The clearing or verification process is ridiculously intrusive. They want name/phone number/employment info/utility bill/drivers license copy and a dna sample. Ok maybe not the dna sample but good lord. Is it worth it? I mean i want in but maybe not that bad.

others don't care who knows. Never give more personal information than you're comfortable giving and never forget that once you give it out you can never take it back.

you are already a fool parting with his money, don't be a fool parting with what's worth more and more money.

That's way too much personal info IMHO.  Plus agencies are of more interest to LE because of the potential for multiple arrests from one operation and then there is the real possibility of LE getting their hands on all that info.

Is this above and beyond having p411?   I have p411 and a number of okays.  The one agency I used just accepted the p411 and didn't ask for any additional info.

Without giving out your personal information.  Who knows what they might do with that, maybe they'll blackmail you?