That was alot of extra words to get to truth of matter. But spot on . Whats next some going to publish 21 rules of seeing a hooker.
I have been in the hobby for six years and I am scheduled to have my first doubles meeting! I want to make sure I handle this corectly. My questions are about protocol regarding rates. Provider 1, I have seen multiple times and her 90 minute rate with tip is less than Provider 2 who I have seen only once before. I enjoyed my previous meetings and wish to continue. Question 1, is it appropriate to have separate envelopes labeled, each with a different amount, or not? And if not, what is the correct protocol?
Question 2, Provider 1 is hosting at her place, would this then be considered an outcall rate (which is different) for Provider 2?
Thanks
... used separate envelopes with a first initial on each so the providers can tell them apart. As for outcall rate, I think you should ask Provider 2 about it. Sometimes the visiting provider charged me an outcall fee for travel time, other times she didn't because she lived close by.
Thank you, that was helpful
I've also always used separate envelopes. Even if they have the same rate, you wouldn't want to put both fees in the same envelope.
Man you are thinking way to into this. You give each girl what you usually give them. If you have seen them before your fine. You guys with your envelopes and being by the book. 4 years and maybe used 1 envelope total and you know what - the girls really don't care how they get the money, as long as they get it.
That was alot of extra words to get to truth of matter. But spot on . Whats next some going to publish 21 rules of seeing a hooker.
Not sure why YOU care so much if someone else uses envelopes, since it doesn't matter to you.
"If you have seen them before your (sic) fine." But what if you haven't seen at least one of the providers before? Still no envelopes?
And what if you've always seen them at their incalls but this is an outcall for one of them? Do you still give them what you usually give them? No consideration for whether she might want a little more for outcall?
Maybe some of us put a lot of thought into this, but IMO that's not a bad thing in the interest of getting it right. And no skin off your back if some guys put that thought into it, right?
Put the right amount in the envelope(s) ahead of time and then just set it or them down someplace. She picks it up at her convenience. That's easy and I think it reduces the chance of a bill or two going astray somehow.
Do as you like but clearly based just on the responses here, some providers do prefer getting envelopes.
...and place the donations in separate envelopes, labeled with their names or initials, and leave them in the bathroom or other conspicuous place, such as by the bedside lamp. The ladies can then discreetly check the correct amount if they choose and the session proceeds without worries. Less tacky than counting the money in front of you. But, when I ask to extend a session or want upgraded services after the session has begun, I will place the additional monies without an envelope either on the nightstand or slide it between her butt cheeks if she's lying on her stomach.
You pay each provider her stated rate, with the visiting provider receiving her outcall rate, if applicable. In the case where one provider's rate is more than the other's, I disagree with the idea that you should pay them both the higher rate. If one is $500 and the other is $350, you'd be overpaying by $150 by following that suggestion. I would tip them the same amount if I felt they contributed fairly equally to the experience and their performance was tip worthy. They will likely compare notes on the tip.
You'll likely find that a doubles experience will be more stimulating than you expected so you might wanna bring along extra funds if you find that you wanna keep the party going and extend the session. ![]()
I have used two envelopes. I paid them the same as their rates were very close to each other (the outcall rate in my case did not apply) and gave them each the same tip.
Note too that it was one of my best hobby experiences. Enjoy!
Let's KIS shall we?
Make sure the rate for a double is the rate listed on their Website. There are many providers who have an hourly rate to see one individual and another hourly rate for a double (much like couples).
Separate the money into two envelopes, especially if the women are at two different rates.
Outcall fee - check with that provider.
*And no you're not stupid which is why I took off the last "s" in "kiss". Perfectly reasonable questions*
Jesus Christ Romantic must be only one that has sanity on this.
The envelope deal most likely started about same time the BS of paying for time did. Plausible deniabilty of P4P. At the end of day "your" envelope doesn't stand out from the rest. What's in it just may. You really think its going to be a deal breaker for a repeat if no envelope? Hell no . Just to ad to the romance I want a hand written Thank You note in a sealed envelope when I leave.
You want to get it right . Show up on time , pay my rate , have a good time together , leave on time. That's what probably 90% + of providers give thought to. But hey lets build that list just to get it right.
My personal policy, and the policy of pretty much all the providers I work with, is to compare envelopes and split the money 50/50, regardless. Save a tree, use one envelope, and trust that we'll sort it out amongst ourselves. We're pretty good at counting money.
I also will generally match the other provider's rate when working together (so if she normally charges 300 and I charge 350, I'll lower mine to 300 for that particular session). That's just me, though -- I would not assume the providers in your case have the same practice. Asking them to clarify beforehand is a good idea, but if you can't do that, err on the side of caution and pay both of them the higher rate.
We usually expect what our personal rates are unless its a duo special and if its at one of their incalls I wouldn't expect to pay an outcall fee. Or I wouldn't charge one myself and don't think my friends would either. Separate envelopes with their initials on the front would work best.-Holly
When I wanted a double, I asked my regular provider to set it up. She arranged the other lady (sometimes I would suggest someone, but usually I let her pick since she knows who she enjoys working with), the venue, and I paid her double her incall fee, the hotel room if one was gotten (we liked in-room hot tubs), and a little kicker for setting it up. SHE paid the other provider. She had set up the other provider, she negotiated the rate, so I let her pay it. Never had a problem with it, but this was years ago...
You have seen them before, so it should be OK to ask a question about what rates they are expecting. This would prevent any misunderstanding.
I also think both should be paid the same. Paying one more could really cause problems if they compare notes.
I'm not sure why it's such a sin to deny play for play, & you can't honestly think every single guy can get,
& keep an erection, therefore.....yes, as unbelievable as it sounds to some, it's not always about the specific sexual service/s
Since for some it always will be, exactly that, we can agree to disagree.
Hint: most providers are being cautious w/their terminology, not uppity (duh)
I gotta chime in about the whole "have the provider set it up" concept. We live & learn right...and there are safety issues with this strategy. I always tell people to please contact the 2nd provider too, even though I may talk to her about the visit, it's most likely I don't talk money w/her.
If there's one gal that's getting paid more, I rather not know or think about it, because most often both of us gals are doing an equal amount of ....tantalizing affection.
Last thing: most providers don't respond to suggestive emails from anyone we've never met, so please think
(hope you see this, re-think) the way you might've first worded things!
Thank you so much to all the awesome, considerate, gentleman of Minnesota. ![]()
Actually if I were a provider I would avoid arranging doubles as that is a separate legal risk known as procuring -- which usually has greater legal consequences than just prostitution.