Re: What the hell ... ... is a Christian swing club???
Yes, I and a minister co-founded decades ago and the Phoenix couples group had 350 members. I have been a Lifestyles convention speaker "Swinging Christians not a biblical conflict" a few times long ago and filled rooms. They sold tapes of it and an interview with me but not sure still do. I can't give you the huge website here but googling the right words should find it and even though I haven't updated it in years it still gets lots of traffic. Further, "common prostitutes" were often mentioned in the Bible with no negative inference - only the goddess worshiping ones since the issue was idolatry not sex. Men could have as many wives and concubines as they could afford. Adultery was a property right issue of the husband not a sex issue.
You know how art students will draw a nude figure as part of a class? I would pay a group rate just to watch a woman on a sybian who knows how to use it and loves using it. I would even sketch it in charcoal on archival paper.
I saw Mindy give her Sybian a workout. Afterwards she left the room for a moment and I heard it calling me. So I bent down and put my ear up to it. It was whispering "Get me out of here she is going to KILL me" What a sight!!! LOL! bigdell
No Just $1200+. It is more fun to be a partner interacting with the women on Sybian. Was popular at the Christian Swing club I led decades ago and working with the founder/inventor at swing conventions.
There are zillions of porn videos of it if that is your interest.
I was more interested in the interaction as a partner for various women I introduced to it. However, its been a while since had anyone use it.
Re: What the hell ... ... is a Christian swing club???
Yes, I and a minister co-founded decades ago and the Phoenix couples group had 350 members. I have been a Lifestyles convention speaker "Swinging Christians not a biblical conflict" a few times long ago and filled rooms. They sold tapes of it and an interview with me but not sure still do.
I can't give you the huge website here but googling the right words should find it and even though I haven't updated it in years it still gets lots of traffic. Further, "common prostitutes" were often mentioned in the Bible with no negative inference - only the goddess worshiping ones since the issue was idolatry not sex. Men could have as many wives and concubines as they could afford. Adultery was a property right issue of the husband not a sex issue.
Odd as it may sound, I bet Christian swingers were the best ... just the right mix of a desire to be upstanding citizens and have a bit of fun on the side.
Re: What the hell ... Odd as it may sound, I bet Christian swingers were the best ... just the right mix of a desire to be upstanding citizens and have a bit of fun on the side.
However, it is hard to many to get over the lifelong false negative teachings and the guilt issues. My co-founder minister basically was only interested in bible studies we did, but I was more interested in "doing" not just talking about it. Took a very active swinging couple in their 70s to get to the doing part and minister co-founder bowed out.
I still get lots of e-mails from the site although I have somewhat buried e-mail address since I really got tired of the sex counseling as well as fighting the conservative Christians saying we are going to hell, blah, blah, blah. But I understand where they are coming from since I was more like them until I studied both sides of the issues seriously. I was a Billy Graham counselor when lived in Minneapolis area (BG headquarters) and active in conservative groups, a deacon in a traditional church etc.
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