I know some providers who intentionally do NOT run BP ads or other ads anymore, or if they do it's infrequent. They have all the business they need, so why advertise? Off the top of my head, I can think of one highly rated local provider who used to run BP ads pretty often but I don't think she's run one in nearly a year. Has plenty of business without it.
Once a provider is established and has several reviews in TER (some recent), and at least some ad/web site to provide photos and info... who needs recent BP ads?
DO have a name - use whatever name you like, just have some name somewhere in the listing so that I feel like I'm about to interact with a person and not some free-floating AI with a Google account and the ability to turn of SafeSearch. If you don't have a name in your ad, I can't do my homework, and I'm not going to feel comfortable contacting you.
DON'T expect me to use only one method of initial contact - I understand that you want to keep your hobby life and your 'regular' life separate, so do I. But if you only respond over the phone and not to e-mails or from a message sent via Backpage itself, it means I can only communicate with you when I'm comfortable calling, even if I'm on a device that could call, e-mail, or web surf.
DO give me some sense of what makes you 'stand out' from the crowd -- there are a lot of ladies out there, and while I'm not looking to pigeon-hole you, I would like a reason to call you over the ads directly above and below you. If you've been described as "sweet", "sassy", or the like by other hobbyists, that's not a bad intro. Any safe detail that might identify you as the sort of provider I'm looking for (age, ethnicity, body type, etc.) is good information to share.
DON"T contrast yourself by pointing out the negative traits of other providers - I already know that there are gals out there who use fake pictures, clock-watch, or relentlessly upsell. When you mention that, I immediately wonder what other negative thing you might be thinking about doing that you're not mentioning. If you give me a negative vibe in your ad, I'm thinking there might be a negative vibe in our session as well, and why would that encourage me to call you?
DO provide pictures - I know Backpage doesn't allow nudity, and it's perfectly fine if you don't want to show your face, but an ad without pictures makes me wonder what you're trying to hide, and again, the prospect of a negative surprise doesn't make me eager to get in touch you. Note: an extra pic in your initial response that isn't just a copy of the pic in your Backpage ad goes even farther to get me interested and excited. I understand if you don't like sending pics because some of us beg and beg for more -- just be aware that not providing any pics hurts your chances with me.
DON'T put up cheesy 'disclaimer' images in your ad - I see those and immediately think 'this person wants to give me a false sense of security' or 'this person doesn't know what she's doing'. Maybe I'm wrong, and those images are very important, but they don't fill me with confidence.
DO respond promptly - I get that you may be in session or may be taking the day off and can't respond to an initial request right away, but if you wait two or three days to reply, I've probably moved on and chosen someone else to spend my time with. I tend to be one of those guys who responds quickly when I'm sent a message, and I appreciate that trait in others.
Maybe I'm preaching to the choir here -- not every provider on TER uses Backpage, and the ones who do tend to already be making the kind of ads that draw me in. I just felt the need to share and couldn't think of a better place to do so.
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Pauper
The vast majority of BP ads are run by people you never post on here and even taking into account those who read but don't post, I suspect there are still not many.
But your points are well made and certainly can be applied to anyone's ad, regardless of where it is run.
I truly enjoyed reading what you wrote, thank you for taking the time to do so. This is very good information. I live just south of you and if only we had TER and men took the time to learn. I will be traveling to Minneapolis in the next few weeks, it will be my first visit. I travel with my friend Brandy and we are very excited to visit the Twin Cities.
Have a great day.
ChristineLynn
CourtesanLady.escortfiles.com
DON'T expect me to use only one method of initial contact - I understand that you want to keep your hobby life and your 'regular' life separate, so do I. But if you only respond over the phone and not to e-mails or from a message sent via Backpage itself, it means I can only communicate with you when I'm comfortable calling, even if I'm on a device that could call, e-mail, or web surf.
DO give me some sense of what makes you 'stand out' from the crowd -- there are a lot of ladies out there, and while I'm not looking to pigeon-hole you, I would like a reason to call you over the ads directly above and below you. If you've been described as "sweet", "sassy", or the like by other hobbyists, that's not a bad intro. Any safe detail that might identify you as the sort of provider I'm looking for (age, ethnicity, body type, etc.) is good information to share.
DON"T contrast yourself by pointing out the negative traits of other providers - I already know that there are gals out there who use fake pictures, clock-watch, or relentlessly upsell. When you mention that, I immediately wonder what other negative thing you might be thinking about doing that you're not mentioning. If you give me a negative vibe in your ad, I'm thinking there might be a negative vibe in our session as well, and why would that encourage me to call you?
DO provide pictures - I know Backpage doesn't allow nudity, and it's perfectly fine if you don't want to show your face, but an ad without pictures makes me wonder what you're trying to hide, and again, the prospect of a negative surprise doesn't make me eager to get in touch you. Note: an extra pic in your initial response that isn't just a copy of the pic in your Backpage ad goes even farther to get me interested and excited. I understand if you don't like sending pics because some of us beg and beg for more -- just be aware that not providing any pics hurts your chances with me.
DON'T put up cheesy 'disclaimer' images in your ad - I see those and immediately think 'this person wants to give me a false sense of security' or 'this person doesn't know what she's doing'. Maybe I'm wrong, and those images are very important, but they don't fill me with confidence.
DO respond promptly - I get that you may be in session or may be taking the day off and can't respond to an initial request right away, but if you wait two or three days to reply, I've probably moved on and chosen someone else to spend my time with. I tend to be one of those guys who responds quickly when I'm sent a message, and I appreciate that trait in others.
Maybe I'm preaching to the choir here -- not every provider on TER uses Backpage, and the ones who do tend to already be making the kind of ads that draw me in. I just felt the need to share and couldn't think of a better place to do so.
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Pauper
I struggle with using BP and sometimes because of the negative faux pas you listed. I will keep in mind the positive pointers you laid out in your post for my upcoming MN visit in March!
It would be useful if providers updated their BP ads (or just re-ran them) once a week. Lots of BP girls come and go, and it's hard to know if an ad two weeks old is any good anymore.
I know some providers who intentionally do NOT run BP ads or other ads anymore, or if they do it's infrequent. They have all the business they need, so why advertise? Off the top of my head, I can think of one highly rated local provider who used to run BP ads pretty often but I don't think she's run one in nearly a year. Has plenty of business without it.
Once a provider is established and has several reviews in TER (some recent), and at least some ad/web site to provide photos and info... who needs recent BP ads?
Because we like variety too that's why.
Oh I love all of my regulars, you're all so awesome but someone has to break in the newbies right? If another lady or I can help them get on their way, excellent. I'd rather a reputable Lady like myself be in that position than have them TOFTT & have a negative view about the hobby .
And, not to be argumentative, but... As a "TER-centric" guy myself, I sometimes catch myself thinking that TER is sort of the center of the MN hoobying universe. It most definitely is not, it is a relatively small fraction of the whole scene, and represents only a tiny sliver of the market space available to a provider. I used to travel almost 100% for a while, and in a lot of cities, there are local/regional boards that absolutely dwarf TER in popularity.
My point is I wouldn't say it is simply a matter of starting out on the "B Team" of BP, until you work your way up to TER reviews. I don't think this is the mecca that we sometimes think it is.
My comment was regarding the request that providers update their BP ads every week. My observation was that some providers prefer to post ads on BP infrequently, if at all. And if that's their preference, I don't have a problem with it.
Of course, if a provider wants to take advantage of BP to "get the word out", that's fine too.
I just don't see any reason to push providers to use one advertising channel vs. others. It should be their choice. Some providers like using BP, others find they get more than enough business and variety of clientele via TER, P411 etc. To each her own.
If you are an attractive woman, post at least one non-professional picture with you holding something that proves the pictures are really you, like a recent newspaper or hand written placard or something. It's getting to the point that if you have exceptionally good and attractive pics, we may assume they are too good to be true, unless you are well known.
If an ad does not have a name, it tells me that you don't want to be reviewed. Odds are I wouldn't see someone without a name for this reason alone. If an ad states a price that "starts at" X amount of dollars, I will probably avoid that as well. I pretty much hate a la carte.
I don't really expect these suggestions to be listened to but we are, after all, the customers. And Vorlon's right, most of the BP gals won't read this anyway!
this is a very good use of this format. it is a view from the other side of the glass. If I may add some points.
> narrow down the area you are in. if I am in Elk River and you are Egan let me know that in your add so I do not waist your time. A general area is enough.
> 1000% is not more than 100%. there is nothing more than 100%. it makes you look dumb
> the disclaimer "by contacting me you agree that you are not a cop", that will only invite LE, it will do nothing to protect you. it would be better for you to not mention it.
> asking if I am a member of LE does not protect you either. every undercover in the world will lie. It is not entraptment, it is a sting. If you want to protect yourself let any new aquanience kiss a nipple or the peach BEFORE any discussion of service or any talk of $. LE can lie all day but they can not place roses on the piano. (if you don't know what that means ask somone)
> never never never upsell, we seak you out for comfort and fun not games and lies.
> on the other side of that; you do not need to negoiate, if a putz thinks you are not worth your asking p tell him to go home and rub it himself.
> putting me through a series of hoops will not make you safer, it will make me and people like me give up and move on. the only safe LE is let/require the guy do something that LE can not do. making us call you 3 or 4 times for directions just kills the fun.
> most of us who are 50+ are not and do not want to be computer geeks. If you put me through a sea (or a Lake) of computer social media competency classes I will give up. if respectable generous exuctive gentelman are you target clients please don't ask me to cut and paste the content of information bar to the gig a bite. My staff does that for me I have no interest in learning or being scolded because I am not willing to learn things I have no need to know.
Finally I want to thank all of the wonderful women I have met for the opportunity to spend treasured time with you. Be safe, protect yourself at all times. if anyone does not respect you tell him to buy a blow up doll, you desirve better