Question for all.  I have been a long time lurker on the board, started at big doggie then moved to here.  I would love to have my first experience with Lisa or Madison but obviously, I have no references.  So any ideas?  Other providers that would be recommended and take first timers.  Thanks

I would suggest Menaje......She is a very nice lady and has a smoking body.

My experience with her (or to be more precise lack thereof) has been different. Based on positive reviews, I have contacted her several times. In each instance, I have been blown off - e.g. appointment set but no response to phone calls at the appointment time; hung up on etc. If he receives the same discourteous treatment I did, as a 1st timer I would think it would sour him on the hobby in a hurry.

My experience with her on several occasions has been totally positive. I'm sure at times she may be cautious. YMMV

My experience with Menaje was IDENTICAL, and a while back, two others have posted the same result too.  Not sure what that's all about.

So, guys - other recomendations then.  I feel caught in a catch 22.  Want to see a quality provider but I need reference and can't get one with a quality escort.  Help

At one point we were all in the same boat and you do have to start somewhere. I think things may have tightened up a bit in recent months, however.... If you look back through this board you will see many postings on suggestions for first timers. I think there is even a board for first timers or newbies. While I can not adivse of which provider to see and wouldn't dream of speaking for them and thier security policies, there are some steps you can take.  

Some providers will see you without a reference from other providers, but you have to also provide them with a sense of security that you are not a wacko and (or) LE!! Some will ask for a work phone number so they can contact your front desk and ask for you. Some will ask for a plane ticket or boarding stub and to see your DL.

For my first local experince,I contacted the provider I wanted to see via e-mail, tried to set the appointment up in advance and I also new I wanted a multi hour appointment. We exchanged e-mails and then went through a screening process for her to verify me. You have to trust they will be discrete - wich is a small price to pay considering what they are trusting you with (thier well being and in some cases thier livelyhood!!)  If you don't want to go through the screening process - then you will probably have a very hard time seeing anyone.

If none of this is acceptable to you and if the process isn't acceptable to the provider you would like to see, then you are probably going to have to see a different provider who's requirements do not include references from a local provider.

Good luck !!!

I'm just adding this because it might be one of the problems. Never ask about services. Simply go by well reviewed providers. If you ask to many questions, a provider may think you are LE. That is what the reviews are there for. Just some food for thought.