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Re: Safety In Minneapolis
OldRanger 62 Reviews 109 reads
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When going to Minneapolis  put in a request for private security as it should be granted for the citizen taxpayer  as it is for three council members.

TwoIron2944 reads

If the MPD gets defunded what will happen to the hobby in Minneapolis?  With nothing but a bunch of social workers to enforce city ordinances I predict a lot more providers getting into the business and a drop in prices. Gotta love the law of unintended consequences!

It might create a department to safe all the wonderful lady's . If the one's whom are crying out for change will be overseeing it once it's implemented I'll bet they crack down on the girls. The ugly wife's club will not want these girls  
tempting there loving husbands. Or then again maybe they'll loosen up on prostitution and try to get the girls off the street  corners. ????????      

OhhReally135 reads

Great question.  If the Minneapolis police department gets defunded, I may give second thoughts to even going to into Minneapolis.

I say "defEnd the police."

there are thousands living in powderhorn park with drug deals and sexual assaults daily and no one seems to care about that. Well the neighbors do but that doesn't seem to matter.

It is getting too dangerous to park your car for an hour in most of Minneapolis.  With all of the businesses closed, there is no rational excuse for being there if you do get you car broken into, or even get in an accident.

The better girls will move to the burbs and keep prices up as the suburban cops do care enough to try and stop the hobby.

In short, things will get more dangerous for everyone. We lost a safe city that ignored the hobby.

Park in a shopping mall and take an Uber/Lyft to your destination.

OhhReally124 reads

I guess that's an option.  Personally, I don't really want to add an extra $80 to every appointment for an Uber round trip.    

Been parking in Minneapolis daily, on the street, no issues, beyond pigeon poop. For more than 22 years. Wish the cops would do something about those pigeons, tho.

Worst case the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office takes over.

When going to Minneapolis  put in a request for private security as it should be granted for the citizen taxpayer  as it is for three council members.

OhhReally126 reads

I would agree the police are not going anywhere.  The problem is the defunding and the cascading impact.  Defunding means less money to pay officers and eliminate or reduce other resources designed to combat crime.  Officers who are able to retire are doing so.  If a young person is considering a career, why would they pick law enforcement?  I foresee a problem in finding decent candidates in the future.  The true intent of defunding is to vilify and punish the police.    

Personally, I find it rather it rather irresponsible to defund the police.  What will be done with the money saved from the defunding?  Is there a plan to replace the resources and/or services that will be lost due to defunding?  If there is, I have not heard it.

Not to get too political on this forum, but the political party that controls the cities and states that aren't backing their police forces are demoralizing the police.  The best people, the people who naturally have options, will leave.  The quality of police will decline.  There will be less money for departments and so enforcement and protection will decline.  Street thugs will be emboldened by actual encouragement of their behavior by this unnamed political party.  Crime will increase as consequences for crime decrease.  It is a spiral that happens to all these cities controlled by this unnamed political party.

Hiring people anywhere now will be a challenge. Businesses are being called racist all over the country for not having equality in their offices. Plus most of MPLS cops now live in suburbs and they do not want that anymore. So basically they will have to now hire locals and POC for all the inequality going on. How many POC will actually apply. If you are 1 of 20 you will get the job because you have to get the job.

Listen to you talk about dangerous Minneapolis. Stop clutching your pearls and give me that necklace.

Reform of the MPD is long overdue. We'll see what happens but at least people are actively engaged, committed, and thinking for a change.

Right !? I was about to say...😂😂😂
Fwiw I still feel quite safe seeing as I live near "ground zero" and ride my bike everywhere here and beyond
Besides, they've forcibly evicted people from the parks now anyway 🤷
 They really weren't affecting the neighborhood that much,  people who simply don't want to see the homelessness or addiction in front of their faces.  
 I take those applications like "Citizen app with a grain of salt for the most part as I don't believe everything I read online.
 Especially when people are false reporting shootings & car jackings that are allegedly happening right in front of my house and I see absolutely nothing of the sort going on.  

I remember a couple months ago people were thinking that the lynlake area was on fire and there was rioting still going on when in fact, it was only the Speedway that caught fire and that's since been razed .. it's fairly safe over there .
And further I don't think most of you know what defunding police actually means either.. it's not get rid of the entire police department lol lol

OhhReally116 reads

Ms. D, I understand you are so much more enlightened and educated than these suburbanites that are terrified to step foot in the big, bad city.  The reality is crime is on the rise in Minneapolis.  Perhaps it has not impacted you directly so you feel you can dismiss facts which do not fit into your narrative or belief system.  Go ahead.  While I hope it never happens, perhaps you will feel differently if you are a victim in the future.      

The riots in Minneapolis are on scale to have as much if not more economic impact than the riots in Los Angeles after the Rodney King case.  Downtown Minneapolis has become dangerous.  Violence has spread to Uptown which has traditionally been mostly safe.  Criminals who are arrested are being released end up being released very quickly which allows them to continue commit crimes.  I do not believe Minneapolis is a crime infested, hell hole.  I still believe it is a great city and I want to see it continue to shine.  However, crime is trending upwards and can't be ignored.

And further, I don't think you can definitively say what defunding the police means either.  Simply stated, less funding means less law endorsement and less protection of the public.  None of us will understand the true impact until the defunding has played out.  

I'm sure you will dismiss the comments above as over reaction and panic just as you dismiss the internet stories which disclose the uptick in crime.  

 
https://www.southwestjournal.com/news/2020/08/summer-crime-spree/

https://kstp.com/news/1-dead-11-injured-after-overnight-shooting-in-minneapolis/5767188/

We know from centuries of human behavior that if there are no consequences for bad behavior, bad behavior multiplies.  Due to economic realities, police budgets are always LESS than optimal.  Society accepts a certain level of criminality rather than spend every dime on police.  The thinner spread law enforcement is, the less often there are consequences for criminal behavior.  
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In Minneapolis the feckless mayor pulled cops out of the 3rd precinct and the feckless governor let riots go on for four nights before the President  insisted they call in the National Guard.  The riots stopped that very day.  Because suddently there were potential consequences.
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Crime will go up in Minneapolis and the surrounding area because liberals are more interested in virtue signaling than in the realities of human behavior, punishment and rewards.

I decided to move to Florida even before all of the George Floyd destruction began for health reasons (need salt water for swimming, and sunshine).

Now, I personally can't wait to be in an environment where I can feel reasonably safe to drive and park my car.  Or, ride my bike and not have THAT stolen!

I will miss my Minnesota friends, and shall come for the summer months (if it's safe).  Being in a suburb does help, but the neighborhood atmoshpere in the burbs is a bit dull.  I can do dull, though.  It's what happens behind closed doors that counts, anyway!  There is where the excitement begins, folks.  

So, getting an Uber from a safer parking place is a great idea.  Or, find a lady in the burbs, where I've always been.  

Stormy

The MPD is saying that they've had over 75 cops apply for disability since June. That's 75 cops not on the streets. Twelve fewer two person squads per shift. That's a huge contributor to any increase in crime.

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