) and basically unproductive.  
   
 Email only, ALL the way, always and forever. It can be done discreetly even when I'm not alone in most cases. I can check email when my schedule allows it. It gives me complete control to answer inquiries when I have the time to do so.  
   
 I cannot imagine having my everyday life interrupted with texts or phone calls and attempting to verify a gentleman when it's likely I'm occupied at that moment or do not have privacy to speak freely.  
   
 Is it my imagination, or is it very unrealistic that a lady is doing absolutely nothing and is alone with complete privacy waiting for the phone to ring?  
   
 I would also never call another lady if I am seeking a reference. It is my practice to gather the information and have it streamlined in one neat little email package for her to respond to when it is convenient for her, as I am requesting a professional courtesy and would never wish to interrupt her.  
   
 That's how Astrid operates, anyway...  
   
 Peace,  
   
 Astrid  
 

I am still new, but I can't imagine just cold calling someone to try and set something up.  Thankfully there are many women I can easily contact by e-mail with profiles on P411 to try and set something up in the Minnesota area.  I have pretty much only used my phone for the final 2 calls to get to the incall.  I don't even have my phone on unless I am expecting a call.

So, thankfully my experience to date has been the opposite.

Browsing on BP... yeah, I see many ads with only a phone number listed, though.

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Just remember, in order to utilize BP ads, you need to set it up connected to an email address. SO even if te provider does not have an email listed, that ad has an email attached, you can always email it. Whether you get a response or not, might be a different story.

I normally send texts as it is next to impossible for me get privacy long enough to have that discussion without raising suspicion.

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Readers of this forum should be aware of the significant security differences between these forms of communication.

1) Text Messaging (SMS) - Text messages are almost always sent without encryption (i.e. in "clear text" that anyone can read), are typically stored for some period of time by the service providers ("forever" is a safe assumption), and can be provided to LE upon request. (They can also be read and stored be intermediaries during transmission, though this is probably of lesser concern for this community. You can probably assume that all text messages sent in the US are stashed away in some federal government data farm). If the addresses of the sender and recipient can be tied to specific persons then there is clearly a LE liability. Since nearly all text messages are sent by cell phones and cell phones always give up location information to the carriers, it's not as difficult for LE to tie 'prepaid' phones to individuals as you might think.) It is my understanding that LE generally doesn't require court approval to access SMS information from the carrier - they just nee to ask for it -- and carriers are pretty cooperative with such requests (in the US).

2) Email (SMTP) - Email has nearly all the security risks as SMS, though it is easier to send encrypted email and there are plenty of email service providers that make it easy for even the least technically savvy sender to use. (If I'm considering different providers, I'll almost always prefer the one that uses encrypted email -- if they have a hushmail account , for example -- over the one that doesn't.)

It is easier to set up an "anonymous" email account but it requires discipline and some savvy to not leak information which allows LE to tie using the account to you. Be aware that some email service providers (i.e. gmail) basically store your email forever and "mine" it's contents as part of their "service". That could be problematic for users in this community. (I avoid providers that use gmail.)  

As with SMS, it is my understanding that LE  doesn't require court approval to access email information from the carrier - they only need to ask -- but email service providers tend to be less cooperative to request that don't come from a court. This area of law has been getting a lot of attention lately and may well change in the not too distant future  (in the US).

3) Phone (standard and cellular telephony) - While it's certainly possible to intercept and record phone calls -- it is the exception, not the rule (NSA tomfoolery aside) and the legal hurdles are in place for LE (in the US). As a result, the information readily available to LE is the so-called "metadata" that has been so much in the news lately. So, the content of a phone call is likely more secure than the content of SMS or (unencrypted) email (encryption in consumer-grade phones is nonexistent).

Beware of leaving "voicemail" -- that makes the message behave more like an email (in some cases, exactly like).

 
There is also more modern telephony (VOIP -- like "Skype", "SIP phones", etc.) but this don't seem to play a part in this community.
 

Posted By: Riley007
I see that most girls hate text messages and many don't have an email address listed in their ads. I sort of get mot listing prices, but this just makes it harder to decide who to call if you don't have all the info you need to book and appointment.  
   
 I can't be the only guy that has enough privacy to email or text, but a private phone discussion is harder to set up. Almost everyone has a smart phone and there are tons of free email sites that will let you set up a separate email address for just about anything.  
   
 So why don't more girls use email?

It's a good reminder of why providers tell us to not discuss the "menu" i.e. what services they offer, beyond legal stuff like massage, on the phone, or in texts & emails... it's for their security, and OURS!

Because I'm often in places where I either can't hear or have a conversation over the phone.
I'm thinking it's mostly a BP thing .
xo V.

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