I think that there is a lot to consider with this one. We did this one awhile ago….but I believe it is worthy of more discussion. Personally I have a disdain of static incall locations for personal safety. I also have a “hard-on” against incall locations visible from a parking lot.
Much to consider……high traffic areas……neighborhoods…….Outcalls for us to come to YOU! Incalls? I control the environment. No hidden cameras, no jealous wives or S/O’s and such. On the other hand….I outcall to you……you get to kick back…..I go away (like Charlie Sheen says), and you fall asleep happy without having to drive home.
Let the discussion begin! Ding!!!!
I don't mind coming to see you. It's all part of the anticipation for me.
Wow...my computer shows this post at 437am last night....I thought I was the only one awake then. I feel comfort with either choice is built by proper exchanges made in preliminary contact. That is where the "foundation is laid", for all that follows. If that is built properly, thru good information exchange, even phone conversations, degree of acceptance with either choice increases. Since there is no perfect answer.....the next-best resources "referrals," etc must be explored. Cameras are extremely flexible, & everywhere.
I think its in best interest to be mobile. When I first started, I read this guy's blog who owned an agency for years. He put it simply "A provider in a static location has a bull's-eye on her back"
Whenever I start to consider having a static location, I remember that bull's-eye...
this goes along with what I see in Fl. - very fluid & constantly moving action on the surface.
I have never provided outcall, unless it is someone I have seen before, or has a stellar reputation on TER. It's my opinion that I am safer in my own environment that I am in total control of. With regard to raising an eyebrow, If a provider uses her brain-vs-greed, it is totally possible to go unnoticed. Just my two cents based upon my own personal experiences.
this goes along with what I see in Fl. - very fluid & constantly moving action on the surface.
I could be ready on fairly short notice for my regulars and new friends too if I could get them screened in quick fashion. I was low volume so traffic was never a problem and I didn't feel as though I had a bull's eye on my back. Never. I felt I was safe because I screened once I learned about that. Hotels have camera's and nosey staff who are often paid extra to turn you in to LE ....it's not just landlord's and neighbors you have to worry about so those who use hotels should not feel overly confident and safe these days. Blurring your face in pics helps to protect your identity and I feel it is very important to do either that or to block your face in some other means.
Using hotels has other disadvantages other than nosey staff....nsnc causes lost time and lost revenue. As much as you guys complain about a lady not showing, us providers have had the same happen. Although it is a part of doing business, it still sucks and we cannot come on here every time and complain. You guys would tear us to shreds if we did that. Plus, we have the 15 day hold on debit/credit card each time you rent a room. Totally sucks too. Nothing like holding your card hostage!! Trying keeping track of that! It's not automatically released after 15 days, folks. LOL.
I just really miss having my static incall. Mostly because I could work whenever I wanted to. Now I have to plan things much more carefully.
Just my .02 cents.
Even with low volume & screening I still think its not a good idea. It would only take one client who was a little pissy or a little obsessed to bring problems to you. I have heard about other provider's nightmares with stalking clients.
I do not think there is such a thing as the perfect solution, static, hotels & out-calls all have pros & cons. I like hotels because if need to: I can get out of dodge or I can relocate quick.
Reducing any possible risk to the lowest factor is your best option. Well reviewed ladies & established hobbyists reduce lots of the risk
Much to consider……high traffic areas……neighborhoods…….Outcalls for us to come to YOU! Incalls? I control the environment. No hidden cameras, no jealous wives or S/O’s and such. On the other hand….I outcall to you……you get to kick back…..I go away (like Charlie Sheen says), and you fall asleep happy without having to drive home.
Let the discussion begin! Ding!!!!
I prefer providers with incall, even those I know well. Several years ago, the one and only close encounter I have had with LE was at a provider's incall which was her actual residence, an upscale studio apartment. Neighbor's complaints compelled the landlord to ask local LE to investigate. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. No actual harm done other than to scare the living shit out of me.
It's possible to do a static incall if the location is selected carefully so that the traffic going in and out is not noticeable to those who are around. I've seen it done. Certainly doing it out of a house where the neighbors can easily see the clients coming and going is a bad idea and it's pretty easy to find reports of people who were turned in to LE by their neighbors.
Outcall is a different matter from a hobbyist's perspective. If the provider is not legit, it is not so easy for the hobbyist to walk away from a bad situation. Worst case, you may have just let an untrustworthy person know where you live. I would only do it with someone I trust and even then I still prefer incall.
Outcall is not an option for me and I'm glad it's not.
As for incall, given that with traffic is can take an hour to get from one side of the Twin Cities to other in peak traffic times, guys need to know your general location so they can plan ahead.
I have found that busy hotels seem to provide the most cover. If a girl were to stay only one day in a hotel, I'd be surprised if anyone would notice the traffic.
I love outcall to the hotel I am staying. As stated, after being so nicely relaxed by a woman, not having to drive in city traffic makes the feeling last! I live on a gravel road at home.
at a hotel. Seems easier to blend in.
I prefer incall, I don't mind going to see someone and as earlier poster said the anticipation is part of the experience.
I can understand the reasons for not having a static incall, but I prefer a static incall. I like to see providers multiple times and if they are in the same location I know where I am going and can plan my trip easier.
I think a static incall can work, the location must be carefully planned. If a provider is able to schedule a majority of her appts during business hours during weekdays a location in a residential neighborhood would be ideal.
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And only in hotels. You are both on neutral ground, and you can take the lady out to dinner first, and have a nice long appointment to boot. Of course, I only hobby from a hotel, and would not think of doing it from my own home. Also, I stick almost exclusively with steady, reliable, well-reviewed local providers. I'm a happy little boy.
incall hotels, there are ones with nondiscreet ways to walk in, like downtown Marriot or Hilton, I dont like. and hotels where one can walk in atleast somewhat discreetly. same with private places. so, if you are going to use a hotel, please use one that we can walk in to the elevator somewhat privately.
I have used all of the above. I have found that everyone has their own personal preference. I find I can't ever keep everyone happy all of the time!
It all depends if you're low or hi vol. For low volume (1 or 2 a day) providers, static or dynamic incall location doesn't make any difference. For high vol providers, then you'd have to consider all the above.
I'm not particularly comfortable with outcall.
As to nosy apartment neighhbors, I've lived in several different apartment buildings and I really don't recall even seeing my neighbors except in passing once every couple of months. I've never known them and they've never known me. It strikes me that apartments create an anonymity one isn't going to achieve by being at a hotel too long or operating out of a house.
But, what do I know? I'm on the other side of the transaction.
As an out of towner, I frequently drive RT for a day of play, a 400 mile day. If I visit for a few, it is with family. As already pointed out, volume and visibility are big factors in variable vs static location.
Like a few others, outcall is out of the question. Too much risk. So all my hobby activity is road games. I don't mind going to hotels; the beds are better, for sure. Still, it's nice when a provider tells you about the discreet entrance instead of letting you parade past the front desk. Depends on the place. I've seen a few ladies who maintain static in-calls and they're pretty careful. It's nice to know how to get there, especially for my ATF, but I do feel conspicuous sometimes. I try not to visit on any unintentional schedule.