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So, I just read a review where the hobbiest stated, she asked me not to write a review. I know the provider she is a wonderful person. This is something I could not do. However I would write a review if I were threatened or not what her add stated.

... and reported it. Response was, nothing we can do about it.  

Based on the review, I think I know why the provider asked that there not be a review.  

When a provider asks that there be no review, I think her wishes should be respected except in the case where something happened that other hobbyists need to know about e.g. use of fake photos or a scam.



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They are not going to do anything to discourage people from writing them except in cases where personal information is revealed or where the provider is delisted, which is the recourse a provider who does not want reviews has to make sure they don't happen.

Typically, I do not like reviews.  
So, if a gentleman asks to review me, I ask in return if they would mind waiting till after they see me one or more times before making a decision/comment/review on me.  
If someone wants to write a review, they have every right to do so.  
The lady also has every right to not see the gentleman again if she asked him not to write the review.  

If someone sees me and reviews me after only seeing me once, I will never see them again (that's my personal policy).
Maybe the provider you mention (a wonderful person) should put the hobbiest on her personal DNS list. That is what I would do.  

It goes back to the boundary thing.  
I wouldn't repeat with someone that crossed my boundaries.

Hmmmmmm,
SG

Looks like this guy is a newbie. Perhaps he is trying to get several reviews posted so he fells established (easier for him to get verified?).
As long as he really didn't have anything to add to the picture, as he states, he should have agreed not to review.
I usually review if the provider wants/needs a review, or if the provider is something special. I would also review someone who was especially poor or dishonest, thankfully I have not had any of those since joining TER
Sam you are so DAMN hot, I am surprised that you have that policy. Glad I didn't break your rule :-

...for the appointment. Then he can decide whether to see her or not. Some Hobbyists want to review providers to enhance their review tally. It's not clear when that was communicated to him but her ad boasts that she has 5 pages of reviews, so why wouldn't he think he could see her and review her as well? She has an active profile with lots of reviews and several recent reviews, I would read that as she is a reviewable provider. He didn't cross the line at all.

Here is the review as a courtesy to others:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showReview.asp?Review=1437128

...by looking at how many reviews she has over a five-year period.  A review policy can change over time.  The last review was 3-4 months ago; only one review before today in the past 6-7 months.  I wouldn't call that "several recent reviews".  In fact, I'd call it 1 recent review, at best.

IMO the line was crossed when the provider asked him to not write a review, and he wrote one anyway with no reason other than his own benefit.  If a hobbyist needs to write a review (for TER days or whatever reason), the gentlemanly thing to do is to ask if that's OK.

...and I see reading for comprehension is a challenge for you! Did she tell him her review policy when the appointment was made? She should have if it was at all important to her. It obviously wasn't. You don't know how the conversation went down...(he) "Do you mind if I write a review about you?" (her) "No, really, you don't have to." Which really could mean that she's flattered but doesn't want him to think that he has to.  
How do you know that he wrote it for no reason other than his own benefit? ............? ...............?
Could he have written it so that she could have a recent review who's only purpose was to satisfy your narrow minded opinion of what constitutes a recent review? Should we always check in with you first before we even use that phrase in our normal board posts? Why are you so consistently anal?

                               Relax....Relax....you know the rest...  :D :D

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No, I don't know what the conversation was between the client and provider re reviews... and neither do you, sir.

How do I know that he wrote the review only for his own benefit?  Pretty simple... because he didn't write it for HER benefit.  He stated that she didn't want him to write a review... thus she didn't want/need a review.  Thus she didn't see any benefit to herself in the guy writing the review.  And the review didn't shed any new light on this provider that isn't already covered in other reviews, so it's of no benefit to other hobbyists.

It's hilarious, though... you're telling ME to relax, and you're the one using FUCK and "?!!" and insulting me on my reading comprehension and my narrow-mindedness and my anal retentiveness, just because I disagree with you.

Yep, I don't happen to think 6-7 months ago constitutes a "recent" review.  So sue me for having the gall to define "recent" differently than you do.  :-)

I can't agree here at all.  

I believe review desires are just another personal desire that needs to be respected.    I have seen cases where a provider who had numerous reviews (all of them VERY good I might ad) did not want a review at the time.  I have seen one with a few great reviews say she didn't want any anymore.  I have also seen where they really want and even have almost solicited a review.  

In my experience there are good reasons for review desires and a number of good reasons for someone to permanently or temporarily want no reviews.    

I always try to ask but sometimes forget.  When I forget I generally have not written one.

A reviewer should be able to post what he thinks is an honest review any time he sees a lady. This is one of TER's main benefits and how I "screen" the people I want to attempt seeing.

As long as the review is honest and meets the TER guidelines, a reviewer should NOT be punished for submitting.  

However, ladies are going to see, or not see, anyone for any reason. Taking that into consideration, If you want to repeat, it's only smart to refrain from reviewing if the provider asks you to do so.

While reviews are an important way for us to learn, providers AND reviewers seem to take them WAY too seriously. Everyone has an opinion. I usually read them all and disregard the real bad ones and the real good ones and go with the most common comments.

Just my .02

I wanted to see her and thought she was gone based upon no recent reviews. Now I know she is active. It may bring her more business as a result. Not following a provider's request is a no-no.  

We earn our stripes by providing reviews, so what's a boy to do? How about not holding a lack of reviews against us ladies?

... or Drumsticks will come after you with both guns blazing and insult the crap out of you because you don't define "recent" the same way he does.

What's a boy to do?... as you said, one thing a boy's to do is to respect the request of a provider who asks for no review, unless there was something wrong that demands a report.  There's lots of providers who are fine with reviews... we can "earn our stripes" with them if need be.

Most girls that don't want reviews on them usually just stick with regulars and don't want a bunch of new guys. Also I tend to leave a lot of stuff out of my reviews. There are alot of reviews out there that are either wrong or YMMV and the guy goes in there expecting the best and is disapointed when the best doesn't happen. Then the girl gets pissed that the guys try to cross there boundaries. I have not reviewed a few girls because they don't have any or are totally under the radar.
 Plus I don't understand why guys say that this girl is so amazing that he wants to keep her to himself and shouldn't write a review, but he does anyways. When you do that she becomes that more popular and then raises her prices (has happened alot this year). If you find a diamond in the rough like I have keep her to yourself or it will be that much more difficult to see her in the future.
 But yah it is nice to know that a girl who hasn't had a review for awhile then gets one recent, you know is still around to see.

If she has a recent ad that's a good sign she's still available otherwise it's pretty much fair game despite her request. if she doesn't want reviews, then delist.

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Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but the reviewer says she didn't really want the review. Did she say she didn't really want the review, but go ahead if you want, or was it "please don't post a review, I really hate having them out there."  

In my case, I always skip positive reviews if the lady doesn't want them. I never skip negative reviews if the lady doesn't want them - sorry, but that's kind of the point of reviews. I've also had ladies that don't really like reviews give me permission. Some can tell I loved them and have read some of my other reviews so they think having me write one is a good option. I think they understand having a few good ones is a necessary evil and I like to think they trust me to do them justice...just saying, don't damn everyone who reviews a provider you think doesn't want reviews. She may not make the same request to everyone.

He had the right to do as he wished and she has the right to not see him again or give him a WL.  I understand hobbyist can gain from writing reviews and providers may gain or lose from getting them.  She could have told him in advance not to write one, I don't know.  

However, I look at it this way: I gain points on P411 when I give an OK yet I have been asked once to not give one with little reason why and that's fine.  Even though I could have gained a few points if I had ignored his request, I valued him and his repeat visits more.  

Maybe she doesn't want any reviews now for safety reasons ... maybe she doesn't want many new clients ... maybe she is being watched and she knows this.

Personally I think he screwed himself.  She may not see him again and I'm sure many providers who read that she asked him not to yet he did it anyway, possibly won't want to see him either

I always ask if they want a review. If the provider is respectable to me, I will respect them. But if I receive horrible service, I will post a review no matter what so other clients know what to expect.
I can understand why some women do not want a review but some of us clients use reviews to have an "idea" of what to expect.

I have had the same conversation with her and she really means no, she's just a little submissive and try's to be too nice about it. She has indicated that she wishes she could get out of the hobby or at least stay on the therapeutic side. If someone says they really wouldn't like something, just don't do it.

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