Minnesota

ME Group - What gives
IJMiggs 54 reads
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The girls are only interested in clients who are regulars and willing to purchase upgrades.  Why would a provider waste an hour appointment for a $180 handjob(provider keeps $90) when they can get $400(provider keeps $310) from a waitlist of guys willing to pay FS.  Guys, if you want to see the hottest tickets in town, be prepared to compete with the other guys who also want to see them.  Happy hobbying…

vorlon 119 Reviews 57 reads
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IMhornbody2 45 Reviews 48 reads
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3 / 59

hey guys, I have read this same complaint over and over in the past months and have to agree that it is frustrating but not under any of our control. I have reached out for several (like 10) months with messages to all of these ladies, I have reached out with messages like paige suggested in a past post and taken her advice as to how and what to write and crickets, nothing but callouses on my typing fingers.....never a yes , 2 word response or a no. My question is not to the guys out there that share my frustration and  ghost-like results but for someone to chime in that does see these ladies and comment on what we may be doing wrong. When you (as someone that is visiting any of this group) are with them could you just bring it up as to why they have no control of whom they see and maybe let them know what they may be missing by not seeing a hornbody, a p-reader, a snafu or an OB1??  
 Months ago a provider , not from this group but one controlled by a scheduler, admitted to me that she never knows who she is seeing until they show up. ....sounds crazy to me and if they are full and not seeing new guys then unless the ads on ME are free, they sure spend money and energy to post frequently that they are still looking. Not sure what they are looking for then and it makes me more excited to see the independants out there that are amazing and actually answer and communicate to messages that we send. At some point we can only hope they get desparate and see or just answer some of us bottom feeders !!! It is not like as you watch the review board that they are getting many reviews showing that they are busy with anyone new either.

lockstock 213 Reviews 53 reads
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4 / 59

I've heard nothing back for the last two days.

joebush123 24 Reviews 61 reads
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5 / 59

Just saw Marzia on Friday.

joebush123 24 Reviews 66 reads
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6 / 59

Everyone has to remember, you are booking the room not the girl. Each location has two rooms, and 4-5 girls that share it. There is a limited amount of sessions per day, and you are competing with how many others for one of those session slots?

They post on MNE to let their regulars know who’s working that week. It’s not so much to get bookings from new guys.  

Some girls just don’t care to know who’s coming to see them, they just care about being booked. They just show up and get down to business.  

And some of the guys that do get a chance they fuck it up. I’ll leave names out but one of the girls told me she saw someone new, and he bite her ass so hard he broke skin. Needless to say, that guy was black listed.  

My advice is simple, keep trying. While Paige gave great advice on how to send emails, that advice does not apply here to these schedulers. If you send them a long winded email they will just ignore it. Short and sweet, getting to the point works best. 2-3 sentences is optimal.  

Once you get an appointment you do upgrades and tip well. Be nice, courteous, and remember that for most of these girls, they are new to this. They are young women still finding their way sexually, and most girls just do not like it rough, they need to build a rapport. That’s the number one complaint I hear a lot  from the girls is that guys (especially Asian guys from what they say) get way to rough way to fast.  

And remember, money talks in this hobby. That’s why they are in it, to make money. If you plan on just seeing one girl for 180 every 3 or 4 months, you’re not making the short list. And that’s alright, you’ll just have to find other sources of ladies in this hobby.

jeremyclarckson 47 reads
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7 / 59

That ain’t the reason.  I was full on regular with a few girls back before I was banned.  Fs upgrade all the time, super tight with the two I saw (knew their real name etc).  My guess is scheduler gets bored and watches video of the location and decides who they do and don’t like 😂

lockstock 213 Reviews 49 reads
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IMhornbody2 45 Reviews 49 reads
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9 / 59

I understand your comments in your thread but it does not address the original post which implies that he was a regular (or had at least been seen by the group) and that he tipped appropriately (this statement may need to be better explained though)  
 sooooooooo p-reader, please explain if you comply with the rules of which Jmiggs speaks......and if you do i still believe we are being heldup by schedulers.
 
It makes some sense but how do the ladies that have never seen someone know what they are going to be like or buy ?

closedcaption 3 Reviews 51 reads
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10 / 59

My guess is there scheduled already has a list of 30+ guys that come in one plus times a month and they are not taking on new clients. once you drop off there list it’s unclear if you can be placed back on. I’d wish they post if they’re taking new clients or not, it’s would help a ton

longnamesuck 56 Reviews 52 reads
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11 / 59

Is whoever responding, responding from a different email?  

Just want to verify. Thanks!!

joebush123 24 Reviews 52 reads
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12 / 59

I shoot off an email this am to check in with the scheduler and they replied back from a different address with an explanation for why. Did you get the same thing?

wolvesman986 34 Reviews 81 reads
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13 / 59

What happened to the good times when everything was hush hush? As I remember the only way you could get banned was being disrespectful. I’ve never had issues with this group I get responses with referrals within minutes, all the others I tried take forever to respond. If I couldn’t get in I’d just go elsewhere. I doubt it helps blasting their info to the public. Id assume both parties just want discretion. I see this issue pop up every month just to see the same people whine about not getting let in… my best guess is the more you talk about them the less likely you are to be let back if they can figure out who goes by what handle.  
I tend to stay away from board posts or “exposing” what they do out of the plain fact I’d like to not be on their purge radar. It doesn’t seem like rocket science. When I’m seeing a provider I’m not concerned with how many other girls are there or how many rooms are working at once I quite honestly keep my head down, have a (hopefully) enjoyable time, don’t lowball providers and leave. No wonder you have such terrible chemistry when you bombard them with questions they according to some on here wouldn’t even know the answer to. Some let this get way too personal when it’s a fantasy.  
My advice: search for a new provider if you’re getting no response and hope they feel safe seeing you after watching you publicly slander/talk about other providers.

SageX6 5 Reviews 52 reads
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14 / 59

We can all postulate on what might be the case with one agency, however, I think Miggs makes a good point. If the available inventory is static, and the demand is high, it seems reasonable to assume they would cater to high value clients. Furthermore, if you want to retain your talent, you want them making the best possible money. Hence it seems like a good business would be ask your talent who they want to see and who they’re making really good money on.
Also, I’m sure Client maintenance plays into this; previously screened, limited no shows, change of scheduling, and possibly even discreet entry and exit.
The agency runs a business, and from a business standpoint, it makes sense to me.
I believe it’s very realistic to presume that there is competition to see providers.

vorlon 119 Reviews 57 reads
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15 / 59

The reason for this board is to share information.  This is a very legitimate topic for conversation and has been ever since this group(s) appeared and the way they do business became known.  I'm sure everything is great for those who have no problem getting scheduled but the issue that keeps showing up is guys who were regulars all of a sudden can't get an appointment for no apparent reason.  It's natural at that point to want to ask other guys if they know what's going on.

vorlon 119 Reviews 47 reads
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16 / 59

We know the girls don't do the scheduling so how do the schedulers know who regularly gets upgrades and who doesn't?  We are also talking about people who were regulars to varying degrees who abruptly cannot get an appointment anymore.

SageX6 5 Reviews 53 reads
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17 / 59

They communicate non stop thru out the day via text. Those of us familiar with using the agencies are aware of this fact from first hand experience. I’m well aware of who and what we are talking about. This is not high level intel…..

wolvesman986 34 Reviews 49 reads
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18 / 59

I get the frustration but it could always be talked about over PM. The info shared on this board I’ll say this for every hobbyist is very much appreciated when it comes down to scams, stings, and people/places to avoid. At the end of the day they’re going to resume business with or without your opinion. For example for all the business owners if you have a menace in or around your company you rid of them. I don’t think the business will ever be known, every board is a different assumption. If the way they did business was known, we all wouldn’t be creating boards month after month seeking info from mongers who are on their good list. I don’t blame them for not wanting new clients when they have a good list of frequents. Look at the commotion on the board over the years. To be fair it’s hard for me to believe this banning happens out of the blue, I’ve heard my fair share of horror stories from regulars from all around terrible hygiene, colostomy bags, leaving shit streaks on the bed, bloody loads, bumps and rashes and even getting interrogated because of stuff like this all over the boards. I’m sure if you ask any regular of yours she’ll have plenty to share. I can’t imagine what would be said about clients if they had a chance to review us. Sounds like crickets. Has no one ever stuck a couple fingers down there and made sure you don’t stink like shit before seeing a provider? I don’t think money talks at this point. Try treating providers respectfully? Personally I’d never want an employee knowing all my books, payroll or why one gets a promotion over another. It all seems like common sense to me to keep your head down and enjoy yourself but we may have a few pin heads in here with little to no comprehension skills. If I’m next I’d simply seek other options.  
Any providers that are reading this, please feel free to chime in Id love to get any insight on why one would be ghosted.  
PM’s are open

-- Modified on 4/12/2023 9:54:56 AM

lockstock 213 Reviews 48 reads
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19 / 59

1) Of course any provider can get VIP on TER and use it to screen clients. Even if you don't give your handle away it doesn't take much of a brain to connect clients to handles after they've been around a while or written a few reviews. Says one provider to another, "Do you remember a guy who...?"  "Yes I met someone like that." "That's the one."
2) And of course they review us and more power to them. They would be stupid not to. As soon as you see anyone in a group you have begun to establish a rep. I've heard some of the stories Wolvesman refers to -- the latest one being someone lying face down with a shitty prolapse in front of a brand new provider. Do you think he ever got another appointment?

joebush123 24 Reviews 45 reads
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20 / 59

Posted By: lockstock
Re: "If they had a chance to review us..."
someone lying face down with a shitty prolapse in front of a brand new provider.
Yea I heard that same story. Talk about gross.

cleavers 52 reads
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21 / 59

So true, LS; yes, they do. I think they should; I have nothing against them reviewing clients. Some guys don't know how easy it is to get yourself blacklisted. I'm not going to post anything more

One of the worst-case scenarios that a companion told me about. She gave the client a BJ, and he had a bowel movement while she was down there. I can't remember if it happened to her or a friend.

CuriousBoy95 26 Reviews 58 reads
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22 / 59

I don't think that's the case. I just saw one of the MNE girls this week and she said its been kinda slow lately, and some days she doesn't even work if she doesn't have a booking the next day. My guess is the group is being cautious and doesn't want to raise any suspicion in the locations. I'm surprised they've been in the current locations this long. I guess I've been lucky not being put on the blacklist, and I mostly just do the $180 session, with occasional upgrades.

wolvesman986 34 Reviews 50 reads
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23 / 59

For the sake of the possibility of her touching me after him… I sure hope he didn’t.

vorlon 119 Reviews 56 reads
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24 / 59

So why are regulars who do ask for the upgrades suddenly get blacklisted?

vorlon 119 Reviews 53 reads
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25 / 59

It's difficult to use PMs unless you know who to ask or at least have a good idea.  And often the person asking the question isn't the only one who can benefit from the answers.

They can do business however they see fit, that is their prerogative.  But, FWIW, what we see from this business is quite unusual at least in my experience.  It was bound to leave those abruptly blacklisted wondering why and looking for answers.  Some of them were going to look for their answers here.  If the business owners hadn't anticipated this before, they should be used to it by now.

Yes, some of this is undoubtedly due to badly behaving clients.  I've had numerous conversations with various providers over the years about some of their bad clients so I do have an idea of the ground that can cover.  But I don't think for a moment that comes close to explaining all of this and that people keep bringing this up here.  And so, I expect this will end up as simply the latest thread on this topic and it will happen again.  It's a discussion board.  People will talk.

snafu929 18 Reviews 66 reads
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26 / 59

....taking anything miggs says about MNE gals should be consumed with at least a grain of salt or perhaps even a handful.    Nobody has been a more zealous supporter of some but also a very vocal opponent of a possible competing house.   As said before, he's either an outright shill or has some sort of vested interest (recruiter?) in one or more of these brothels.

vorlon 119 Reviews 56 reads
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27 / 59

And then there was the one guy with a fairly extensive review history at the time who reviewed this one provider and what he described was his rape of the provider.  That one didn't stay up long but it was the worst thing I've ever read on here.

IJMiggs 66 reads
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Living in a town of only 13,000 people doesn’t give you the right exposure to how things in the real world work.  For example, how things happen in not even major city like Minneapolis is like New York City compared to Brainerd.

I really just wish you would stop with the hateful attacks and ridiculous accusations like running a brothel or competing against other brothels.  Maybe just reflect on some of your own forum statements when it comes to targeting the desperately stranded, hungry, and cash stricken souls who seem to amuse you.

vorlon 119 Reviews 43 reads
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29 / 59

There you go again.  You regularly act like those of who have been around for a while and have had plenty of time to see all the crap you have put out on this board for years will suddenly forget your past behavior.  We won't.  I'm sure one of us can track down the thread opened last year just to give examples of your poor behavior and add to it so those who missed it the first time can see it.  Or we can make a new one.  Either way, your reputation will keep following you.

IJMiggs 59 reads
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30 / 59

There you go again too, Vorlon.  Your reputation is that of someone bored and lonely enough on this forum that literally responds to EVERY thread often times with pessimistic thoughts.  I’m sorry you are this way.

joebush123 24 Reviews 51 reads
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Coming from the guy who’s fetish is going after girls that didn’t graduate from high school.  

We will never forget who you are.

snafu929 18 Reviews 64 reads
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...more of a serial predator/control thing he has.  At best, it's just a low hanging fruit thing for someone who's got no chance for any real interaction with a female peer in civvie life.  We know based on many of his past comments/arguments how triggered he gets by confident women simply engaging in board discussion.

joebush123 24 Reviews 45 reads
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33 / 59

Wait what? Someone raped a provider and than reviewed it?

IJMiggs 51 reads
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34 / 59

Then presidential candidate Donald Trump made the high school diploma joke during his first campaign when running for president talking about the poorly educated.

vorlon 119 Reviews 51 reads
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35 / 59

That is just your incredibly stupid attempt to obscure your behavior; something you didn't even resort to until months after your original post when you realize how badly you had blundered and shown your true nature.  Go crawl back under your rock.

IJMiggs 59 reads
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It was a joke referencing Don the Con and I have stated that a half dozen times on here.  

Just for the sake of conversation, how would you interpret these statements about providers?

“Watch out for the black girl "stranded" on the side of the road with that "fuck my ass" look...she'll be a trap.”

“Wait until about the 20th of the month when their EBT cards are depleted and drag a $50 bill thru the Walmart parking lot.”

Manwithmanyhands 23 Reviews 46 reads
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You only said it was a joke when multiple people called you out on it. Were you joking when you sent PM threats to fight me because I called you a transphobe?

TalonTed 91 Reviews 62 reads
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IJMiggs 59 reads
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Nice try pulling a play from Rocketman’s playbook.  What ever happened to Bundy?  

I pulled up the message I sent you and it said:

“I have zero problems with TS providers. How dare you accuse me of being a transphobic hater you piece of garbage.”

I fully support transgenders and have stated this on the forum.  Now go post some Spider-Man strips or whatever you usually respond with.

-- Modified on 4/19/2023 8:21:11 PM

snafu929 18 Reviews 45 reads
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There's at least 4 guys on here then that the Migger has pm'd with invites and threats of violence.  Did he also tell you he knows who you are and will out you if you don't stop using the TER MN Board?

IJMiggs 72 reads
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I don't know to whom you are talking about taking vids and I won't mention any names but the one(s) that I may have seen certainly look like the providers were fully aware and approved of the filming.  When I see a provider smile or wink at the camera, I know she knows she's being recorded.

lockstock 213 Reviews 56 reads
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vorlon 119 Reviews 46 reads
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You can say it as many times as you'd like but your original post speaks for itself.  Nobody believes you.

Manwithmanyhands 23 Reviews 61 reads
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I haven't posted a Spiderman meme in months. Those really struck a nerve didn't it?

lockstock 213 Reviews 52 reads
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Miggs that's not what he's talking about.  surely you can figure that out? say something helpful.

snafu929 18 Reviews 51 reads
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...hidden recorders.  I can see where a douche like you would conflate the voluntary recording between two consenting adults to hidden cameras illegally recording johns and hookers engaging in illegal activity.  

That said, imagine that you've voluntarily given up your PII to the brothel only to find out they've captured digital images and/or video in full contact boom boom!

Looks like a perfect way to become a walking, talking annuity!  

vorlon 119 Reviews 58 reads
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Miggs?  Say something useful?

vorlon 119 Reviews 49 reads
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Yes.  I don't remember the handle but I think it was someone visiting who made an appointment with a local provider.  When you read the description of the encounter, it blatantly described how he kept forcing the provider to do what he wanted and against her will.  The review wasn't up long; in fact the whole reviewer profile was swiftly removed.

IJMiggs 53 reads
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Those are all your words.  It’s not so funny when you are on the other end of the recording, huh?

I have no idea if Talon has any evidence of filming but find it hard to believe.  Why would an apartment film their illegal business activity?  If they got raided and LE found recording equipment or recorded footage, that would mean not only concrete evidence but also additional charges they would face.

IJMiggs 60 reads
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Struck a nerve?  Post Spider-Man, Batman, Iron Man, or whoever.  I really don’t care about you or pay attention to your negative existence on this forum.

Just don’t LIE and say I sent you a PM(s) threatening physical violence when I did NOT.  In fact, I was insulted that you even accused me of a transphobe and expressed my reaction in the PM response.

snafu929 18 Reviews 56 reads
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....NEITHER of these quotes were about providers, lol!  The EBT quote was a sarcastic (and probably off color) response to a Monger looking for any possible action in BEMIDJI.  Your selective outrage is laughable!  

You're fucking salivating for any possible support from the ladies because the dudes in here fucking hate you.

But then again, maybe thru the lens of your character you create your own dots to connect;

Depleted EBT card =  Vulnerable woman = possible opportunity = potential provider (for you to impregnate and/or turn out)

IJMiggs 77 reads
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You were clearly responding to a legit forum question and in turn insulting sex workers in Bemidji with your derogatory remark “wait until about the 20th of the month when their EBT cards are depleted and drag a $50 bill thru the Walmart parking lot.”

I only have a problem with you and two other loners in here(you know them).  I get along great and have a network many guys I message regularly.  

You claim I am looking for support from the ladies on here?  I find that interesting since according to your recent posts, you claim I am probably part of one of the groups running girls?  Which is it, Mr. Brainerd?  

-- Modified on 4/23/2023 10:51:22 PM

Manwithmanyhands 23 Reviews 49 reads
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54 / 59

Just waiting for the random YouTube link.

IJMiggs 57 reads
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55 / 59

I would love to read another one of your reviews having this happen😆😆😆

snafu929 18 Reviews 54 reads
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...providers.  Now the rest of my statement;

" You will find plenty of spandex wearing baby mommas that would be more than willing to wrestle with you."

My theory that you are an extreme shill for one or more brothels OR involved somehow (maybe as a recruiter) still stands.  Who knows, maybe you get paid $15/hour to wash the splooge out of the sheets?  It wouldn't take high IQ to run a brothel but it would require more than what you've got upstairs so I doubt you're the main pimp at this point.  

What you are hoping now is that any provider reading this will see you as an advocate for all sex workers.  Other than the youtuber guy, you've got NOBODY that is willing to condone or tolerate what you do.  If you have this so called "network" over on the porn board, it only exists because they haven't seen you for what you really are.    Obtaining sexual services or pleasure through manipulation is wrong and when you get off on that behavior, it's really just fucking evil.  

You put YOURSELF in the predator class by what YOU'VE told us that YOU have done and what really gets your rocks off.  I'm just the random guy out here that has chosen to call you out on it.

IJMiggs 60 reads
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Are you suggesting that a "Depleted EBT card =  Vulnerable woman = possible opportunity = potential provider" or not?  

And are you suggesting to give them the $50 bill if they can't catch it trying to chase thru the Walmart parking lot?  By definition, an escort is someone who engages in sexual activity for payment.  Therefore, you are talking about providers.

Anon1872878 64 Reviews 62 reads
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This doesn’t compute.  I was a weekly/sometimes bi weekly regular with Maya, Delilah, etc and for black listed.  Still no clue why

longnamesuck 56 Reviews 64 reads
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Delilah was great and she was my atf. She just stopped suddenly.

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