My problem is keeping track of the time. If you are enjoying things time flies by and an hour feels like only a half hour and when the session is over and you get back to your car and a clock, its an hour and a half gone by without knowing.
So I'm going to start (what I think) is a good debatable topic.... I'm wondering how many ladies have problems with guys that make them feel bad if they don't spend a lot of "off the clock time" with them.... I'm not sure anyone would even want to talk about this--- but I know it gets discussed amongst ourselves and I would like to bring the topic public. Guys, I'm sure most of you enjoy "off the clock time" & I understand why and (when possible) I try to figure that into my visits, but there are times life gets in the way... I'm starting to question how much harm one does when spending this off the clock time..if your good at connecting with people, like I've been told I am ~and I know I am, I've always been a charming flirt How much does it screw things up if you (as a provider) spend extra time with each visit? Is it blurring the lines too much......after all we are both in agreement on a very cool topic keeping it fun,simple,& stress free right?
I mean there's always the point that a women with a more active life (or day) may not be able to always -and some can never -offer it....what then? Is it taken personal?
How about the men themselves that are very busy & make sure they take care of planning out exactly how much time they have, they come & go with no extra visiting. (Let me just say thee are a ton of these guys out there ) Should they really be thought of as so much better, often times I hear they are.
This leads me to why I'm bringing up the subject.... How do gals feel when there are two guys that are both great to be with, one knows the drill and is very efficient, the other "really likes you" so he over stay's every time...
Are we to think the first guy somehow doesn't "connect" with us as well, or maybe we end up thinking he's more respectful (might even care more about us ) & maybe he ends up getting priority appointments.
It can be a dilemma & likely not any one answer will fit,but I would love to hear anyone's input on this...
I hear of guys who say things like " I see this is all business for you" or "I can tell what your in it for" I've never had anyone say this to me -but who knows if anyone ever felt this way-... I think it's always good for people to be as self aware as possible, and I like to hear about the many different opinions out there... Often what people tell me about others, says more about them -then the person they are talking about. I also believe we are never too old or too set in our ways to learn & change our mind....I love communicating and I really hope to hear more on this subject. Thanks in advance. Smile at the sunshine, ~Mindy
It is the womans biz. The guys should definitely be respectful of the time offered and paid for. But, the woman does have a responsibility to keep things moving or not allow them to go overboard.
I had a recent appointment with a lady for a 30 minute session. I knew she didn't really do MSOG so figured 30 mins was sufficient. We ended up talking for like 90 minutes before getting down to biz. I tried to break it off a few times and she was like don't worry about it no problem. I still felt bad at the end of the appointment and gave her the $50 I had on me.
Mindy, love your writing and I don't think I remember your topic being asked for an opinion ever put this way. I would have to say though, which may not be of much help to you, but I think this is an individual by individual thing for ladies. If I connect with a gent and they are not bound by other obligations, yep, time just seems to fly by, but I am enjoying myself and laughing and have the time, I don't charge for it. There are other times when no matter how much I like a client when one or both have other things to do or maybe I am just in the mood to have the session end right on time and who ever I have seen are conscientious of time too. If is going just a little overtime- I say a little haha, and we are having coffee or just visiting for a moment , most of them will bring it to my attention and go by what I say to them- "like, ah its ok- its been fun talking to you, I enjoy your company, but you're right , I got stuff to do" and we say our goodbyes. I'm pretty laid back though and interested in people. If I saw someone and they were pushing the clock purposelessly to get one more in and visit too- well like all of us, you must be in control of your own business and that may mean getting as politely firm as possible and calling it. When I was younger like you , sometimes that would happen. Now I have more time just because thats how it goes most of time at my age-no kids to take to the doctor or pick-up, not in school and being low volume. I say play it by your gut, how much time do YOU want to give off the clock? That's what is important and how you should handle it. Don't feel guilty one bit and as lovely as you are and nice , I can imagine they will be back to "visit" some more. Bottom line, its your business, run it the way that is comfortable and practical for you! Happy Anniversary when it arrives as I always miss birthdays and anniversary's on boards-sigh.. Hugs J.
You should not feel like you should go beyond the time that was agreed upon unless you really want to... but beware the signal you're sending.
2 of the gals I enjoy visiting are chatty and 2 others are, well, one is strictly steamy hot from the moment I walk in and the other is just a quiet person that really gets into the skin-on-skin time.
Go to an AMP some time and be interrupted by phone calls, guys walking in, etc. The only thing I haven't experienced was an interruption during the HE. I've had 3 different gals rubbing me in 1 hour before... the good part of that story was that the 3rd one really wanted to be my masseuse. I can pick out the word "pigu" which, in Mandarin, seems to mean she likes my butt
One thing guys learn in this business is that being a respectful gentleman will always get you a better session, albeit not necessarily a bigger menu. Some of the high pressure negotiators seem to (or lead us all to believe) score the menu items no one else experiences.
My opinion is that you can't be a GF to every client. Find a tactful, fun way to say that!
I recently had a session with a favorite provider and it was the first time I had a definite time I had to leave. I had a job interview! I didn't get the job, but there's never been a more relaxed applicant.
That provider does a great job of making sure we don't go overtime: she tells me what's going on with her. She has a busy schedule and providing is just one part of it. Plus she's so awesome I wouldn't want to take my chances by overstaying my welcome.
But there's another provider who gets so into the session, time is really not a factor. She kind of chooses when we're done, but I've usually gotten two nuts and I'm exhausted. I look at the clock and see we're over 30-45 minutes.
I try to follow the providers' lead. I have mostly been seeing my regulars, and part of the reason I see them is they don't watch the clock too closely. But that's not the main reason, and again, I don't try to push my luck
My problem is keeping track of the time. If you are enjoying things time flies by and an hour feels like only a half hour and when the session is over and you get back to your car and a clock, its an hour and a half gone by without knowing.
It's your business. Run it the way you see fit. There is nothing wrong with OT time when you are having a good time. And if you are having a good time with the gents YOU choose to see GO GIRL!
The only ones that may have a problem with you spending OT time with are ladies that are hardcore clock watchers who don't want you to stray from that practice making you the preferred provider to call upon.
Now in the event your spidey senses tell you a gent might be taking advantage simply say so, DNS him, set the stage before hand that your time is limited & you need to stay on track, ect... I think you get what I'm saying.
YOU always come first gorgeous. OT till your heart's content! At the end of the day you should always go to sleep with happy memories.
Spot on! If you don't want it to end yet, just go for it! If he pays for an hour of your time, wants to break for dinner, then have another go-round without adjusting the donation, that is wrong...YOU set the guidelines and any gent worth his time or yours will fully respect your wishes.
Since we have been seeing each other...I am more worried bout time than you seem...EVER...but I never want anybody to feel that I am trying to take advantage of someone's generous nature by over staying my welcome...
Just not how I roll... take care Kram
Hope all is well in the great state of ND...I just got back from SD...
dates are exactly the same, even with the same provider. I have found that shorter, massage based appointments need to have a higher degree of punctuality, for obvious reasons. I never expect more than a couple of minutes of pleasantries on these appointments.
However, when scheduling FS I always book long, sometimes extremely long appointments. I also am generous to a fault - not by donating tons extra but by picking out a genuinely thoughtful gift or planning an extra special "non-sexual" activity as part of our date. I strive to always be on time, almost never cancel, act like a respectful gentleman, etc. With all this being said, I find that the few FS providers that I visit - OFTEN WANT TO - spend extra time with me, when their schedules allow. Sometimes an hour, sometimes till morning. Of course this doesn't always happen nor do I expect it. But it is awesome when a gorgeous woman chooses to spend some of HER precious time with me.
For the guys that think I'm crazy - Does this behavior (on my part) get me, more and better sex, expanded menus, preferential booking status, unforgettable experiences with beautiful women who actually like me ?
Most low volume girls you are probably the only client they have that day so skies the limit, as for massage girls they tend to be high volume and have a guy every hour so you really cant stay late - theyll kick your ass out the exact minute it is over.
the gift you ladies offer is not earned or deserved by us. Fortunately you choose to offer the opportunity to engage in a beneficial trade. The trade is simple; the first part is, there is a mutual and firm promise that both of us owe no more than what was agreed and that our time together is discreet. in exchange for time and touch we promise to be gentleman when we see you and two more things; I promise to leave a token gift for your time (with out negotiating the price) and then leave when the time is up. that said, we are all people and we are people who enjoy each other for the most part. If everything above is understood and you have some time to talk that is great. if we want to go for a M-Cycle ride or out to eat that is separate, not earned or expected. bottom line is if you have kept your part of the deal and I kept mine then we can do what ever we want
You guys are very special, it's always slightly nerve racking for me to start a topic now days - so I'm extremely grateful to those of you that took the time to reply and give your insight... I think you all make very valid points & I tend to agree with most, I will open up a little more right now & say that I struggle with sticking to the agreed upon time (at times) because I don't want to intrude & sometimes I lose all track of time.....it can be hard to know how to keep the right pace...usually if one doesn't get into chatting much during a visit I don't over extend the time at all But when I get along real well with someone I enjoy extra time.. All this can be a balancing act.... on the days I may have other stuff to do & sometimes when I meet someone new I'm actually wondering how much they like me if they stick to their time (but that's my own issue) so I guess anyone who meets me should believe if I ever felt like I need to Stay on track time wise I will always let you know that I have plans and when they might be. Thanks to those of you again I'm so glad to have you all in my life, even if we've never met I find your opinions and discussions to be educational and fun.
Expectations are planned resentments...I do NOT expect any "extra" anything...I am happy for the time I have with any reputable provider...with my limited experience, I feel, I have gotten treated extremely well...
Personally just met one of those reputable providers for 2 hours last week...I was willing to pay more than I usually do...just to get to know her better...we really hit it off WELL...I was 2 minutes early and 5 minutes late leaving...just putting on shoes and getting myself out the door...
IMHO...my time in getting to know her is on the clock...we spent quite a bit of time talking during the session...she is such a wonderful provider, she was more worried I was getting mine...I had to say chill girl...I'm good...she had no clock in her room and did not seem to care...I was more concerned about the time then she seemed...I asked twice what time it was...JUST to not over stay my welcome taking into account, we were getting towards the end and she wanted me to bust a nut...but told her during the session I have "issues" sometime cumming and if I didn't, it would not mean I enjoyed my time any less with her...this woman worked her ass off...mouth mostly...but really wanted me to cum...which I did...but as of now, it was such a blur I don't know where I came, but man I did...for real girl...
Now I am going to throw-out a couple of curve balls....
1. We did allot of emailing on the frontend, which I felt lead to us hitting it off so well...but I was getting worried it may be toooo much emailing...this too cuts into providers time...my goal was her being VERY comfortable with me...BUT I have tendency of being extremely over-zealous and impulsive...I understand individual provider likes and dislikes...but as a newbie hobbyist I was worried about being a pest...
2. Same provider after our AMAZING session, I sent her a thank you email...see replied very sweetly and said what a wonderful time she had. She also asked me if I minded if we stayed in touch...of course I said feel free to contact me anytime and was completely blown away by many of things she said about me...truly flattered...she had mentioned that this behavior she was exhibiting was very non-typical for her; she also told me I could email, text or call anytime...now…if I was a rich dude…I may not think she was as sincere as I think she is…I have no expectations one way or the other if she contacts me or not...(did I mention...expectations can be planned resentments), I am most definitely going to see her again...my quandary again goes back on how much, is too much???…she put it out there, but I do not want to piss her off…by having too much contact, being clingy or reaching creep-a-zoid status…did I mention my impulsivity…
I am a single dude, no wife, no kids, no GF currently…so I basically do not have limitations or obligations that some other hobbyist may have…
These questions and many more I do not have the answer to… Thanks Kram
Hope to see you soon Ms. Happiness…you are rapidly moving up the list of mouths, I mean providers I want to see
If I am talking with a girl that could get to a half hour or hour I always ask if this counts towards my time (they always say no). None of the good girls are ever clock watcher anyways. I was with one girl for almost 2 hours on an hour appointment and when she got back to her car she was probably shocked at the time as I know there was none around but oh well, we'll see if she will secretly hold it against me later.
I first and foremost want to be respectful of the ladies I spend time with. Plus I'm a weekday hobbiest so I generally have work obligations to attend to. For these 2 reasons I stay very tight to the allotted time.
The ladies I share time with are not clock watchers so I hope that "my clock watching" is not perceived as anything other than respect, and not taken as I didn't enjoy my time. If schedule permits I'm certainly honored to share off the clock time but I never would ask or take advantage of a companions generosity. It just seems tacky.
So far I haven't spent time with any clock watchers. I try to due my research well. Read all her reviews. If I get the idea that she is a clock watcher I simply don't make an appointment. Timers, music playlists used to signal time's up, etc. just isn't for me. Doesn't set a GFE atmosphere in my opinion even if the performance is very good during my time.
Now for the other side. I tend to be the clock watcher. To me 60, 90, 120 minutes is just that. And if that's the agreed upon time then that's the agreed upon time. I figure that she has other things to attend to after our time is up. And, as mentioned above by someone else, I feel it's a matter of respect. And, hopefully, that will bode well for getting future appointments.
Having said all that, if she wants to continue on for a bit after the agreed upon time I won't refuse. I just would let her take that lead. The question would then be: What about next time? What to expect? Inconsistency could lead to uneasy moments for either or both
Though I always plan and expect to leave on time, I've had all sorts of different experiences, including unexpected overnights and breakfasts and even an unplanned flight and weekend in Miami with one notable lady. But here's one that stands out.
I booked for two hours with a very highly regarded provider. We ended up spending most of the time talking and laughing and got to bed right at the end of the two hours. I paid $800 for not a lot of nakid time. Although my balls were a bit blue, I didn't resent the experience. I left pretty much on time.
The following day the lady in question called me and offered two complementary hours to finish our business.
I think that puts ticks in all the boxes of mutual respect, trust, fantastic business practice... and now I would not hesitate to do her a favor if she needed it. Makes me hard just thinking about it.
Mindy, do what works best for you. If you have the time to spare and want to go over then do so. If you don't have the time or for whatever reason aren't feeling like it then don't. I think pretty much all guys appreciate it if someone is not a clock-watcher but at the same time we should understand that escorts are not obligated to give us more time and sometimes simply aren't in a position to. It's a nice bonus but should never be expected.
intellectually i know it's a business encounter, and the bottom line is, no money, no encounter. spiritually and emotionally, i know it is an encounter between two humans. and the better the woman is at her business, the harder it will be for me to separate the intellectual, the spiritual, and the emotional. BUT: i also know intellectually that without the money, there's nothing i would consider "real" there. so it is a totally ambiguous experience for me. i find providers far more interesting as people, on all levels, than non-providers. so i have myself stymied, and probably suffer for it more than i realize. that's the reality i've discovered--repeatedly.
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Bottom line, its your business, run it the way that is comfortable and practical for you! Happy Anniversary when it arrives as I always miss birthdays and anniversary's on boards-sigh.. Hugs J.