Gracious gentleman I will continue
You fail to realize the legal economy cannot be compared to the marginal. When it comes to our discussion there is no rationality. An example: If a provider was trying to maximize profit she would always provide either outcall only (hey gas is so cheap and your vehicle expenses are predictable according to your own argument) or the cheapest incall. Most "well reviewed providers" do neither.
My friend I don't care what a provider charges. I do have every right to comment on it.
Regarding your comparison to cab drivers...no comparison again as there is regulation on taxi fare rate. Oh damn! And there are regulations that cab drivers can't decline a fair because they "aren't their type." (AKA no black guys) Try again sir.
Lastly, if that beater cab, unwashed for a week, were to pick me up for a much needed ride I would kindly pay my fair if I could GET OFF where and when I wanted at a reasonable price.
And your thoughts sir?
I will respond, since you also asked.
"You fail to realize the legal economy cannot be compared to the marginal. When it comes to our discussion there is no rationality."
Nope. Legal or not, a profession is a profession and the calculus required to make it economically viable is the same. If a provider is irrational, and I'll allow there have been a few, she doesn't last long.
"If a provider was trying to maximize profit she would always provide either outcall only (hey gas is so cheap and your vehicle expenses are predictable according to your own argument) or the cheapest incall. Most "well reviewed providers" do neither."
It would take a stupid provider to make that calculation in the face of the many warning posts that appear on this board about unsafe locations, dirty incalls, and threatening neighbors. A provider, like any other professional, maximizes her profit by carefully balancing the need to provide a service the client finds actively desirable against the cost of doing so.
"My friend I don't care what a provider charges. I do have every right to comment on it."
Absolutely correct. We have no disagreement whatsoever. We are simply having a discussion about the accuracy and completeness of your comments, not your right to make them.
"Regarding your comparison to cab drivers...no comparison again as there is regulation on taxi fare rate. Oh damn! And there are regulations that cab drivers can't decline a fair because they "aren't their type." (AKA no black guys) Try again sir."
Really not seeing your point. The fact cabs are regulated simply means that in setting permissible fares the regulatory body has asked for information about the legitimate business expenses of driving a cab, and factored them into the calculation. The costs for maintenance would still be part of that. Otherwise, there wouldn't be any cabs because the drivers would starve.
"Lastly, if that beater cab, unwashed for a week, were to pick me up for a much needed ride I would kindly pay my fair if I could GET OFF where and when I wanted at a reasonable price."
Since you feel that is a fair comparison, then I must assume that "if that diseased old streetwalker, stinking of whiskey and vomit, were to offer you a much needed fuck you would kindly pay her rate so long as you could GET OFF where and when you wanted at a reasonable price. Right? Really???
Hypothetically speaking, if there were a commission established to set the permissible rates charged by the sex worker industry, you can be damned sure they include the costs of good hygiene. They would insist upon it, in fact. And just to be clear, I'm not trying to shift the discussion to hygiene only. I am confident that beauty products would be a part of the hygiene calculation just as much as soap.
Minn4evr and Wong and all others...
I did not ever look at the points you're both discussing when I was overseas but merely asked whether I had the "bucks", in whatever country I was in, to be able to partake
Would be interesting if anyone knew how regulated other places outside of the US are.
You Sir, may be confident, However I disagree with your opinion, with regard to a regulatory
agency taking into consideration, the cost of beauty products, as part of regulating personal hygiene
or business practices of sex workers, if such an agency existed.
Beauty products, Have Nothing to do with Hygiene. and everything to do with promoting an image.
Ya know covering up those nasty wrinkles, and creating a fantasy and so on.
Question ? Do the regulatory agencies charged with regulation of Taxi's require that the female
cabbie's wear make up ? or Wash their ass and brush their teeth ? before picking up a fare.
I know, it a bit off topic, but I could not resist. LOL Tee Hee.
Merry Christmas !
As for the rest of your post, your points are well laid out. Yet you nor I, are in any position to
speak for any provider, and what she incorporates into her business model.
What we, You and I, are in charge of, is our wallets, our senses, ( most of the time ) and our ability to make the call, spend the $$ or Not.
Posted By: minn4evr
I will respond, since you also asked.
"You fail to realize the legal economy cannot be compared to the marginal. When it comes to our discussion there is no rationality."
Nope. Legal or not, a profession is a profession and the calculus required to make it economically viable is the same. If a provider is irrational, and I'll allow there have been a few, she doesn't last long.
"If a provider was trying to maximize profit she would always provide either outcall only (hey gas is so cheap and your vehicle expenses are predictable according to your own argument) or the cheapest incall. Most "well reviewed providers" do neither."
It would take a stupid provider to make that calculation in the face of the many warning posts that appear on this board about unsafe locations, dirty incalls, and threatening neighbors. A provider, like any other professional, maximizes her profit by carefully balancing the need to provide a service the client finds actively desirable against the cost of doing so.
"My friend I don't care what a provider charges. I do have every right to comment on it."
Absolutely correct. We have no disagreement whatsoever. We are simply having a discussion about the accuracy and completeness of your comments, not your right to make them.
"Regarding your comparison to cab drivers...no comparison again as there is regulation on taxi fare rate. Oh damn! And there are regulations that cab drivers can't decline a fair because they "aren't their type." (AKA no black guys) Try again sir."
Really not seeing your point. The fact cabs are regulated simply means that in setting permissible fares the regulatory body has asked for information about the legitimate business expenses of driving a cab, and factored them into the calculation. The costs for maintenance would still be part of that. Otherwise, there wouldn't be any cabs because the drivers would starve.
"Lastly, if that beater cab, unwashed for a week, were to pick me up for a much needed ride I would kindly pay my fair if I could GET OFF where and when I wanted at a reasonable price."
Since you feel that is a fair comparison, then I must assume that "if that diseased old streetwalker, stinking of whiskey and vomit, were to offer you a much needed fuck you would kindly pay her rate so long as you could GET OFF where and when you wanted at a reasonable price. Right? Really???
Hypothetically speaking, if there were a commission established to set the permissible rates charged by the sex worker industry, you can be damned sure they include the costs of good hygiene. They would insist upon it, in fact. And just to be clear, I'm not trying to shift the discussion to hygiene only. I am confident that beauty products would be a part of the hygiene calculation just as much as soap.
MN: thank you for such a level headed reply- when sharing your opinion,
though I'm smart enough to understand you aren't "WK-ing" for me, this is just your take, as was the take I shared,
Without me getting to personal & over sharing I very much understand the costs of "running your own business"
I agree w/so many of the gals that chimed in on this, as well as the guys not giving a damn about manicures & hair- true some don't...but it really wasn't my point and "creative" or not an expense is an expense.
I weigh out many things before jumping into it, (mostly)
for instance- when I know I'm going to be seen naked a few times a week and 1-2 of those times w/a complete stranger....... my chocolate craving gets put aside & I'm proud to do the extra squats.....
Life's about balance, sacrifice, & trying to be the best you can be...always! I'm sure most of us gals are like that,
IMHO this post has turned into more double standards than anything,
some of you like to talk down to women ("grow up, we whine, plenty of BSC" ect. ect.) when truth is all this was -was my retort over Wong "wondering if a gal ever considered ......" I simply asked what he's ever considered/thought about....
IDK if the double standard is just general resentment against females
or if it's something specific about me, but you tell me to act more like a business, grow up, get real, ect.
Yet you don't think I (we) should run it like a business huh?
Ever hear ("she was all business,no connection or a real clock watcher") uuuhg .......
Also supposedly I shouldn't have an alias or using one makes me a coward. I've stated it b4 and I will again:
SOME men don't care to hear about the everyday squabbles/discussions & or questions that I may chose to talk about under my alias & I don't think they should feel like they have to pick a side, stand up for- or in any other way get involved in whatever I may want to discuss on this here MN discussion board.
As far as what some other guys have said-I see your points totally I don't expect ya'all to chat or care about ANY of my costs.
I just wanted to know what a specific guy has or hasn't ever considered when evaluating the kinds of ads he comes across.
Also as a lovely lady said earlier there are some things people care about that are important to them, because they hold themselves to a particular standard. 
Ok that's my updated thoughts & thanks to so many 4 your opinion, I totally get it & the ability to interact in this way is not something horrible, IMHO:
Understanding builds connection & I think true connection is becoming more scarce these days.
Posted By: minn4evr
I note that Mindy listed the following, "hotel fees, tour costs, health care, beauty maintenance, or anything else" as expenses an escort has to deal with and you have elected to focus exclusively on health care and beauty maintenance." I'll talk about those in a second, but dude, EVERY professional person or organization calculates the costs of doing business and figures those costs into the fee structure. The professional who does not, does not stay in business very long. So the hotel costs, tour expenses and many kinds of "anything else" are things that have to be considered by an escort who wants to keep eating.
Health costs? Yes, businesses do provide health care coverage for employees, and they do calculate what that benefit costs them, and they do include that cost of doing business in determining the revenue they need to generate. Solo practitioners do the same thing. If you are going to talk about being an adult and "running a business" then it seems to me you need to allow providers to make the same calculation as every other business person.
So then, beauty maintenance. It certainly is true that all women spend money on beauty maintenance. Yup. Cab drivers spend money keeping their taxis running, too, but then, most everyone spends money on operating a car. So using your approach cab drivers should have no right to include the costs for gas, tires, oil changes, and car washes, when determining the fare to charge. Right? But they do. They most certainly do. If an item is central to the success of a business, the cost of that item is always figured into the fee structure. I read once on one of the boards "Without appearance there is no first date, without performance there is no second, without personality there is no third, fourth, fifth ..." and I think it is a true statement. If it is, and without appearance there is no first date, then the cost to maintain appearance is a legitimate business expense.
Your thoughts?
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