Minnesota

Re: Thanks LeAnn......
MsChayse 2353 reads
posted
1 / 22

The Richfield Public Safety Department's Special Investigation Unit arrested 10 men for engaging in prostitution in a public place during a sting along the Interstate 494 corridor Tuesday.

According to the department's Facebook page, the SIU was assisted by the Bloomington Police Department

MsChayse 1647 reads
posted
2 / 22

Engaging in P4P anywhere outside a private residence is no longer a Misdemeanor. It is a gross misdemeanor in Mn.

rambleon1 199 Reviews 1167 reads
posted
3 / 22

Shocking to see how much effort LE has put into stings this year.

MsChayse 1068 reads
posted
4 / 22

I know the hotel in Fridley you are talking about BM. Folks can PM me for that info. It is a hotel that is in LE's pocket to avoid being shut down.

MsChayse 1021 reads
posted
5 / 22

Posted By: ldm51560
Shocking to see how much effort LE has put into stings this year.
I couldn't agree more. I've been in the biz for 15 years & have NEVER seen anything like what I have seen this past year! Everybody PLEASE play safely!

hibbyhoober 2 Reviews 890 reads
posted
6 / 22

Yeah, I would have thought that they would have spent a lot more time giving out pot to the kids on Niccolet avenue again. Although, then again, school doesn't let out for summer for another week yet. Hey, look on the bright side though, at least they haven't beaten or publicly executed any unarmed citizens recently.

Posted By: ldm51560
Shocking to see how much effort LE has put into stings this year.

vorlon 119 Reviews 922 reads
posted
7 / 22

Mike Freeman decided to go on the warpath last year.

vorlon 119 Reviews 794 reads
posted
8 / 22
MsChayse 782 reads
posted
9 / 22

Posted By: vorlon
It matches exactly one from February.
My apologies. You are right. I subscribe to Google Alerts & this popped up. I should have read it more thoroughly rather than assuming this just happened.  

Now that we're here though I guess it doesn't hurt to take this as a reminder that LE has been more focused on P4P this past year than in previous years. It's not just here either which is one of the reasons I don't do as much touring as I was a year ago. Orange jumpsuits just aren't my style.

Sorry if I set off a panic. I'll be more careful to read through the alerts prior to posting in the future.

Have a safe & hopefully sunny weekend everybody!

DJ1985 21 Reviews 717 reads
posted
10 / 22

Even if this isn't a current story it still serves as a reminder to do your homework and use the big head when seeing someone new. Thanks for the reminder Leann

cineaste 8 Reviews 1046 reads
posted
11 / 22

From what I can tell reading the news reports, these are all pretty simple stings. Hobbyists respond to a fake ad and are lured to a hotel room where agreement of exchanging cash for sex is recorded. Providers are lured to same hotel by fake Johns and caught the same way.  

If this is all that is happening, basic screening or simple precautions would have saved the day. But I am curious whether anyone has seen more sophisticated stings than this.

Also, I read a story in a Plymouth paper that the PD was checking sites like TER to help identify who was operating in their cities, so avoiding specifics in ads and reviews ("western suburbs" instead of "Golden Valley") would probably help, but people mostly seem to do this already.

OmegaZap 7 Reviews 941 reads
posted
12 / 22

Posted By: LeannluvsU
Engaging in P4P anywhere outside a private residence is no longer a Misdemeanor. It is a gross misdemeanor in Mn.
This needs some clarification...  your post says "anywhere outside a private residence" and that is not how I read the statute at all.  There are lots of places that are not private residences that do not constitute doing it in public.  Doing it privately, out of public view, in a hotel room, business, secluded private property, etc., don't appear to me to rise to the gross misdemeanor level.  I think the whole point is that doing it in public creates a whole set of legitimate social objections that go well beyond just the prostitution aspect of it.

oleoneeye 152 Reviews 782 reads
posted
13 / 22

It doesn't matter if you are in a room or not. It also matters where the solicitation occurs.  Lets say you met at a bar where the solicitation occurred, then went to a residence, it would be considered a public place based on where the deal was agreed upon

MsChayse 831 reads
posted
14 / 22

I am in agreement with you oleoneeye. I have seen dozens of reports where arrests were made at hotels resulting from stings & otherwise & they were charged with gross misdemeanors.

Geronimo651 29 Reviews 800 reads
posted
16 / 22

St Paul has targeted specific people on many occasions, and so have a few other cities as evidenced by recent busts.

Not sure they actually qualify as stings so much as just targeted LE activity. One of my ATFs about 4-5 years ago was the target of one of those. They picked up a list and worked that as hard as they could. If you didn't have a hobby phone, you were about to feel the pain.

JatTER 727 reads
posted
17 / 22

I can't speak for all hotels, but I can provide some info regarding this.  Most hotels, including those expensive upper class hotels, don't care as long as you don't cause problems/draw attention to yourself.

MsDynamite See my TER Reviews 744 reads
posted
18 / 22

Not much has changed with how they conduct sting operations,  just the technology they use.
To be honest a hobby phone & a hobby name isn't gonna save you either if they really want to get you.
V.

cineaste 8 Reviews 730 reads
posted
19 / 22

I am having trouble picturing this. What do you mean by picking up a list and working it? They got a list of client contact info from one provider and then tried to catch all the guys on it?

MsDynamite See my TER Reviews 763 reads
posted
20 / 22

It's more like as in simply answering their phone for as long as they can.  
Not so much a hit list I would think they'd do that with an agency rather than an independent.

cineaste 8 Reviews 697 reads
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21 / 22
OmegaZap 7 Reviews 642 reads
posted
22 / 22

Someone needs to take the "public place" definition in MSA 609.321 to the court of appeals.  If appealed, the legal definition would be struck down in minutes.  The legal definition of "public place" appears in many places in MN statutes, and nowhere else is such a nonsensical definition of public place allowed.

Think about it...  If a hotel room really is a public place...  Then it would be absolutely illegal for a married couple to have sex in a hotel room.  It would be illegal for me to change clothes in a hotel room.  It would be a serious felony for me to tell my kids to take a shower while in a hotel room.  It would be illegal for me to drink a beer in my hotel room.  This doesn't pass even a cursory sniff test.

We actually pay these people to do this to us.


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