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Once again, without apologies, and totally unfiltered, the Rocket launches another unfiltered commentary....
And if you apply common sense and look at it objectively, is totally correct. Many fine providers accept references, and none of the past Providers I’ve had the pleasure of seeing would I ever consider “bargain bin” but rather first class.

I've been seeing providers for quite awhile.  

I have plenty of references and that’s usually enough to get through the verification process.

However the last year or so I've ran into several that wanted my real name. I've always been hesitant to do so.

Am I being too paranoid? Whats everyones thoughts on this.

For me that’s a no. Personally I think it’s hypocritical that they want your real name and won’t give you theirs. I understand their need for safety, but who looks out for you? This hobby could turn a guys life upside down if his real info got out there. I’m not afraid to be outed, it’s more the hypocritical ness of wanting that information but not willing to provide it yourself? For me there has to be collateral information, if you want to know my info I’ll provide it in exchange for yours.  Not acceptable? Cool have a nice day, I’ll go give my money to the next willing provider and bust a nut with her.

Plenty of providers out there. Only provide what YOU are comfortable with. You owe these providers nothing outside of the Benjamins for the session. If 2-4 different providers okays does not meet your need for safety, I fail to see how personal information can make you feel safe?

I will never give out my real name. One provider saw my real name on my phone and a couple weeks later one of her co-workers lol asked me some personal questions already knowing the answers. I have had personal relationships with three providers (dating) but I got to know them very well and knew their names too. Those relationships are done and I only worry about one causing problems for me but not the other two. All three have dependency issues but the one could be vindictive.  So be very careful with your personal information.

In over 20 years now I don’t think I’ve been asked for my full name, existing references and white listings have been sufficient.  Here would be my advice:

It depends on your life situation.

Things happen, information leaks, people get busted...  There’s been at least 3 times over those 20 years (just the times I am aware of) where I my contact information was compromised one way or another on the provider side.  The reason I say it depends on your life situation is that your name in someone’s “little black book” is not in itself incriminating, and will likely have no legal consequence to you.  No way to charge someone for just being on someone’s list.  But...  Some jurisdictions, for instance St. Paul PD, have for a long time not sought to charge hobbyists but rather shame them by outing them publicly.  So the real risk is that a vigilante vice cop, knowing he can’t touch though legally, instead just makes sure your spouse knows you had been seeing someone.  These kinds of games happen more often than you think and something similar happened to me many years ago.  Anyway...  If you don’t have a spouse, the already small risk goes down even further.  Having a really common name but using an anonymous email and burner phone, reduces your risk as well.

One girl I wanted to see asked for my drivers license, work ID, work email and a selfie. I decided to look elsewhere.

There are quite a few very expensive ladies in other big cities that ask for a hell of a lot of info and they travel alot and are pretty prevalent on twitter. I have never noticed any of these ladies ever coming here and i don't think they would do well but I have seen it quite a bit where they want names, photo ids, work info, and all that or no date.

If the provider is well known, been around and reviewed for a while, I am more apt to give my name.  I tend to mostly book through p411, so those providers risk losing p411 should they do anything untoward with my private info.  

I'm sure most providers would not use that information against you but most is not all and all it takes is one to really screw your life up.

I put myself in the camp of never providing my real name. Occasionally that means I need to use the big head and walk away from a desirable liaison. Usually when requested, I try negotiating (my standing with local providers and on p411 is solid), but that has only worked once in my experience. As others have said, it's not for me to question their rules on that anymore than I might about a CBJ, and there are plenty of options to keep me happy.

I have been doing this for a few decades and I have only ever provided personal information once.

That was to Gina back in the day to get P411 Approval, I never did it before, and haven't done it since.

I could not have more respect for the legitimate ladies trying to protect themselves, but I do have a problem when they refuse to understand my need to protect myself.

And to be clear, I am not married, don't have a SO, and don't hide this from anyone. Some family members and most of my friends know what I do, and many are envious.  But I will stand on principle.

You show me yours, I'll show you mine.

I agree with many of the sentiments expressed above.  It's hypocritical for them to ask for ours but not provide theirs.
Just move on to another.  There are many good ones available.
One day in Nov. I reached out to someone I had not seen before, had a date, time, and length of visit set, then she asked for something with my name and picture.  I declined and named 3 references and said I had more if needed.  I also briefly described myself.  After a couple hours of no response, I inquired if she was still interested.  Then she asked for a work badge or ID and said she wanted to know who she is meeting.  I said I couldn't do that and offered to meet her first in a public place.  No response.  I suggested that my references were safer; end of communication.
The best part is that I reached out to another provider who is one of the best I have encountered recently and have repeated with her.  Moral is: move on.  The grass may be greener on the other side of the fence.

I do appreciate all the feedback on this and it pretty much confirms what I've always felt.

There is a woman traveling here next week that I really wanted to see but I think I'll think with the big head this time.  And in this little part of my world....thats not always the easy choice!

How would you, like to be treated in the event that caca happens. Worst case scenario. Have you ever thought about it?

Example: You die of a heart attack in a providers incall & she has no real life information. What will happen to you? John Doe

Could you even begin to imagine... What happens to the provider?  Do you have a plan? Having real life information helps everyone. If your seeing a provider who does not even know your real name wtf, do you expect? I care about my safety.

Do you give your real name to your clients?

What if you passed on during a session? Wouldnt the same sticky situation arrive for the customer?

I really don't have a problem with your asking if thats what makes you comfortable. I'm sure many don't have an issue with giving it and thats cool with me.

For me I'll do my best to keep my real info private and if I die as a result of sex with a provider at least I'll die smiling!

I do appreciate your feedback on here though as it helps us all see other points of view.

That's a really weak argument, imo.  If I am dead her having my real life info does me no good at all.  I am dead and literally could not care less (or at all, actually).   Also not worried about becoming a John Doe, as I would be dead and would not care.   Realistically, I will be identified at some point, as missing persons reports will be filed and my identity will be discovered.  

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There are plenty of providers you can without a reference that will then turn around and give you a good reference to use for future verification.  A couple of good provider references should be enough for the gal you want to see to ensure her safety. If she wants your actual identity then move on. This can only hurt you and potentially in a huge way.

Once again, without apologies, and totally unfiltered, the Rocket launches another unfiltered commentary....
And if you apply common sense and look at it objectively, is totally correct. Many fine providers accept references, and none of the past Providers I’ve had the pleasure of seeing would I ever consider “bargain bin” but rather first class.

I agree totally. I’ll take fun and down to earth every time, and come to think of it, I’ll save enough for actually a “extra time”. Not to mention, we are lucky to have some really pretty “massage Gals” in the Twin Cities.

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