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Re: P411 providers???
Fit-To-Fuck 1918 reads
posted
1 / 29

I think you should be helping your fellow hobbyists out by naming her.

I also don't understand your statement about her giving you another chance. WTF!

Let me tell you what probably happened. You were on standby. She was taking appointments and probably double booking. You just didn't didn't fit into the schedule. She led you around by your dick.
Guys like you will always have providers walking all over you and laughing at you.

Grow a set, or don't come here whining the next time you get stiffed.

dfree3305 2 Reviews 3385 reads
posted
2 / 29

So two days ago I recieved a responding email from a provider that I had met here and contacted on p411.  She had wonderful reviews and everything so I called her that day and when she answered we went through the screening process and set up a time for the next day (4 pm).  Well 3:30 rolls around the next day and I call her to inform her that I am on my way to her incall location but she says that her dad had a doctor's appointment that she had forgotten about and so she would not be available until later.  I asked her when she would want to reschedule for and she said 6 pm.  This time 5:30 rolls around and I call her again to inform her that I was on my way.  This time she just plain doesn't answer the phone.  An hour and a half later she texts me and says that she is sorry for not answering but it was her only day off this week and so her schedule was crazy.  I was of course a little mad that she was twisting me in circles but I brushed it off and said I was willing to try this one more time.  This time she told me 9 pm...well I got to the second call location (after she gave me the general area to be in) and she answers and directs me to her apartment complex.  I pulled in to the apartment ten minutes later and there are several large buildings and not once did she mention which building to enter and so I called her again to find out which door to go to and wait for her (she said to call when I got to the apartment complex so she could let me in the door) but she doesn't answer.  I wait around for a half hour to make sure that it isn't a stupid issue like a phone going dead or something and I call several more times but still no answer.  So I finally left after giving her a full 40 minutes after our scheduled time and even though I expect to hear from her (probably another excuse of some kind) sometime during the night, no such call or text or email comes.

So my question is, do I simply decide that this was a provider that was yanking my chain around or should I assume that things just got a little crazy and that maybe I should attempt to call her again in a couple of days to try and set something up again?  Do you guys/gals think that she will even bother to answer/give me a call back?  She is smoking hot and I would really like to see her but I do not know how to go about getting her to give me a second chance (because I assume that, just like me, she feels like she is the one getting the raw end of the deal in the situation).  Thanks for your input.

RealP4U 57 Reviews 2070 reads
posted
3 / 29



Why would you give a provider so many chances?  I would have bailed after the first flimsy excuse.  My advice:  Just move on!!!!

And, what good is your NSNC post if you don't name names.  Any woman who treated you so poorly doesn't really deserve your discreetion.  She lied to you three times. Do you really think she needs your protection?

dfree3305 2 Reviews 1539 reads
posted
4 / 29

Well there are several reasons why I chose to continue with the provider and those are that first she was the only one answering my messages for the last week or so and I was getting desperate.  Second she had a body to die for and reviews that said she knew how to use it.  Third, I am a little bit of a too forgiving kind of guy and as long as they apologize I can usually move on even if it is the third lie in a row.

The reasons for not posting her name is because: 1: This is the first time I have tried to book an appointment with her and this situation is probably not typical of her and so I did not want to ruin her good name.  2: I am new at this and so I did not even know if it was okay to post her name in such a manner.  3: I do not want to cause problems for her and I would really like to see her still as long as she doesn't put me through this situation again.

Fit-To-Fuck 2809 reads
posted
5 / 29

Maybe she will get her shit together and think twice before sending someone on a wild goose chase. Our time is valuable and blue balls are really a major bummer.

1penguin 14 Reviews 2024 reads
posted
6 / 29

then why post this shit to start with,  if your not man enough to include her name ,keep your drama to your self.

hardyharhar 83 Reviews 1845 reads
posted
7 / 29

Amen brother! After all that bullshit she should be outed.

chiseler84 21 Reviews 2016 reads
posted
8 / 29

Sorry to jump on the pile on this poor guy, but I agree.  Nothing was gained by this.  If you want to help out fellow hobbyists, don't make us read some lengthy story about your experiences only to leave us with your thought that you want to see her again.  It does no one any good.

Next time, forget the details.  Just identify her and tell us she was a NCNS.  When you have a few reviews under your belt we will believe you, even if she goes on the board and tells a different story that she called you, phone was dead, yada yada.  We will avoid her, she loses business, and either changes her methods or gets out of the biz.  Unless your time is worthless, join the 97% of the rest of us who are professionals and don't have time to waste outside apartment complexes waiting for some flaky lady to call us back.

Posted By: Fit-To-Fuck
I think you should be helping your fellow hobbyists out by naming her.

I also don't understand your statement about her giving you another chance. WTF!

Let me tell you what probably happened. You were on standby. She was taking appointments and probably double booking. You just didn't didn't fit into the schedule. She led you around by your dick.
Guys like you will always have providers walking all over you and laughing at you.

Grow a set, or don't come here whining the next time you get stiffed.

ThreeCupsPlease 1235 reads
posted
9 / 29

Some time ago, I had a similar experience with a woman who, in fact, had me "hooked."  It was I had entered an "adult" version of junior high school.  I accepted her apologies and waited for things to get better.  They never did.  You need to move on.

dfree3305 2 Reviews 2009 reads
posted
10 / 29

Apparently everyone is in agreement that I should have named her so I guess I will.  Her name is ginger

I_doubt_it 1731 reads
posted
11 / 29

White Knight here......   Though there are some new girls who just joined P411 recently, most of the ladies/girls on P411 are very reliable.....

I would contact P411 and let them know about this providers habits.......  They're very interested in keeping flakes off of P411....

If you don't out her on TER at least get her out of P411.

P411 user......

RealP4U 57 Reviews 2332 reads
posted
12 / 29


Thanks for the information.  That is what this board if all about.  Of course, I can see why you tried to hard.  

Posted By: dfree3305
Apparently everyone is in agreement that I should have named her so I guess I will.  Her name is ginger

ssa5 6 Reviews 1550 reads
posted
13 / 29

Never set a date, because she never bothered to respond back to my PMs. Was actually kind of hoping to meet her as she seemed, if the ad had any truth, to be at least somewhat educated, mature, and responsible. Was kind of hoping that she would eventually get back to me with a good excuse or reason, seems more like I should really be glad she did not contact me. Too bad too because she was going to be quite literally the last girl I visit with....

Long story short which I might post about later, but I am basically done with all this. There are two girls I would like to continue to see (Corrine and Caroline), and let me say that one aspect that sets both apart is neither I would ever expect this kind of chain yanking from. But as for anyone new, forget about it. Maybe I'll write about this later, but there are two well reviewed girls here that have basically given me the same treatment in a way, although not to the degree the OP went through. Honestly, you can look at the review and it can gush all over how hot they were, what a once in a lifetime experience it was, etc.. but what good does a hot looking supermodel provide if she is a complete flake that will require you to spend more money on Advil?

BTW on Wednesday alone when I figured that Ginger was not going to call, I set a date with one on Tuesday who did not respond, another called me early in the morning at told me to call her later to set a date that evening. She never responded when I called. Finally topped off the evening by having Tiffany/Nicole from BP be a complete NCNS, and I believe the reason why is that she feared I might review her. Thats 4 tries, and 4 misses in one day.

vorlon 119 Reviews 2301 reads
posted
14 / 29

If so, a definite thanks from me as I was interested in her.  But yanking your chain that way is disgraceful.

steve778900-- 1655 reads
posted
15 / 29

agreed, as a newbie I count on p411 to be class ladies who won't jerk me.  At this point in the hobbie I asume P411 ladies will show me the same respect I show them.  i.e show-up, and honor their rules

dfree3305 2 Reviews 2047 reads
posted
16 / 29

Posted By: vorlon
If so, a definite thanks from me as I was interested in her.  But yanking your chain that way is disgraceful.
Yes that Ginger.

Fit-To-Fuck 2030 reads
posted
17 / 29

If you had a red flag you would not have played the game that you did.

You are right. You have no defense!

MsDynamite See my TER Reviews 1542 reads
posted
19 / 29

Posted By: steve778900--
agreed, as a newbie I count on p411 to be class ladies who won't jerk me.  At this point in the hobbie I asume P411 ladies will show me the same respect I show them.  i.e show-up, and honor their rules
P411 has always been very good about keeping in contact with their members.
I just rejoined a few months ago. No problems with anyone thus far.

gingermpls See my TER Reviews 10134 reads
posted
20 / 29

I have no defense besides my gut feeling. A red flag came up (which I will not disclose). If you want to argue fair enough, but protecting myself, my choldren,  and my previous clients privacy is my number one priority. So my other hobbyist , and previous friends sorry I was protecting ”US”.  I have,nothing else to say. If you choose not to see me that's your choice and a sad lost. I have further nothing to say, and this is the exact reason why so many,of the true passionate gf like girls who enjoy what they do retire. If, you or I don't follow our intuitions, than what?

dfree3305 2 Reviews 2236 reads
posted
21 / 29

Well I do understand about red flags but I can only think of one reason why she would have chosen to stop answering my phone calls and that is because I said I might need another phone call to make sure I was in the right area since she led me to a small sideroad and I didn't know if I could find it easily but that never happened...I found the apartments easy enough once I finally saw the street (after my second pass) but that is where she stopped answering the phone calls.

Sorry guys, I thought that I had a legitimate cause for complaint but it appears that she had a good reason for not answering my phone calls.  If she doesn't feel safe then that is her discretion to turn a person down.

vorlon 119 Reviews 2118 reads
posted
22 / 29

You rescheduled the appointment two times before no longer answering your phone.  At the very least you could have told him something along the lines of "sorry but this isn't going to work out" instead of just leaving him hanging.

chiseler84 21 Reviews 1925 reads
posted
23 / 29

If she had a red flag issue, that is perfectly fine and her perogative.  No provider should ever see a guy when she sees a red flag or anything makes her uncomfortable.  She simply declines the appointment.  No explanation is necessary, unless she chooses to offer the explanation.
However, lying to you and not answering the phone is no excuse.  If she didn't want to see you, she should've called or texted you telling you that she had decided against seeing you.  Not anwering the phone is absolutely wrong.  No excuse or defense to that.
OP, stop cowtailing to this lady.  Grow a set.  She was wrong.  Not you.

dfree3305 2 Reviews 2534 reads
posted
24 / 29

There is a big difference between growing a set and being willing to understand a person's situation...did she handle it the way she should have? Probably not but she did at least defend herself on here and that means that she had what she felt was a valid reason.  Sure I would have appreciated the phone call telling me I was denied but I can understand how a phone call like that could be difficult or even turn ugly.  All I am saying is that not everyone is willing to make a judgement on a person simply because of one experience with them and maybe that qualifies me as weak or naive but I run my life by being willing to give people second chances and I refuse to choose not to uphold that particular value of mine, even in a business like this.

I was mad when I wrote my original post so next time I will keep my rants to myself...sorry for wasting anyones time.

gingermpls See my TER Reviews 3897 reads
posted
25 / 29

That add was when I was 18 and just started look at the date, but guys come on your attacking me.

Posted By: Fit-To-Fuck
Your ass is not that small.  

warduck 16 Reviews 1484 reads
posted
26 / 29

O to the point,  thanks vorlon

brentw 24 Reviews 2128 reads
posted
27 / 29

I booked an appointment with Sweet Sarah a couple weeks ago via email, and was directed to arrive at the specified time and park across the street from her apartment building... then walk over to the front door.  I've been told by a few other providers that I kind of look like a cop, so I had a feeling as I walked across the street to the building that she wouldn't answer if she saw me coming.  And that's exactly what happened... I stood there buzzing the apartment for about 5 minutes before finally giving up.  When I emailed her later she acted surprised, and said she'd look into the malfunctioning buzzer.  Yeah, right.

vorlon 119 Reviews 3085 reads
posted
28 / 29

But it is wise to wait until you are no longer angry to post.  It also gives her a chance to get back to you.  If you hear nothing then you are completely justified in posting what happened.

khloe_mn See my TER Reviews 2372 reads
posted
29 / 29

I am not going to defend either but I will say its a hard situation..
On one hand I understand the client frustration.. But you all are so quick to attack without knowing what happened. TER is a valuable resource but unfortunatly some things posted on here are out right hurtful. As gingermpls said, its things like this that make us true girls who actually ENJOY what they do, quit. I have had comments posted about me too and its hurtful to me, because I do my best to be the best provider I can be. There is no manual out there saying "if they do this... dont see them" etc, so you have to go with your gut. And like someone said earlier that call is hard to make, and honestly, you would rather not have to let someone down over the phone and hear them get upset with you. I know its not right but you get scared, and sometime hide! :) But its a scary world out there for providers. We take alot of chances as do you.. Theres just alot of misunderstanding, and uncertainty.  (heres to legalization!)
I will keep in mind your comments and remember that next time i "get a bad feeling" or red flag, but also keep in mind how badly soemones reputation can be damaged by your comments! (I had threats the last time someone commented about me because I had a red flag because he went by 2 different names! People saying "people like you should end up in a gutter." Just keep that in mind fellas!

I'd hate to lose fellow good providers to things like this..

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