Minnesota

Re: NO. EOM
dean2009 5 Reviews 4137 reads
posted
1 / 43

How many of you guys have had an escort flat out steal from you?
In July I had what I thought was a wonderful overnight date on my birthday with someone who is viewed as a stand up well liked woman, she is in the MN top 25. I've seen this woman on a regular basis before scheduling an overnight, and even had a nice double date with her and another great woman in May. I picked her up we went out to eat, she even picked up the bill for my birthday. I had reserved hot tub suite for us, it was great. When we were getting cleaned up to check out she said she was going to stay and get a room of her own to get away from visiting family and to relax over the holiday weekend. We said our good byes and see you later. My first mistake was I didn't check out at the desk, I had only booked 1 night and never gave it a second thought when I left. Later that day she called me to say the hotel made a mistake and had already charged me for a second night because she didn't get to the desk in time. She said she would pay me back. No problem I thought, she’s a well-reviewed woman with the respect of other providers. Also I've seen her quite frequently in the last few month with nothing but good time between us.
The problem came when I got my bill from the hotel, 4 days I was charged! She said she thought changed the room payment and no problem that she would pay me back. HA! I've only asked her twice to repay me, no exchanges, just what is due. She has every excuse you can think of. Now I’m just giving her one more chance to do what is right. If not I’m going to see what I can do about it legally. I’m more upset with myself for getting duped by an “upscale” escort

elanmontage See my TER Reviews 2205 reads
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2 / 43

.. I would like to ask others what they think he should do?  

Yeesh.  If this is true then there are two problems here as I see it.  

Problem #1:  You trusted her too much to begin with and you should have controlled your own check out process attached to your credit card!!!  

And, she shouldn't have broken that trust and she should have paid you back like she said she would.

Problem #2  It would be wonderful to be able to trust one another, truly.  However, true colors come out when such "opportunities" to fail each other arise and fail we do!  

SOLUTIONS:

I'd say give her another chance to follow through. If she doesn't then do one of two things:  If you have email or text or other "proof" to show that she promised to pay you back and doesn't then maybe make a jpeg of those exchanges and share those electronic transactions with the general board so everyone can avoid such a train wreck OR not out her but leave us with this cautionary tale to most certainly control your own credit card at all times at hotel check in and check out!!!!!

 
What say you

DickCurious 1675 reads
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3 / 43

Your review history shows a doubles session in May. One of those two providers is in Minnesota's top 25. Does that seem accurate? Maybe your post will resolve your problem.

TheProfessor 1768 reads
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4 / 43

This is all a fantasy, not everything may be as it appears.  It seams she's told one lie to cover another, I wouldn't expect to get reimbursed for the room. The truth is you supplied her incall thus opening yourself up to criminal charges had she been arrested.  Give her 2 more days to repay you, if she doesn't you should post her info to prevent others from being ripped off.

Most lessons have a cost involved and most indiscretions have their consequences.

bigdell 81 Reviews 1788 reads
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5 / 43

I had a friend once that was going to stay about an hour after I checked out.  When I got the bill I was charged for three towels.  He said "everybody takes towels".  I made him pay me.  And on another subject.  Never leave your room door open or on the deadbolt when you leave.  A coworker did and someone went in his room and made a bunch of long distance calls.  It's not so bad with keycards now, but in the old days with keys they were always hanging in the locks.   bigdell

vorlon 119 Reviews 1804 reads
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6 / 43

You left enough clues in your post that there's only one possible person you are accusing.

Drumsticks 90 Reviews 1807 reads
posted
7 / 43

...when they issue key cards, it's coded into their computer when your stay ends. If checkout time is noon, then at 12:01 pm your keycard will become deactivated and unusable. This would mean that she intentionally had to call the desk and mislead them into believing she had the authority to extend the stay and continue the charges on the CC on file. There at least two laws broken at this point. The sooner she clears this up with you, the sooner this board's members will forget all about this incident and she'll regain their collective admiration. How hard can it be to quickly repay you a few hundred dollars, an appointment or two?  :(

-- Modified on 9/4/2014 11:30:32 PM

belindabell See my TER Reviews 1610 reads
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8 / 43

You likely won't get your money back.  I doubt you have any legal standing.   You were a participant in an illegal activity.  The courts are not going to get involved in helping you to get your money back.   I don't think it wise to go to police either (because you were a participant in illegal activity).  

I'd chalk it up to a learning experience.  

Really sorry that happened.

And no I did not look at your reviews to try to figure out who this is you are talking about.

-- Modified on 9/5/2014 12:59:36 AM

GaviaImmer 1539 reads
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9 / 43

A provider used your room as an incall location after you left presumably calling down to the desk to extend the stay by a night until a total of four nights were locked in. You are lucky she didn't get busted in the process of using your room as a "house of prostitution" and didn't run up additional charges including meals, theft of hotel room furnishings and/or trashing the room.

If we assume this Jacuzzi suite was at a high end metropolitan hotel DT, MOA, Bloomington or airport area at $300 - $400 / night for three nights, it means you are out close to $1500 after taxes.

The hotel room was in your name, I am wondering why the hotel staff didn't insist that you come down to the desk and personally sign off on additional nights or red flags weren't raised when a female in the hotel room kept extending the stay? Granted she could have stated she was your wife but all hotels usually require you to declare the number of people residing in the room for insurance and liability purposes. How many persons did you declare? Just one or ?

I think that she works at the hotel on the side or knows staff who assisted her with extending her stay. There is no other way this could have gone on for three days without red flags being raised.

You do have some options. First call the hotel and let them know that three nights were unauthorized and request a credit. That will trigger an investigation of hotel policies and processes and anyone on staff suspected of assisting a provider will get the boot immediately and you should receive a credit with a stern warning not to visit that hotel again. The hotel might also have video with time stamps from security cameras of both you and her entering and exiting the building which can backup your case. At the very least, she would be persona non grata at this hotel in the future because staff would be on the lookout for her.

If the hotel doesn't comply, you could call your credit card company and let them know that three nights were unauthorized and you would like to file a chargeback request. The hotel management won't be too pleased about this. Your credit card company will require you to file an initial report and might request a police report too because what happened here is identity theft. She stole your identity and impersonated you for three days. If my estimates of financial damage caused to you are accurate, she could go to prison for up to five years. LE also loves these kinds of cases. Think of the headlines, "Local escort charged with identity theft" or "$400/hour escort charged with identity theft." It will be tricky because you would have to admit to soliciting a prostitute. Other factors based on your own personal situation will have to be considered.

Do you have a copy of the registration card and waiver you signed when you first checked in? It should go something like this....."you are full responsible for all charges made to your hotel room during your stay.....yada, yada, yada." The question is what qualifies as your stay? The one night you stayed or are the other three nights your identity was stolen included? You never ever gave her permission to use your room after you left.

Are you a member of P411 and did you originally use P411 to verify with this provider? If it is who we think it is, then she is a member of P411. You can let Gina know what happened and she might get kicked off P411 in no time. I am not a fan of Gina and P411 but you can try.

I would have been smashing down that room door asking for my key back the minute she told me my room was charged for a second night or I would have called the hotel and said, Hi, this is John Doe, I was in Room XXX and have officially checked out. Please find my key in my room. She would have been in hot soup the minute housekeepers went to clean the room. This is not a business that you can trust anyone.

Now your post was good, you would have said so if she was in the Top 20. It narrows down the list to the bottom five and based on your post and reviews, a degree in rocket science is not required to know who it is.

-- Modified on 9/5/2014 3:51:52 AM

brilove See my TER Reviews 1824 reads
posted
10 / 43

Just in case  some don't see that I'm not in the top 25!!! I assumed that when some posted how easily they could figure out who the op is talking about, I had nothing to worry about but just in case ... It WAS NOT me and I haven't seen the op in months!!! Thanks for the emails.

-- Modified on 9/5/2014 5:18:03 AM

TheProfessor 1629 reads
posted
11 / 43

This conclusion uses the assumption that the OP has reviewed the provider in question. Many guys do not review every girl they see, especially their favorite girl.

Derpdydoo 78 Reviews 1506 reads
posted
12 / 43

You can take the Ho out of the street, but, you can't take the street out of the Ho.

GaviaImmer 1854 reads
posted
13 / 43

responsibility of the OP to clear any assumptions or a provider who might believe it is her the OP is referring to, to clear their name. Once you open the barn door, it is like a thundering herd, one person can't stop them. In this case, the OP opened that barn door.

vorlon 119 Reviews 1958 reads
posted
14 / 43

Most guys do not do threesomes or at most very few.  Given the other clue he left about being in the top 25, I think he knew exactly what he was doing.

masonseth69 3 Reviews 1475 reads
posted
15 / 43

I had made a habit of leaving before the provider and never even thinking about the room.  At some point it dawned on me they could charge stuff to the room or keep the room multiple days and I went back and checked charges.  This person didn't even so much as charge a pop to the room and I remember her telling me once how much she just wanted to charge a breakfast once and didn't.

Anyway, in your case, I would the the provider intends to pay you back but maybe doesn't have the money.  She's probably hoping you will except services in exchange.  It's too bad she lied about it though.... I guess that is someone I won't want to see any more if it was me.

brilove See my TER Reviews 1917 reads
posted
16 / 43

For once I'm glad I'm only in the top 40 lol ... But then again I'm happy with my reviews anyway!

TalonTed 92 Reviews 1371 reads
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17 / 43

You people can shut up now.  Why even give her another chance? Two is already one too many...Spill her info her or shut up and cut your loss

Derpdydoo 78 Reviews 1695 reads
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18 / 43

These women fuck guys for money.. Some just fuck a little harder is all..

Robert_BadenPowell 1725 reads
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19 / 43

... when we find a provider who is trustworthy beyond doubt, and totally professional in how she conducts her business, she is to be appreciated as did the merchant who found the pearl of great value.

I feel fortunate to have found at least two providers whom I trust in this way.  I'm sure there are others; I simply haven't had the pleasure of meeting them yet.

elanmontage See my TER Reviews 1804 reads
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20 / 43

nd gems, indeed, Robert, are to be treasured!  There are the wonderful and kind thoughtful men and women on both sides of this realm here and really, as in any real hobby, it is smart to treat this hobby like a true interest and handle with genuine care, like you do, like the rare ones do.  

In any walk of life we will see most people taking their privileges for granted, and the true gems... it takes time to learn how to recognize one and takes time to become one.  

"Good people know about both good and evil: bad people do not know about either."

-CS Lewis

Discernment especially matters in this walk of life where the stakes are always high, and the pleasures are certainly worth it and worth protecting, to stay on our toes matters no matter where we are walking but especially here.... where everyone has the responsibility to be safe, secure, respectful.

You will see that anyone who treats this business as a commodity on either side of the service given or rendered... that they suffer most and learn the hard way.  To treat this as a commodity begins as a subtle evil.  Treasure your heartbeat, your human life, and guard and treasure the pleasure you are designed to experience and share in with others

DickCurious 1480 reads
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21 / 43

The op specifically referenced having a double in May. Only one of those two is in the top 25 plus the other already indicated that it wasn't her.

Posted By: TheProfessor
This conclusion uses the assumption that the OP has reviewed the provider in question. Many guys do not review every girl they see, especially their favorite girl.

Derpdydoo 78 Reviews 1504 reads
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22 / 43

Incorrectly so.. That would mean that one pussy is identical to another.

This is hardly the case.. There about 2 Billion available pussies all unique and never been penetrated by Derpdydoo.. If ever I make a return visit, even less of a commodity, because there is something beyond the "strange" factor of tapping it the first time.

elanmontage See my TER Reviews 1952 reads
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23 / 43

It comes down to simply remembering that this a life on earth and live it as an art and pay attention or live it by pissing on it and piss it away.  

Live beautifully no matter what you do: fucking or not!

Derpdydoo 78 Reviews 1687 reads
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25 / 43

If that were the case... I'd tap the girl a couple blocks away out of convenience or I'd tap the cheapest and repeatedly. This is more like wine, you want to sample a bit of every fine one there is, but, once you have you want to move to the next.

Sooo...YouWanna 1517 reads
posted
26 / 43

The whole thing should have been taken up with the hotel from the beginning, if any of it is true at all. After staying in SO many hotels, and working in a few, I really cannot imagine this scenario playing out like this at any decent establishment...

2+2=4 1701 reads
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27 / 43

hapter 1. Ho's aren't 3-D; they're 2 D like a dollar bill.
You can take the Ho out of the street, but, you can't take the street out of the Ho.   9/5/14
There about 2 Billion available pussies all unique and never been penetrated by Derpdydoo.
These women fuck guys for money.. Some just fuck a little harder is all..   9/5/14

Chapter 2: All Women Are Predators  
I think it's women's inherent hatred of one another.  Be it a ring or whatever. Since it's been so long since I've been "clubbing" I forgot just how catty women can be.  Come into a place with a beautiful woman clinging on to you and watch how quick other beautiful women try peeling you away or will strike up a conversation if they see you apart.  6/15

Chapter 3: Real Men are Predators
Why I absolutely loathe manginas: he other reason I have no respect for you pansies is because you truly don't respect women.  You think they're idiots that really fall for the insincere crap... Or you're a sucker who thinks she's remembering your session while she's servicing customer 4,957.  Either way is the same.. You are an emasculated male.  You pay for pussy, yet pretend it's something more.  6/1

Derpdydoo 78 Reviews 1491 reads
posted
28 / 43

You really nailed it, using my own words!  Thanks for the props!

dean2009 5 Reviews 1643 reads
posted
29 / 43

It was not Bridget. I'm not saying who at this time in this thread.

sweetromantic 157 Reviews 1645 reads
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30 / 43

She does periodically rent hotels on Mon (her hotel night) to get away from her incall and just relax. I Almost saw her a few times in there just to hang out but many excuses later it was never to be. I would assume she would get one around Edina or EP but who knows.

ajp00 2 Reviews 1557 reads
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31 / 43

Luckily the people who can't see the top 100 can't see people's list of reviews either, so you would have never been a suspect.

sweetromantic 157 Reviews 1549 reads
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32 / 43

I kind of laughed at this story. If you would have checked out of the room that you paid for you would have noticed that there was another room on your account (tricky her). She is smart and probably has done this before. She has also moved incalls so good luck finding her. I do love your process of elimination on who it is though. Your last line says it all - you got duped by an escort. Can't wait til the judge hears that one.

BrunoBraun 1199 reads
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33 / 43

Not necessarily,  a really good wine is worth repeating over and over.  I have found over the years that my favorites become daily consumption.

Goodintentions 1428 reads
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34 / 43

Élan I assume you are not the lady in question at all  
But since you feel the need to chime in on this subject not once but 4 times  
I figured I would just show you what you've said,
 

These are the things you said:  

she is not upscale and is trashy.
everyone should avoid such a train wreck  
Live beautifully no matter what you do: there are realized gems and those that are just burnt coal. (You insert smiley face) not such a smiley situation

 You go on to say, one needs experience to spot a gem and to become one
My words: wrong, some people really are just born this way ;)  

 Your words"everyone has the responsibility to be safe, secure, respectful."
My words: So where's your respect Élan?  

Your words:"To treat this as a commodity begins as a subtle evil."  
My words: An evil?! Really that seems a tad judgemental.  

 
Your words: "A gasoline station: you tap those more than once. Commodity, not beauty. Sad truth."
My thoughts: just some more word vomit spewed to make yourself seem insightful and righteous.  

 
First there are two sides to every story...I'm not saying the OP isn't exactly right, but unless we were there we never know...while you say things like " if she did this & if this happened"  
Implies that you, too, believe there could be more to the story or some inaccuracies  
So why in the world post about it & continue to berate the gal....
 

If you are who you project yourself to be You would've commented w/empathy and understanding then let it go at that, or better yet you would've not commented at all.

This is what TER is for warning others of scams & rip offs....
 Leave if for the ones spending money to discuss.
Why do you feel the need to further disgrace your own gender?

elanmontage See my TER Reviews 1332 reads
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35 / 43

If she stole, then she's trash.  Anyone who steals is trash.  Just the way it is.  

-- Modified on 9/6/2014 3:25:07 PM

Goodintentions 1591 reads
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36 / 43

no not hate at all I use to tune into the things that you would say,because I enjoyed your POV.
unfortunately the more you would say the more you would get under my skin and the more I think I've caught a slight glimpse into how you really see things, so, annoying yes, hatred no.
 In fact there's not anyone that I hate.  

 
Posted By: elanmontage
 
   
 If she stole, then she's trash.  Anyone who steals is trash.  Just the way it is.  

-- Modified on 9/6/2014 3:25:07 PM

elanmontage See my TER Reviews 1468 reads
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37 / 43

I'm afraid we've never met and perhaps likely shall not, but tuning in to the real underlying me already, eh?  Hmmmm. Animals have good instincts and the most troubled even like me allot if the time.  That's what's so great about animals, they don't have all this human filtering covering up their good instincts that sure trump good intentions.   But then again, they're meeting me in person.    

Has it ever happened where texting and electronic media took away from the humanness of what is real and true.  
Or when you're mad at something someone texted but then realized later they meant no harm when meeting in person but couldn't believe how insensitively it came across in the virtual world?    

Well.  Must love nature, human and all.   Time for kayaking & the great outdoors and living out the more instinctual part of myself and friends and family today and not face planting at the bottom of a shallow area on the rapids.  

& if you're truly a good man I am sorry we have our human foibles getting in the way.   If that's the way it remains then let's not crash on the boulders of foibles and maneuver around them with grace when coming upon them.

Intrigued42 5 Reviews 1658 reads
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38 / 43

Hopefully, by now, the issue has been resolved and payment received. There was enough discussion here, that even a person that is not currently VIP can do a little searching and discover who the provider is, as I was able to do so without logging into the site as even a basic member at the moment.

I can imagine that the information in this thread alone might be enough to severely damage a successful career but why not write a review of the total encounter? Give a deadline and be prepared to follow up with the review. If she won't make things right, I think you owe to other, potential clients to alert them to this extremely negative pitfall to an experience with her.

I can't see how an attempt to bring LE into it would end well for anyone.

dean2009 5 Reviews 913 reads
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TalonTed 92 Reviews 1118 reads
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