Read OP twice nowhere in it does it state that just because he is a member that he deserves a discount.
Not everyone has deep pockets and price does play a role in who a person will see and with so many women to see I myself have taken advantage of the discount to see if I like a lady or not.
If it is that big of a cash cow for P411 it’s a mute point anyway. It will never happen.
It also seems to me at times some of the provider’s use the old mark it up so we can mark it down strategy
If you are a member of Preferred411, you will notice that several providers in a geographic market will elect to list themselves as a "Top Listing" in order to vault their profile to the front of the search listings for that market.
I am assuming that providers pay some form of nominal fee for this service. Therefore, providers must feel that a select position within search results is valuable.
Note: Prior to the offering of a "Top Listing" option, the order of listings that would return for a particular market was dictated by how recent a provider had logged-in to the site.
As a discussion point, I would like to see Preferred411 modify their listing returns. Instead of offering a premier slot for a "Top Listing," wouldn't it benefit the hobbyist community for the search results to return a listing of providers offering a "Preferred411 Discount."
The vast majority of providers on Preferred411 do not offer a discount for members of the site. The encouragement of a discount via an enhanced listing position might entice more providers to offer a discount to members of the site. In turn, a discount realizable to members of the site would encourage loyalty to the service for existing members and a selling point to potential new client members.
I just thought about it within the last half-hour. I was not counting on many responses from providers. (Perhaps) if the utility of the idea was affirmed by other hobbyists on this discussion board, then Gina might be more inclined to examine the practicality of the thought. Therefore, (yes) I am looking for a discussion among hobbyists on this board.
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it is all about marketing..some providers use the "Top Listing " feature..others could care less..discounts are offered to TER members by some..others are newbie friendly..i might take awhile to research your choices..but all the info is there..
I am assuming that providers pay some form of nominal fee for this service. Therefore, providers must feel that a select position within search results is valuable.
Note: Prior to the offering of a "Top Listing" option, the order of listings that would return for a particular market was dictated by how recent a provider had logged-in to the site.
As a discussion point, I would like to see Preferred411 modify their listing returns. Instead of offering a premier slot for a "Top Listing," wouldn't it benefit the hobbyist community for the search results to return a listing of providers offering a "Preferred411 Discount."
The vast majority of providers on Preferred411 do not offer a discount for members of the site. The encouragement of a discount via an enhanced listing position might entice more providers to offer a discount to members of the site. In turn, a discount realizable to members of the site would encourage loyalty to the service for existing members and a selling point to potential new client members.
Of course, all of the information is available on the site.
I am simply offering the idea that the providers that do offer discounts to members of the site be rewarded with a preferential listing return for their recognition of how the site can lower their screening costs.
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i doubt it..Gina knows her business a lot better than we do..
I am simply offering the idea that the providers that do offer discounts to members of the site be rewarded with a preferential listing return for their recognition of how the site can lower their screening costs.
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In the current listings for the city of Minneapolis, ten providers out of a total of 115 listings are confirmed as a "Top Listing."
Of these ten listings, only three of the providers offer some measure of a discount to members of the site.
Yes, perhaps you are correct that Gina has determined that the fees she receives from providers for a top listing are greater than any possible loyalty that may accrue to members from a site-specific discount or that may lead to an increase in gentlemen paying annual fees for membership.
However, businesses (such as American Express) have long-ago realized that membership (should) have its privileges (or benefits) not available to the average consumer.
The ease I have setting things up with some of the best ladies in Mn. A little discount might nice but wouldn't be a factor in wether I want to meet someone or not.
If a provider does offer a discount to members, and it clearly states that on our website or p411 profile, we get a one time credit of "points" (dollars) to our account. I can't remember the exact amount, either 30 or 40. It is up to each individual provider to decide if they want to discount their services to members. ( I offer a discount when someone books two hours or more) I think the site is promoted to be a Screening site, not a "Get a discount because you're a member site" . I think p411 promotes the main reason for joining is for EASE of screening.
Perfect example of easy screening; the other day someone called me around 3pm and asked about the possibility of an appointment that afternoon or evening, as their other play plans had fallen through. They said there were a p411 member, I said, GREAT, send me the appointment request form and we will be all set. 5 minutes later, we had a time set. The convenience of fast screening was superlative in that case. And that happens ALOT.
Regarding "Top Listings", there are only 10 "top listing" spots and we have to pay for that spot. It gets you on the first page, first noticed.
But to have a regular profile on there is free.
P411 is a great asset to this hobby
I really like offering this discount for p411 members with "ok's"
It saves me when I don't have to screen extensively, passing that on is only fair IMO.
I like the ideal.
Question my membership is about to expire if I don’t renew it can providers still access my profile?
Contrary to the OP's totally incorrect assumption, top listing does NOT cost a "nominal fee" . It's actually $350/month and there is usually a waiting list. Ladies already receive an incentive of points from P411 if we offer a discount to P411 members. Being a member of P411 doesn't entitle gents to a discount. Your membership is its own reward: access to reputable, quality ladies. The OP's post/attitude of entitlement irritates me. LOL
Read OP twice nowhere in it does it state that just because he is a member that he deserves a discount.
Not everyone has deep pockets and price does play a role in who a person will see and with so many women to see I myself have taken advantage of the discount to see if I like a lady or not.
If it is that big of a cash cow for P411 it’s a mute point anyway. It will never happen.
It also seems to me at times some of the provider’s use the old mark it up so we can mark it down strategy
I read it just fine the first time. This sentence was the catalyst for my post:
"The encouragement of a discount via an enhanced listing position might entice more providers to offer a discount to members of the site. In turn, a discount realizable to members of the site would encourage loyalty to the service for existing members and a selling point to potential new client members."
That certainly sounds to me like someone feeling they're entitled to a discount. Considering the fact that my previous post got multiple "likes", I'm not the only one who sees it that way. I've made my point & I'll not comment further.
It also seems to me at times some of the provider’s use the old mark it up so we can mark it down strategy.
I don't think the rule applies to an occasional special a provider might offer so it never hurts to check the lady's web site.
You are correct. The points providers receive are for a "true" p411 discount. It is much easier for me to verify a p411 client with recent ok's than a newbie, or a potential client who's references are older than 6 months or so. I have no problem offering a discount for this. Yes, membership does have benefits to clients as well but of course each lady can choose whether or not she'd like to offer a discount for simpler verification.
Peace,
Astrid
It also seems to me at times some of the provider’s use the old mark it up so we can mark it down strategy.
If you are suggesting providers are allowed to list a higher donation in P411 so they can 'discount' it down to their normal rate, that is incorrect. Gina has a firm policy that the price on P411 must be no higher than the price listed anywhere else. She responds promptly if you point out that her rule has been violated. The listing goes dead until the problem is corrected.
I don't think the rule applies to an occasional special a provider might offer so it never hurts to check the lady's web site.
I'm confused because your p411profile links into a website with a 350 hour rate. P411 profile list 400 but there is a 50 discount. Doesn't seem like a discount for p411 member.
Peace,
Astrid
It also seems to me at times some of the provider’s use the old mark it up so we can mark it down strategy.
If you are suggesting providers are allowed to list a higher donation in P411 so they can 'discount' it down to their normal rate, that is incorrect. Gina has a firm policy that the price on P411 must be no higher than the price listed anywhere else. She responds promptly if you point out that her rule has been violated. The listing goes dead until the problem is corrected.
I don't think the rule applies to an occasional special a provider might offer so it never hurts to check the lady's web site.
Really?
Cause I'm looking at her site right now and toggled to her P411 ad and her one hour incall rates are the listed the same with a $50 discount for P411 members on the P411 ad ,,, meaning it is a true discount..
I think you need to clean your glasses .. you're not seeing clearly
Lets keep the attempts to discredit lovely ladies to a minimum shall we ?
She corrected it. I know what I saw and don't make shit up. I have no reason to discredit her!!!.
Cause I'm looking at her site right now and toggled to her P411 ad and her one hour incall rates are the listed the same with a $50 discount for P411 members on the P411 ad ,,, meaning it is a true discount..
I think you need to clean your glasses .. you're not seeing clearly
Lets keep the attempts to discredit lovely ladies to a minimum shall we ?
Astrid changed her rates after her deception was pointed out!
Her standard incall rate was listed as $350 for an hour on her website.
Her standard incall rate on P411 was listed as $400 for an hour with a discount of $50 for a net rate of $350.
In other words, a very, very fake discount. There was noting "true" about that deception.
You can talk to Astrid yourself if you want, if she has any credibility or character she will admit that she edited her rate on her website from $350 to $400 creating a "true" discount after her own deception and hypocrisy was pointed out to her
It also seems to me at times some of the provider’s use the old mark it up so we can mark it down strategy.
If you are suggesting providers are allowed to list a higher donation in P411 so they can 'discount' it down to their normal rate, that is incorrect. Gina has a firm policy that the price on P411 must be no higher than the price listed anywhere else. She responds promptly if you point out that her rule has been violated. The listing goes dead until the problem is corrected.
I don't think the rule applies to an occasional special a provider might offer so it never hurts to check the lady's web site.
I wasn’t saying that it was rampant problem in past I have seen one price listed one place and another price somewhere else. Yes there could be multiple reasons for it old add, forgotten add so on and so forth. I realize that. But there has been times were I have to scratch my head and question it.
But to get back to thread if the lady’s want to offer a P411 discount and as Astrid pointed out it is a time saver for her time is money in turn it encourages membership encourages the use of the P411 dating system but not to pressure them to offer discounts there is other options P411 could highlight the fact that there is a discount offered on the face of the ads in some way it would not have to give top billing for offering discounts.
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Maybe it should have been specified there is a "top ten placement" a "top listing" AND a "featured ad"
A "featured" or "top ten listing" does NOT cost $350.00. Not in Minnesota, anyway.
I thought the OP sounded as if he was suggestive and encouraging rather than entitled. And, yes everyone can see the "likes" on your post so it probably didn't need to be pointed out. Rather like when you're good at something, you don't need to tell people since it may sound arrogant. If you're good at something, people already know.
Peace,
Astri
He had an idea and threw it out for discussion; this is a discussion board after all. It is also a good way to learn about things you know little or nothing about.
Fair enough, but in this case it wouldn't have taken the OP much effort to find out how gift points can be used to buy Top Listing status - just clicking on 'Gift Points' would likely have been sufficient.
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Pauper