Minnesota

Re:You Badass
rochmn 5302 reads
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1 / 53

I don't know Miggs at all. But his postings on this board  are just as important as any one else's.  I've been around for several years, and years ago the board was more interesting because everyone had a chance to contribute without being attacked for an opinion. Grow up everyone,  this is not  junior high school

vorlon 119 Reviews 100 reads
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2 / 53

An odd comment coming from someone who not that many days ago decided to call another poster a "white night."

The board has been pretty peaceful lately but there have been many times it has gotten quite unpleasant on here.  I don't know how you missed that as some of that has happened in the last few years.

IJMiggs 142 reads
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3 / 53

You literally post a response to every thread on the MN Forum and most of the time it is critical and negative to John’s.  I appreciate Roch’s experience, wisdom, and he has the right to speak his mind.  If he calls someone a white knight then so be it.  This forum is not a place for “woke culture” as we are engaging sex with women for $$$.

And the forum hasn’t been so peaceful as you claim.  The competition amongst some of the expensive overpriced local independents consistently attacking any praise of MNE massage girls that perform better service for half the price seem to be a conflict.  Paige evidentially gets $600 for 1 hour incall.  Congrats to Paige and that must be great.  So why is she so worried about the MNE girls earning what they deserve too?  Pretty strange, honestly.

snafu929 20 Reviews 104 reads
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4 / 53

....Opinions are like blah, blah and blah.  Those coming from anonymous players don't carry much weight as far as I'm concerned.  I think a guy like Miggs uses multiple aliases and does so to create a portion of the drama in here.  You may very well be one of them.   In his reply to yours, it only takes him a few lines to launch an attack on someone not even mentioned in the thread as he has an axe to grind with ANYONE who isn't a MNE supporter.  I've brought this up before, he's so entrenched in his support it leaves little doubt that he's got a vested interest.  I've had many pms from other members/contributors that also believe there's a connection of some sort as he's never missed an opportunity to defend/promote the site.

To me and many others, he has zero credibility.

3302667 24 Reviews 104 reads
posted
5 / 53

Also make a thread dedicated to me? That'd really boost the confidence of my inner middle schooler.

rochmn 96 reads
posted
6 / 53

You just proved my point.  I just said that posting on this forum without being attacked should  be the goal. It took you a couple of sentences to say I might be one of Migg's
aliases. Why did you feel the need to do that?

IMhornbody2 45 Reviews 87 reads
posted
7 / 53

not sure I want to read a thread written by an obvious alias with NO posts and NO reviews and talking about other posters on the board as just a random irrelevant "observation'. For all we know the thread is a set up by Miggs or maybe the alias is his  since he does not have any reviews either, while he talks his talk ......anyways  who cares !!! Lets spend some time talking about relevant things and personally I do not know either Miggs or Vorlon but i enjoy reading the thoughts of Vorlon as he posts on the threads and I try and read and take all opinions with a grain of salt, but they normally do not focus on negative statements.  

we seem to continue to whine about the dumbest things and probably 95 % of the ladies do not even get near the discussion board because I have been shocked to know that they (the providers) ask for a review but do not even read them half the time so if they don't read their personal reviews what makes us think we are talking to them or the schedulers? .....and that was stated to challenge the ladies to chime in and prove me wrong.....so I guess I will sit back now and watch the shit show

IJMiggs 102 reads
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8 / 53

I would think that you would find enjoyable outdoor ways to take up your time living in such a great summer location.  But instead your obsession with me continues.  

Let me be clear weirdo.  I am not rochmn despite the voices in your head telling you that I am.  Also, I do not have a vested interest in MNE even though you and your loner friend private message each other regarding this conspiracy.  Do yourself a favor and get over me.

snafu929 20 Reviews 91 reads
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9 / 53

Just got done cleaning a couple eyes and tossed them in the fridge for tomorrow night's dinner.  Not bored at all BUT I will go out of my way to respond to you, or when someone posts about you.  Why?  Because I think you're damn near predator level in your pursuit for pussy and you create hazards for all of us.  The day you told the world that you get off mostly on girls without high school degrees was the day you crossed over into some ninja level perversity.  That would make sense if you were a pimp, predator or some kind of whack who gets his nut by manipulation of vulnerable people.  But hey, I'm just going by your own words and posts over the years...

IJMiggs 137 reads
posted
10 / 53

I made a joke talking about how I would prefer non-college students working as Sugar Babies charging higher prices.  

I wonder what a provider would think about you sharing films of them being fucked with a camera or cell phone.  You make it sound like it’s no big deal but everyone knows this is very wrong and a violation of privacy.  Are you trying to say that filming an escort and sharing it with others is worse than a dumb joke?

3302667 24 Reviews 105 reads
posted
11 / 53

Don't change your preferences on us now. You wanted non Highschool educated girls in your case.

snafu929 20 Reviews 113 reads
posted
12 / 53

A gentleman shared 30(?) second video of his session that was being recorded with full knowledge and consent of the other person.  No, I didn't ask for a copy of any signed release prior to watching it.  I didn't share it with anyone beyond that either.  No foul occurred in this situation.  Nice deflection attempt though.

You, on the other hand were NOT joking.  You came out from behind the curtain and showed your true self.  

IJMiggs 128 reads
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13 / 53

So was it only one video of one provider you "may have seen" that was being shared?  Because you clearly were denoting more than one when you said "I won't mention any names but the one(s) that I may have seen look like the providers were fully aware and approved of the filming."

You never answered my question.  Are you trying to say that filming an escort and sharing it with others is worse than a dumb joke?

Myhandleismybusiness. 98 reads
posted
14 / 53

you jerked off in the shower where you wouldn't slime your keyboard.

snafu929 20 Reviews 133 reads
posted
15 / 53

I don't think I owe you any explanation of what is shared or talked about in my back-channel conversations.  It is private and it stays private.  I will tell you that I have never shared a video of my own or anyone else's related to anything in this hobby.  Oh, hell, I'll even admit I've never taken a photo or video because I'm afraid of the digital evidence.  BTW, When I see a provider smile or wink at the camera, I know she knows she's being recorded.  It was clear to me that she was well over the age of 18.  I have no issues with it and I trust the cameraman/hobbyist has permission to share.

Good luck on using the "just a joke" thing, just like trying to raw dog every girl is a joke, right??

IJMiggs 120 reads
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16 / 53

“I will tell you that I have never shared a video of my own or anyone else's related to anything in this hobby.  When I see a provider smile or wink at the camera, I know she knows she's being recorded.”

Are you for real?  You do realize how creepy the above quote sounds, right?  It sounds like you have videos of your own filming escorts?  I’m not surprised.  It’s time to shut your mouth and stop being a creep show .  Even if you or your loner buddy got consent to film a girl having sex on camera for money, why would you share that with others?  More disturbingly, why would you admit to it on a very public forum for thousands to read?  Fucking weirdo!!

vorlon 119 Reviews 93 reads
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17 / 53

The reason you catch so much flak is because you keep saying the same crap.  This is, after all, a public discussion board and that means you accept the possibility that people will voice their disagreements with you.  These days, no one is more disagreeable than you.  As long as you have been around, I'd think you'd have learned from your mistakes.  That you haven't suggests you are unwilling and/or unable to.  Instead you'd rather lash out with the same juvenile insults you regularly use.  Perhaps you think if you repeat your BS often enough, people will start to believe it.  Not bloody likely.

Yes, the board is fairly peaceful these days.  You're just upset because some people have said some things that were not complimentary towards your MNE providers.  You claim to be very much in the know about them.  So, maybe instead of just shilling for them you could provide actual useful information to help those who want to see these providers actually get responses from the schedulers.  Just telling people to keep trying in the face of all those who kept trying for who knows how long without any response is not helpful.

Then again, there was that one incident where TERAdmin slapped you down a few weeks ago.

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-- Modified on 6/23/2022 4:49:48 AM

vorlon 119 Reviews 88 reads
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18 / 53

What you said was no joke.  You said you were looking for black girls without a high school diploma (link to thread below).  You were called on that crap 6 months ago when you made that post because that is a group more likely to be underage and/or pimped.  Now, all of a sudden, 6 months later, you were just joking.  Don't expect us to believe that BS.

paigesavage See my TER Reviews 108 reads
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19 / 53

not defending the other party of this ongoing argument I do want to be clear that a client sharing intimate videos *without* explicit and documented permission from the other party (provider) is a violation of Minnesota state law (Minn. Stat. § 617.261.) and depending on the circumstances can either be a misdemeanor or a felony in the state of MN.  

 
The provider consented to being filmed by their client for the client's own personal collection. Unless that provider gave documented and explicit written and/or (again documented) verbal permission to the client to share the video, the client who sent you the video has just committed a crime. Never assume the client had permission to share. In addition, if the provider could prove one or a few things from below, it could be elevated to a felony. I know many think it's harmless but it's not harmless - it's a violation of trust, bold as brass ethically, and makes the person sharing (& the people agreeing to receive it) quite the knave. This is why if allowed, providers should take all photos/ film all videos on their own devices.  

 
Providers: if you do custom videos for your content site OR if you allow in person filming (film it on your equipment/device) during the editing process embed a digital watermark. It's virtually undetectable to the human eye and unremovable even if there is compressing, cropping, scaling, or screenshotting/recording. In the case of a content leak, you can trace it back to the source. It's what I do and it has been incredibly useful.  

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State of Minnesota
Minn. Stat. § 617.261.
Nonconsensual dissemination of private sexual images.  

 
First or Aggravated Offense: Misdemeanor. First offense is felony if causes financial loss, intent to profit, intent to harass, posted to porn site, other factors. Also, conviction for nonconsensual dissemination of private sexual images qualifies as a prior “qualified domestic violence-related offense” that enhances penalties for convictions for domestic assault, 4th & 5th degree assault, stalking, and violation of a harassment restraining order

IJMiggs 92 reads
posted
22 / 53

Donald Trump made the high school diploma joke during his first campaign when running for president talking about the poorly educated.

joebush123 25 Reviews 93 reads
posted
23 / 53

Na man, that was not a joke. You are just playing off as one now that everyone here is calling out your predatory behavior.  

Just own it. What do you have to be worried about. No one on here can do or say anything about it. Just admit to being the person we all know you to be.

3302667 24 Reviews 108 reads
posted
24 / 53

Because poorly educated and asking specifically for young black women (girls in your case) without high school diplomas are the same joke?

SammiStoneMPLS See my TER Reviews 87 reads
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25 / 53

We read the boards… It’s not wanting to deal with the negative and incoherent attacks and rants that many providers experience for chiming in. At least that’s my reason for rarely participating, This board does keep you updated on what’s going on locally and that’s what I use it tor… other than that it’s pretty garbage these days…

vorlon 119 Reviews 87 reads
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26 / 53

This is just the excuse you have come up with because 6 months later it has finally dawned on you that people aren't going to forget what you said.

IJMiggs 112 reads
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27 / 53

Snafu’s definition of consent in his words is “when I see a provider smile or wink at the camera, I know she knows she's being recorded.”  

snafu929 20 Reviews 92 reads
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28 / 53

I always like to thank the ladies for chiming in, I wish there were more that do.  I get not wanting to be attacked or impugned though and the best way to avoid it is to just observe without being part of the conversation.  I hope you stick around and take part!

IJMiggs 110 reads
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29 / 53

But you are correct that the forum is pretty garbage these days based on a few sad lonely John’s just looking to stir up trouble attacking people.

IJMiggs 123 reads
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31 / 53

You mentioned the MN statute(Snafu, that is Minn. Stat. § 617.261).  Hypothetically, if you had a verified client who found some way to discretely film you during session with their cell phone for example, shared with others, and you found out, how would you proceed?  Call an attorney, admit that you are an escort, and threaten to sue?  I think not to protect yourself.  Curious what your opinion is about it.

snafu929 20 Reviews 95 reads
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32 / 53

You think you've really got something to sink your teeth into and deflect from your own issues.  As clearly stated, I don't ever record anything, never have and never will so the idea of me sharing it isn't even possible.  One of many reasons is that I'm never really sure if it's possible to eliminate the digital information.  I would consider it a liability not worth having, even if I had a notorized and recorded release from filming Jenna Jameson herself going down on jr.  

IJMiggs 111 reads
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33 / 53
paigesavage See my TER Reviews 101 reads
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34 / 53

to be fair, and this isn't me being rude, the question comes off not as genuinely curious but more so an attempt to nonchalantly flex some perceived form of "client power". In any case, I would reach out to my uber SWer friendly attorney first  (which most attorneys do not care) to understand what they think the best course of action is and then proceed down that course. Most people do not report out of shame and embarrassment. I'm out to my family and friends - I'm not worried about them knowing. Plus, I know escorts and content creators in other states who have had major content leaks and/or were filmed without their knowledge, pursued legal action, and won.

IJMiggs 108 reads
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35 / 53

Not sure why you would say it’s a “client power flex” for me to ask this as you call it.  I have clearly expressed how disgusting and illegal the behavior is.  Since you posted the statue about it and know the law, just curious how you would deal with it being the nature of the profession.

Disclaimer for ladies seeing Snafu:  Be sure not to smile or wink during the session.  “When I see a provider smile or wink at the camera, I know she knows she's being recorded.”

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 85 reads
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36 / 53

Admission of escorting is a non-issue.  The only witness would be the defendant and why would he admit hiring a prostitute and likewise face prosecution.  There would be no reason for either side to bring it up.  It would just proceed on the illegal filming of a presumed intimate encounter.

IJMiggs 89 reads
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37 / 53

I agree with everything you say.  My post was to give advice/warning to those who might get filmed by Snafu or those he trades with.

“When I see a provider smile or wink at the camera, I know she knows she's being recorded.”  

Squatman 126 reads
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38 / 53

Firstly, Snafu didn't mention recording anyone. He just commented about a video someone else took. You've been commenting as if Snafu himself took the video. The person who took the video also said it was mutually agreed and not some kind of hidden agenda you are trying to make it out to be. You will be surprised how many girls are open to doing videos these days with the proliferation of OFs.

Now, to focus on the real issue. There is a screenshot below of you commenting about looking for girls without high school degrees (minors??) and low income backgrounds. This should be a real concern. Responding 'it was a joke' should not be an excuse. Would you accept that response from 'Snafu or those he trades with'.

3302667 24 Reviews 106 reads
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39 / 53

Watch out. Someone might reply to you with a random YouTube link

IJMiggs 143 reads
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40 / 53

They have not spoken up about sending Snafu the video.  Even if they agreed to be filmed, why is is being shared/traded amongst Snafu, his other loner buddy, and God knows how many other thousands of people at this point!

Ladies in the Brainerd area and 50 miles around, you might want to completely cover your face with a mask during a session, not smile,  not wink, and hope you don’t run into Snafu the Snuf film guru.  You could very easily end up on one of the Tube websites one day.

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Squatman 73 reads
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IJMiggs 161 reads
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Can you share with us that statement?  Snafu said “when I see a provider smile or wink at the camera, I know she knows she's being recorded.”  That is different than what you are implying.

IJMiggs 90 reads
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44 / 53

Mods, can you please ban these type of troll posts?

vorlon 119 Reviews 94 reads
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45 / 53

You are the one who said you were looking for black girls without high school diplomas.  People should remember that.

IJMiggs 101 reads
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46 / 53

Then presidential candidate Donald Trump made the high school diploma joke during his first campaign when running for president talking about the poorly educated.  Oh yeah, he barebacks escorts(Stormy Daniels) too so I guess we have that in common.

vorlon 119 Reviews 106 reads
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47 / 53

And your claiming it is one is nothing but a pathetic it took you 6 months to come up with and that we don't believe.

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Squatman 93 reads
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48 / 53

Give up Mr Miggs, we know your true intentions with that post.  

DT has denied barebacking SD or any of the other 40 plus women accusing him of it. So no, you guys are not  the same and have nothing in common. You are the only idiot that would admit BB'ing an escort, and post about looking for poorly educated high school girls from a minority community.

IJMiggs 153 reads
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49 / 53

Do you expect a reason behind every post?  Go join a cribbage club you old loner.

-- Modified on 7/11/2022 12:50:10 AM

vorlon 119 Reviews 126 reads
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50 / 53

Or more accurately how much you wish others would forget your stated interest in black girls without high school diplomas.  6 months is how long it took you to first try and pass it off as a joke..  The only question now is how long you will try to keep pushing that absurdity.

IJMiggs 126 reads
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51 / 53

Being that you and Snafu are so close, I assume you were one of the “Snafu trade partners” that swapped videos of escorts being filmed having sex on camera and shared without their consent.  

OldRanger 62 Reviews 81 reads
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52 / 53

Now you are not only “ White Knighting” another monger you are exchanging pictures with him. Your are a bad bad boy!  LOL
What will the next stretch be?

vorlon 119 Reviews 88 reads
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53 / 53

Who can say?  Perhaps I shall be accused of hacking into his TER account and being the one who made that original post last December.

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