although I'm sad that we seem to have come to a point in our national consciousness where these kinds of things matter in ways that they used not to.
Make love, not war. pbNew providers,
If you have preference who you want to see, please note it on your try$t page, MN Er0t1c4 ad or in your text or email. A lot of providers have that type of note. Many hobbyists are respectful and understanding because hobbyists have preferences too. Many hobbyists are wonderful guests and hosts. So, please be respectful and don't "scam" them. Tell them upfront if you don't see Jews, Arabs, Latinos, Asians etc. No need to spew hateful racists comments toward them. IMO, if you then realize that the caucasian looking man you are about to hump were jewish or liberal, and you don't want to get "tainted", you should end the date early and give him back for the time that is not used as courtesy.
Sorry for the rant. I don't typically post here, but I have to say something. I've been spending time with many providers for almost 15 years. I met a lot of wonderful ladies; from WineyouWendy to Korine Kaizer, from Jenny Kennedy to Andrea Stone and I am a very good host.
Hobbyists,
Stick with the experienced providers or the one with minimum 10 positive reviews.
It goes both ways. In the initial date request why not introduce yourself as old/young, black white , or even Trump Hater/Lover or anything else that may be of concern.
Can eliminate a lot of possible discomfort in a session .
I saw a famous local not so long ago though and her opinions completely screwed the night.
All sorts of crazy points of view and conspiracy junk that she just assumed were logical.
It spoiled everything.
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although I'm sad that we seem to have come to a point in our national consciousness where these kinds of things matter in ways that they used not to.
Make love, not war.
pb
...with 2 adults sharing an hour or so of their time together. I'm pretty solid in my political views but it's never affected my work and I'm not sure why it would even come into play with a stranger that your about to have sex with. I think it says a great deal about the person that cannot be in the presence of another person with an opposite point of view.
If two adults can't be alone with each other w/o discussing politics, there's a problem.
If there is an adult that can't be around someone because of who they support, there's a major problem with that person and they should probably seek some clinical help.
100% correct.
Even the mindset of people who "can't be in the same room" as someone of the opposite political opinion is crazy. the people who can't be around family or cut off friends because of politics is insane.
This shows you the problem with EVERYONE right now. If politics plays that much of a role in your life.... sorry but something is wrong with you.
It’s always interesting to me when people suggest politics should be “separate” from this world. The reality is, sex work itself is political: laws, policing, banking, surveillance, even the platforms we use are shaped by politics. Your access depends on those politics. The only reason you even can book providers is because we’ve built ways to move through a criminalized landscape. That doesn’t exist in a vacuum.
Depoliticizing the encounter is easy to do when politics may not affect your daily survival (especially if male and white). But framing it as weakness or pathology if someone can’t detach is a stretch. You’re erasing the reality that politics are deeply entangled with identity, safety, and rights. We cannot treat alignment like a neutral aesthetic choice; because the reality is it isn’t, especially for marginalized people which sex workers as a whole, regardless of our other identities, are considered.
That said, my clientele really does split between Democrats and Republicans with some Libertarians as Socialists running around. And one thing I appreciate is that IF politics come up, we can often have thoughtful conversations without it turning hostile. I’ll say, “I hear you,” and they’ll say the same in return; that exchange is part of how we learn and grow from different backgrounds and perspectives.
But politics isn’t just abstract debate. From my perspective, it’s become about shared values. It’s how we live, how safe we are, & does everyone get the opportunity to thrive. For me, it’s not about whether someone leans left or right; it’s about whether their values align with mine enough that I can share space with them. Sometimes after a first date the answer is yes, sometimes it’s no.
And that’s what this ultimately comes down to: values alignment. You can’t ask a provider to provide intimacy without bringing values into the room because our values are inseparable from our safety, our dignity, our family, and our sovereignty.
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This thread could really be good!! Unfortunately, it's going to get bounced for being too, well, political.
This was enjoyable to read and the head scratching stopped at paragraph 3 where you seem to acknowledge that someone who voted for Trump might actually be a person who is at the very least, tolerable to be around for a short amount of time. This might not be obvious to many but there are some that find #47 personally unlikable but there were other reasons they felt left them no choice but to vote for and/or support him. I'll spare the readers WHY I may think one way or another and maybe this thread will live for a while if it doesn't descend in a political debate and stay on course with how politics play a part in the hobby. I'm in full agreement with Paige that politics and sex work are absolutely intertwined but let's not pretend politics doesn't play into many (or most) things in life that are important to different people and for different reasons.
If you met me on the street or anywhere in conversation, you would not know if I were a liberal, conservative or libertarian unless you wanted to find out, which would be weird. I don't wear my politics on my sleeve nor do I push them on anyone but I will engage without hesitation when someone throws a mudpie my direction.
As far as value alignment, well, who wouldn't want to see that because is just sounds to good and righteous. I would whole heartedly disagree with that statement, however. I don't seek value alignment when I want my car repaired, my teeth cleaned or my lower back adjusted. Nor would I want to make sure there was VA when getting my groceries checked, extricated from an auto accident or that tattoo I've always wanted on my ass. I coexist with everyone and treat everyone with dignity and respect until there is reason to do otherwise.
Why anyone would want to get into a political discussion with a provider or a client is beyond me. Do you check for value alignment with a server in a restaurant and follow that up with please don't spit in my food before you bring it out??
How would you respond when your date started telling you about hating Blacks, Asians, Jews and other people of color? I tried to steer the conversation to food, movies and sports, but she always came back with like I don't eat Mexican food because i don't want to support illegals, I hate movies because the entertainment world is controlled by Jews, I avoid watching Vikings now because of the gays on the cheer team. I was like WTF is going on. Could we just have a fun conversation? My d1ck was passed out after listening to her. That really pissed me off. Spending $$$$$ with no "ending"? that never happened to me before. She gave me a temporary ED.
I've been around for a long time and I know where some of the providers stand politically or who they prefer to see; you can follow them on X or if stated on their Try$t page or their "business" website, and I respect that, but this noobie doesn't have "fine print". My fault, and I will stick with known providers.
This new provider is going to read this post (eventually) and recognize who. She probably will dox me.
If so, this person is a full on nutjob rascist and she should be exposed as such. That's night and day different compared to how a person votes.
Someone has to go first, second, etc or it becomes really hard to see anyone.
First of all I've seen a few providers and several of them I am very fond of they are wonderful kind generous people who I would love to know in any capacity anytime anywhere.
But also along the line I have met up with a variety of individuals who have been on the sliding scale somewhere in the range of crazy and it makes perfect sense that if you are too crazy to hold down a regular job, which can be the case, you can still hold down this job if you're willing to do this job. This is a career option for individuals who do not have a lot of options sometimes.
I also try to keep in mind when I hear someone present a policy I try to consider how I would feel if it were applied one of my friends it helps me put a face and a story, what sounds like simply policy remember we do not get to choose the skin we're born into was a life we're born into. Remember there but for the grace of God go I.
Ladies thank you for putting up with our Sh**
anyone want to buy a slightly used soap box?