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LRob65 11 Reviews 1676 reads
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... that between March of 2007 until January of 2011 you (Mngopher) never gave out a single perfect score in any of your 27 reviews.  Beginning with February of 2011, you are now scoring that way 30% of the time.  Otherwise it is 50% of the time being 9s or higher.  It might not just be that "everyone else" that is scoring too high.  It could be that "everyone" is scoring higher than before.

I am not taking a shot here by any means (not purposely anyways), so hopefully nobody will get defensive or venomous.  The numbers are merely statistics and you can read into them whatever you want to really...  I try to go less by the numbers and more about what is relayed in the stories...

Is it just me, or is it a lot easier for a provider to get higher review scores now than in the past? 10s seem common place now. Six months or so ago they were very rare. I know there are providers that deserve them, but it seems like a lot more of the newer providers are getting them now. I don't think its fair to the providers who have been here for a while and were judged on a much stricter review scale in the past. Or maybe some of us hobbyists are being too generous with our scores. Just throwing it out there for discussion. I'm interested in thoughts your from both hobbyists and providers.......

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In my opinion there is my competition than when I first started. With evolution of the internet this hobby has been more accesible. From when I started to now I find,myself having to work hardee.

Posted By: Mngopher
Is it just me, or is it a lot easier for a provider to get higher review scores now than in the past? 10s seem common place now. They were very rare in the past. I know there are providers that deserve them, but it seems like a lot more providers are getting them now. Maybe some of us hobbyists are being too generous with our scores. Just throwing it out there for discussion. I'm interested in thoughts your from both hobbyists and providers.......

gg891167 reads

Perhaps you could try answering your phone at the time you set an appointment. Or sometime in the multiple hours afterward when someone is trying to hand over compensation to you. Just a brief suggestion on how you might increase profits....

Posted By: gingermpls
In my opinion there is my competition than when I first started. With evolution of the internet this hobby has been more accesible. From when I started to now I find,myself having to work hardee.
Posted By: Mngopher
Is it just me, or is it a lot easier for a provider to get higher review scores now than in the past? 10s seem common place now. They were very rare in the past. I know there are providers that deserve them, but it seems like a lot more providers are getting them now. Maybe some of us hobbyists are being too generous with our scores. Just throwing it out there for discussion. I'm interested in thoughts your from both hobbyists and providers.......

...about the statistics, but it seems to me that the "once in a lifetime" designation should be limited to one per reviewer.  I mean, if I gave out two tens,  then doesn't one of them by definition have to be bogus?

adsumsparkle1819 reads

I was just thinking that the other day!! If someone gives a "once in a lifetime" score, they shouldnt give it to 10 different providers! This makes his 10s very unbelievable.
When I first began 6 years ago, it WAS ALOT harder to receive a 10. In fact, if a 10 was given, many times TER would mark it down to a 9 or an 8. Even if a 9 was given, my reviewers complained that TER marked it to an 8. That doesnt seem to happen as often anymore......Im glad my higher scores can STICK now!
It's easy for a new provider to get to the top 100 now with only 20 reviews necessary to do so! And with all the tens being given so freely!!

steve778900--1490 reads

I think they should put a newbie restriction in affect.  Unsure how they would do it but I've found myself re evaluating my review scale now that I've seen a number of providers.  If you start out to high with the first lady and the second lady is better you can only go up.  Pretty soon your at a 10 real quick.  Then you figure in nothing to compare the first ladies service too.  Looking back I should have seen a handfull of ladies then figure out my grading.  What I thought was good service with my first lady was really not to the level others have shown me.

I think this was kind of my experience. Starting out I had so much...well bleh, that when I learned the ropes so to speak and found this site to be a useful tool that opinions could change. However I did not review them. The one I did actually try to give a once in a lifetime experience was rejected, yet I still feel to this day it was a once in a lifetime experience. But then again I still am kind of a nub and have yet to experience so much in life. Have yet to really met those girls that give the "10/10", yet doesn't that say something when someone who is not as highly rated gives that experience that you leave thinking it just could not be better? Kind of settle where I am at so maybe missing out on something, but have learned the hard way that you just are not going to get that once in a lifetime by randomly calling whoever is available.

Posted By: steve778900--
I think they should put a newbie restriction in affect.  Unsure how they would do it but I've found myself re evaluating my review scale now that I've seen a number of providers.  If you start out to high with the first lady and the second lady is better you can only go up.  Pretty soon your at a 10 real quick.  Then you figure in nothing to compare the first ladies service too.  Looking back I should have seen a handfull of ladies then figure out my grading.  What I thought was good service with my first lady was really not to the level others have shown me.

I have had scores reduced in the past, but none lately.  The truth of the matter is that there never has been a 10 point system unless it is something along the lines of a ripoff.  When I search for a provider, I look to 9/10 ratings consistently.  Lately there have been a number of providers that are rated "7" by one review and "10" by the next.  That is an indication that someone is no accurately the lady.  

As far a multiple 10's go, I regard the phrase "once in a lifetime" as hyperbole. Ten is the highest rating on the system and I give that out when I have what I regard as the best possible experience.  This can certainly occur with more than one individual.  My reviews tend toward 10/10, because that is the score I seek out....

... that between March of 2007 until January of 2011 you (Mngopher) never gave out a single perfect score in any of your 27 reviews.  Beginning with February of 2011, you are now scoring that way 30% of the time.  Otherwise it is 50% of the time being 9s or higher.  It might not just be that "everyone else" that is scoring too high.  It could be that "everyone" is scoring higher than before.

I am not taking a shot here by any means (not purposely anyways), so hopefully nobody will get defensive or venomous.  The numbers are merely statistics and you can read into them whatever you want to really...  I try to go less by the numbers and more about what is relayed in the stories...

adding-my-2-cents1206 reads

Somebody has WAY too much time on his hands.... must be an accountant.....lol

LRob, thats my point here. In the past TER would downgrade a review if they felt the scores were too high. That happened to me a few times. Something changed with TER"s rating system about 6 months to a year ago. You see it on other guys reviews that have been here for a while too. All I'm trying to say is that it's a lot easier to get higher scores now than in the past. Which in a way is unfair to the providers that have been doing this for more than a year or two, because they were rated on the stricter system and could'nt get the scores that are given now. No harm taken.

For my 2 cents, I think you are giving this outfit a lot of credit to say that there IS a system and that anybody is following it.  I just got notices in September 2011 that two reviews I wrote in 2008 had been downgraded.  Maybe they're just running behind.

only lower the performance score when the services criteria is not met.   I've never believed it but what do I know.

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..... since I only have a little under 2 yrs "under my skirt" lol but I have noticed some markets grade a little harder than others.

Posted By: Mngopher
Is it just me, or is it a lot easier for a provider to get higher review scores now than in the past? 10s seem common place now. Six months or so ago they were very rare. I know there are providers that deserve them, but it seems like a lot more of the newer providers are getting them now. I don't think its fair to the providers who have been here for a while and were judged on a much stricter review scale in the past. Or maybe some of us hobbyists are being too generous with our scores. Just throwing it out there for discussion. I'm interested in thoughts your from both hobbyists and providers.......

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I can't speak for years past but ...

Why should this be so different from regular life? Many of us have had more than one new love, more than one true love. I can remember the "first time" with more than one true love and all were different and all were once-in-a-lifetime experiences in their own way. This is true even though all had imperfections, as does every one of us, client and provider. (I remember some lesser experiences, too, unfortunately).

The idea that only one woman ever that you are with can be a 10 fails to account for the fact that all women are different.  For TER, if the performance was fabulous, then fabulous plus menu can easily equal 10 (even 11). The criteria is how she was with you.  It's your experience.  Also, add to the mix the idea of "different but equal" and more than one "once-in-a-lifetime" becomes an even more reasonable prospect. Can one provider be better than the other and both be 10's? Of course they can.

And then there's the whole "eye of the beholder thing." For example, I find Angelina Jolie to be outright unattractive, for example (how dare they cast her as Lara Croft). But I could easily fall for an Amy Smart or Milla Jovovich type (I have a mental list from skinny to rubenesque). Also, it shouldn't be surprising that someone may not be model material (9), yet they leapfrog that and are a 10 in your eyes for different reasons.

(And what about doubles? Is a 10 in appearance impossible because there can be only one 10? Of course not.)

It seems to me that everyone should look forward to their "next" 10/10!

Just as an '8' is called 'Really Hot' is just a figure of speech. It doesn't meant that her body temperature  is excessively greater than 98.6 degrees.
A 10 in performance is pretty easily achieved for many women according to the objective scoring criteria.
There are many women in the entertainment, modeling and escorting industries that are worthy of a 10 for looks; there is not one most beautiful woman in the world.
The Maxim Hot 100 is a list in which most men would consider many of those women '10s'. And every year there are new ones added to the list.
I wouldn't get too hung up on the word descriptions that go with the numeric scores. It's just meant as a guideline.


'Relax....it's just sex.'

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I've always thought the  "9 - Model Material" selection was not good because quite a few of the models I see online or on magazine covers I don't think are exceptionally attractive and I've seen quite a few escorts whom I know don't fit the classic appearance of a model but I think are hotter than most modes.

I find all women to be beautiful in their own way and I look for things that enhance their beauty.  Their attitude, playfulness will add or detract from rating them a 10.   We all know beautiful women that have less than desirable personalities, either they are very standoffish or not intelligent enough to hold a conversation.  To me, I will drop their score because of it.   Obviously their body shape is one but there is not one perfect body shape out their.  I love women of all sizes and find that I am attracted to more than just their body but how comfortable they're with their body shape.  to me there is nothing more beautiful and sexy than a woman that feels confident and comfortable in their own skin.  But, I can't stand when an obviously beautiful women thinks she is better than everyone simply because she has gorgeous traditional features.  Another factor for me and it might not be fair to use it in the appearance rating is how much time they spend with me.  if the woman is in a clock-watcher that might hurt her score versus the wonderful ladies that i have mostly seen that are not watching the clock and are in no hurry for me to leave.   This gets back to the attitude, atmosphere and playfulness i mentioned earlier.  I have rated women higher because i felt more of a connection than i did with another provider.   Lastly, how comfortable they make me feel is important too.  I am always extremely nervous at the start.  The women that have received the highest ratings from me made me feel very comfortable from the start and it only got better throughout our time together.  

BTW completely agree with Angelina Jolie and also feel that way about Julia Roberts.   But, that discussion is probably for another thread.

Thank goodness for the differences.  One person's 8 could be another's 10 and vice versa.  We all have our own personal preferences as far as looks And performance goes.  I prefer more of an ethnic look and I know may others prefer the blond hair, blue eyed look.  Some guys have to have great kissing as a part of their session and others could care less about kissing.  We all rate according to Our preferences and how Our expections are met.  And yes, vive la difference.  That's what makes this fun.

Stephano82111192 reads

Might help if each review had a short generic profile of the reviewer so that hobbyists could make a more apples to apples comparison of reviews.  Like number of providers seen, years in the hobby, age, etc?  That may help explain some of the differences in the review scores with different providers when reading reviews.

But you can easily see the review history for each reviewer; just click on their handle.

What I don't understand is why the rating system is 1-10 anyway, when in reality that lower half of the scale means nothing.
What's a 1? What's a 3? What's a 5? Would anyone on this board actually go see anyone with those ratings? Would anyone see a 6? It kind of seems, to a newb anyway, that the real scale we're using to compare providers is 7-10, which is a very small scale when a 10 is a once in a lifetime experience and 7's aren't necessarily viewed as a positive rating. Inflation at work?
I'm newer to this, but the TER 1-10 system doesn't seem to work the way that scale would work anywhere else.

.... I see it more or less as how the person viewed the girl in his personal tastes (some rate theirs alongside what others have) and how good the date(s) were for them assuming they are being honest.

I've never been rated above a 7 for looks....hasn't hurt by business or change that tho i'm not a supermodel i'm a pretty girl (and not just pretty for a bbw which i've caught whiff some take off a point or 2 just for that lol). Hell i'm meh to some and sexy as hell to others.... it is what it is.

Apparently a "TER" 7 is a real life 5.... i've read that on here somewhere lol *shrugs*.  7's for performance aren't seen as negative either just not stellar but if people break away from numbers alone and READ THE CONTENT that's what should matter more right? Right.

Posted By: rustyguy68
What I don't understand is why the rating system is 1-10 anyway, when in reality that lower half of the scale means nothing.
What's a 1? What's a 3? What's a 5? Would anyone on this board actually go see anyone with those ratings? Would anyone see a 6? It kind of seems, to a newb anyway, that the real scale we're using to compare providers is 7-10, which is a very small scale when a 10 is a once in a lifetime experience and 7's aren't necessarily viewed as a positive rating. Inflation at work?
I'm newer to this, but the TER 1-10 system doesn't seem to work the way that scale would work anywhere else.

Well, if n one wrote a review with those scores, you'd have a much harder time knowing who not to see, right?  It only makes sense that most reviews are going to be in the 7-10 range because that's who guys will keep on seeing.

my_2Cents945 reads

A 10 now means "best time I've had in a long while."
Even DIY providers get 8's.

P.S.  Appearance ratings are very inflated.

And I'm starting to think 10 means - I'm just guessing because I WAS drunk.

Once in a lifetime performances - eh, I guess if it's the first and only time you're ever gonna fuck somebody than technically it is...me thinks they should do away with the verbage and use numerical values only, as the words attached to the scorez seem to lead people one way or another.

Seriously, ask a guy to just rate a chick on a 1-10 scale and the answer is pretty straight forward, guys do that shit all the time - but start telling him 10 means this and 9 means that etc... and then they have to over think it, and few know how to think with a hard-on.

I have met some at M&G's & am confused at the 10 scores!

a subjective process based on every person's tastes- you know, "the eye of the beholder". Please go back and read every one of Vorlon's post. He makes sense. I've given 10's to women who others have given 8's because I am blown away by her looks. Other 10's I've seen don't appeal to me. I always look at the reviewer's track record to get a sense of how they score and what they like to decide who I will see. I personally don't care if the numbers are over inflated, I still have to do my homework.

I noticed LDM52560 responded, and gave his reasons for his repeated 10's however, with his constant high scores he is either trying to curry favor or act as though the gal did something extra for him to pump his ego to the other trolls on the board.  I do not put any stock in his reviews because of this.  I no longer have VIP so just whack at me in front of everyone.  I know I am not the only one who feels this way, guys and gals included.

adsumsparkle1210 reads

is that....TER used to be stricter about letting scores pass through. It was much harder to get a 9 or a 10 than it is today. Now, I bet a girl could get a ten even with CBJ! It never used to be that way.
So, TER should update the way they rate the top 100, since the newer gals have never been under those strict rules they used to have. Our reviews from 5 years ago have generally lower scores than the ones allowed to pass today. It used to be MUCH harder to get a ten.....especially if one didnt allow world travels!  :)

Thanks Sparkle, thats EXACTLy what I was trying to say.

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