I just read the last review Tia had.I sure hope that this is not what people think is the way to treat another person.I dont know Tia but feel bad that someone would treat anyone this way. I hope this guy is from out of town and never comes back.I believe this person has crossed the line.This sounds more like rape.I hope Tia is ok.
I totally agree with you on this. I do not have any issues with living out your fetishes or fantasies as long as BOTH parties are in agreement and comfortable with it.
This JERK stepped way over the line and is in very much needof as attitude adjustment.
This Guy( using this very loosely)gives the rest of us hobbyist a very bad name. I don't know what planet this guy is from but, I certainly hope the ladies blackball him on the back channel and he NEVER comes back here!
I sent this Jerk a PM, doubt if he will be able to read it since he probably is too cheap to pony up for a VIP membership.
-- Modified on 2/21/2005 6:29:23 AM
I think this guy did step over the line. I'm sorry it happend to her.
I know I am last in line, but just had time to go through the thread. It really hurt me for Tia just to read the review, I agree with LittleSue. MDL, thanks for doing the legwork and the rest of you sweethearts for posting to Tia, I wish her nothing but the "nice guys" from now on- J.
This guy is way out of line. He needs to be looking in the S&M world for his pleasures. I apologize to Tia on behalf of the other 99% of us who treat women with respect.
Couldn't agree more. I was shocked when I saw this review. Particularly disturbing was the comment about taking "pleasure in showing a newbie the ropes". She didn't seem like a willing participant. My apologies as well to Tia. Maybe some of us normal guys should see her and apologize in person.
I must say that I was very shocked when I read the review. Sorry to hear there are guys like that around.....we sure don't need this kinda thing here, What happened to the Minnesota nice.........like most of the guys are!!
-- Modified on 10/6/2005 9:21:04 AM
Couldn't agree more. I was shocked when I saw this review. Particularly disturbing was the comment about taking "pleasure in showing a newbie the ropes". She didn't seem like a willing participant. My apologies as well to Tia. Maybe some of us normal guys should see her and apologize in person.
after reading the review i came to this conclusion...this guy watches way to many movies or something. this is the reason why so many providers want references.
I add my thoughts for Tia as well. Maybe the review was embellished like so many are, but still it is not acceptable to treat women like they are just a piece of meat. Maybe our reviews somestimes suggests that they are, but that is the farthest from the truth. They are precious people who make themselves available to us for intimate encounters. They should be treated with respect.
~~~~~~~cme
-- Modified on 2/21/2005 1:32:30 PM
I think everybody should PM this jerk and express thier dissatifaction about how he treated our local girl (Tia). He should be ashame of being human. He had only two reviews on two ladies. One in San Fancisco and performed the same act.
This guy is a piece of work. Apparently he did this in San Francico as well. I also hope this guy is from out of town and never comes back.
Well DLJ did respond to my PM a couple of times. each PM he sent, I got a better feel for him and looks like some over embelishing on the review. IN my opinion I still did not the tone of his session. I suggested that he should really watch the tone and what he says in his reviews. These ladies are people too. He mentioned he informed Tia fully about the session in both an email and at the begining of the session.
Even if he did that, after talking with her this morning, she did not fully understand what he really wanted. There was some mis-communication about the level of oral service. but that was over come. I am not on to condone anyone sexual desires or fantasies, lets just make sure that both parties are on the same page.
If this guy wants to continue a "forced" session like this, he need to make it crystal clear what he wants so a provider knows prior to going into the session.
Tia is alright a bit shook up from it and learned a lesson the hard way one from lack of not wanting to communicate in the email regarding the session, and also not clarificing what his desires and wants were so she understood them. I would have used her email and spelled out the sesion fully to her to see if she had any interest in this area.
DJ has offered an apoligy to Tia and let me know it was NOT his intention to hurt her or rape her. He was just trying to act out a fantsy roleplay and thought he had a willing partner.
This is a good lesson for all of us to be very careful if we want to explore something outside the standard service menu. make sure both people are on the same page.
DJ has further assured me that he will be significantly more careful in his hobby and more considerate of the lady.
Bottom line, point was made, he was made aware of his issues, DJ has giving good indications that he will make sure does not happen again.
My opinion...Case closed!
-- Modified on 2/21/2005 3:24:51 PM
Why couldn't he see that no matter what he thought would happen beforehand that Tia was genuinely upset with what was going on? Just because she didn't flat out refuse to continue doesn't mean he is excused from all responsibility for being aware of her distress. One time, I had a session go south on me in the middle of all the action. It took me a little bit of time to figure it out but when I did I flat out stopped. Why didn't he do the same?
Obviously I don't know exactly in what form the apology he made to Tia was or what her reaction to it was but I'm still very disturbed by all this. There are providers who clearly provide S&M; this fellow should stick to those advertise as such.
"My opinion...Case closed!"
IMO this behavior is wrong. It is always wrong. No amount of apology is going to cover the wrongness of this person's action. This guy's other review makes it clear that he wants to inflict pain on women. That is wrong. Makes me wonder how he acts in his civie life.
Sorry Tia that this happened to you. There are so many of us out here who fully respect the providers we see and would never intentionally hurt any of you and I hope that you understand that and dont think of everyone in this hobby that way.
SC
I hope this guy dont own a dog.