I was really pleased to see the honest review by a hobbyist of a provider that has made 10/10 routine. I'm sure he will be badgered to change his review, pull it, or have it pulled in some way....but seriously a 10/10 has become a marketing strategy on the review board. I know that I often compare my review to those and adjust my numbers accordingly. Sure a lady can be eligible for 10 but is every session a One in a Lifetime experience? I know that that designation by TER is unrealistic in the normal world and I tend to ignore it to some degree and base my assessment on the quality of the providers in the area. the same is true for appearance. A 10 for appearance here may be an 8 somewhere else or a higher somewhere else (even though a ten is the highest possible). I admire the hobbyist for the courage to write an honest review that reflects his assessment rather than going along with the crowd. I would personally rate the provider in question higher from my experience but I have also felt pressure to go along with the crowd. That's my problem, not hers. She is a very good provider and very attractive but in no way perfect! I am going to recommit to making an assessment of the numbers in a more thoughtful way. We all suffer when numbers get inflated and obviously feel disappointment when a reviewer misrepresents or exaggerates the numbers. If I have a great experience, I want to please the provider. I'm sorry for my part as I look back and see that many of my 10's would realistically be better represented by a 9. Conversely, to see a provider that exceeds our expectations based on reviews can be quite a day brightener. I recently saw someone averaging an 8.5 in appearance according to half a dozen reviews and was blown away by her absolute beauty.

Now your feeling GUILTY? This board and the reviews are all fiction, right? So what difference does it make if you give a provider a 10 or an 8? Its all fiction. So, with that said, I have had wonderful times with the provider I think you are talking about. So my 10/10 score I feel was justifyed. And no, she did not ask me to write a review and give her 10s!! I have seen her more than once and she always brings her A game. So I don't know what the reviewer was talking about.

I have seen hundreds and hundreds of providers over the years and have only given one, single 10 in my entire hobbying career and it was to Hilary Holiday, the same, beautiful and caring lady you guys are dissing. If you've chosen to inflate your reviews in the past for whatever reason, don't presume everyone is so shallow. I review accurately and honestly because I know other hobbyests are depending on TER to get the facts, not someone else's overblown fantasies. I also know the ladies depend on us to rate them fairly and truthfully since these ratings seriously impact their livelihood. And BTW, I rated Hilary a 10 because she really, truly and honestly provides the experience of a lifetime. Hopefully, she'll never see you again and that will be your loss, certainly not hers.

Jesus Christ, it's just my opinion. Get over it! Obviously 30 or 40 guys disagree with me.

Rather be a white knight than a A%^hole!! Mr Agenda.

Well stated, Sir-knightly.

The overstated over inflated review scores on TER(in general, not just specific to this case) are a valid point, even if a very redundant one.

But I don't see anything courageous about someone writing a contrarian review. Helpful, possibly, depending on one's perspective, and fair - if it is accurate - but hardly worthy of a medal.

I can't be convinced that there is anything courageous about typing shit on internet forums from the safety and comfort of one's own environment under an assumed identity...no that does not take balls, just a keyboard and a modem.

And I was LMAO @ at the later comment regarding the sacrificing of the review posters board popularity to write the review. For fuck sake, what a sad life for anyone who actually values his "popularity" amongst a group of anonymous whore mongers.

If we assume the review is truthful and accurate, then he did his part and good for him, that's what this site is for. But no need to blow sugar coated kisses at his butt cheeks. SMH

but only if I can chain smoke before, during, and after.

If your smart enough, you can read between the lines...............you wrote it, so.....look.

I haven't had the pleasure of meeting the provider we seem to be talking about. My question is how much does chemistry between you and a provider count. I've seen providers that had a lot of 10's and I just didn't connect and I've seen providers who had mostly 8's that there was a good connection so I felt they deserved a 10. The older one gets the more chemistry has to do with it. If the mechanics are 10 but no connection what do you give them?? To be honest I usually just don't do a review.

For chrissakes, guys, give the dude a break. Nothing of what he said was him being an asshole. Since when is opinion not welcome here? And he's justified in saying we should be cognizant of the reviews we post and how it impacts other's decisions. And chemistry is a huge deal. If it's not there, the session can be significantly impacted and it's okay for someone to provide his honest take of his experience. That's what this forum is about, right? Now let's all just relax and let people have their say.

Read and reread you post and find that you're either oblivious or callous. You had some reason for the post but choose not to share.

Did you read and reread the review in question? It's salted with anger and obvious misrepresentations, so what does that say about the less obvious?

I've read and reread the reviewers reviews. He needs his DFK to avoid going limp. He didn't get his DFK because he was smoking in the parking lot. (I'll have to admit that's conjecture, but a very, very good bet. Smokers and drinkers are generally great deniers.). Guys, we all should know that if our breath stinks, the session may lack chemistry or worse, particularly if you know the provider has an issue with it.

Back to Idm51560, if you don't have an agenda, then you should apologize for inadvertently calling her out. If you do have an agenda, why not share?  If the worst case agenda is true, shame on you.

...in you and provoked a deep, reflective soul searching of your own behavior?

Whoa Dude. That's a pretty heavy trip, man.    

I don't even wanna know who else you draw your inspiration from!


'Relax....it's just sex!'

I did not call you an asshole, I called you an A%^hole. you may insert any letters you want to. It does not have to be ss's. But, if that is what you want, so be it.

You wrote:
"And he's justified in saying we should be cognizant of the reviews we post and how it impacts other's decisions. And chemistry is a huge deal"

I suggest:
We should be cognizant of the POSTS we make and how it impacts others ...

Does anyone think is problem with the OP is the discussion about chemistry. C'mom, mplsguy, think before you write with your angry face. The post about chemistry and ratings is a guise for an attack, that much is transparent to all but the slowest among us.

But again, the question is why the attack?

Thanks Fair-and-Balanced!!  I'm glad someone else sees his agenda too!! Well stated my friend.

Nothing but people with Aliases badgering everyone lately.  Wish the mods would clean it up a bit.

Thank you for inspiring me to laugh my tail off just now. I really needed that. You must be Nostradamus because you're reading into my mind to dig up an "attack." This whole thread has been a joke and I'm ashamed of myself for contributing...

No kidding...

May I recommend:  http://webapps-prd.oit.umn.edu/courseinfo/viewCourseGuideTermAndSubject.do?institution=UMNTC&searchTerm=1119&searchSubject=PHIL#PHIL1001

Phil 1001 Introduction to logic

And yes, this one is just for fun. What narcissistic part of you got the idea that the "attack" comment was about you??

Hilary is NOT a 10 in terms of looks...she's an 8 or a 9...not a 10.  Her service, however, is at least a 9.  Not sure how she got all the 10's...I tried to give another provider a 10 and was shot down for the same services that Hilary gives.  Hilary is a 15, however, in terms of class.  When I was unable to get hard for a second round she asked if I wanted a refund from two hours to one.  That's CLASS!  But the guy above has a right to his opinion...and unless he is lying it should be welcome.

ldm, Bet you didn't think you would walk this far out on the plank and have all those white knights poking at you.  Its pretty obvious that it isn't wise to even hint that "the provider in question" may not be on her A game 100% of the time.  Remember, this provider has Knights SOOOOOOOO White, that they stay up late, just to be the first to shill for her on Shill Friday.  (see link below)

I know that guy thinks he is bragging, but I wonder if he knows how many of us are laughing at him.  I guess he must, because even that whitest of white knights is too embarassed to use his real screen name, and used an alias.  What a hoot?  

Before anyone beats up on me, let me disclaim that I don't know Hillary, have never seen Hillary, have no comment on her skills.  She may be a 1, a 10, or a 20 for all I know.  But, for sure she is a 10 in attracting dedicated white knights.  Good For Her!!!!  

Yes, NEWS FLASH, Im human. But in this industry, being human doesn't cut it with the rates we accept!!
I do NOT like being the topic. I do NOT ask for double tens. I may ask for a review now and then, but what business doesn't??  We need them as providers. All businesses need good reviews.
I obviously didn't click with this individual, but did not know it was THAT bad. I will certainly send his money back to him for the time spent if he will allow me to do that.
I have learned my lesson to NEVER see smokers.....Im just toooo sensitive to it and I sincerely apologize. I dont think the other things written were fair or accurate, but if he didn't like me, there's not much I can do about that. I thought he was very nice. Im sorry.
Im fuckin outta here....Milwaukee, here I come.

Hilary

It's the dividing line between the 9-10 range and lower scores.

because I'm not out to hurt anyone but as a previous poster comments, one can not even suggest that a certain provider without mentioning her name in the post is off her game one day. When Friday comes, we'll see which "white knight" gets to declare his undying love for the 10/10 lady. I admire the review who was willing to buck his popularity on the board by writing an honest review.

"I was really pleased to see the honest review by a hobbyist of a provider that has made 10/10 routine." For your information, I reflect on my behavior and attitude every day. It's called being an adult and taking responsibility for your words and actions. My conscience is clear.....

The topic is a fair one but always a subjective one as well.  I just don't see any point in linking it to a specific review as that does come across as criticism of the specific provider.

As far as all those who jumped to her defense and went after the OP, you might think about this.  I don't think you are doing her any favors.  By itself, it is one poor review and likely will be soon forgotten.  The main effect of making such a big deal about is that people will remember it longer and it will likely leave a poor impression of her with more people even though it was other people's arguing about it here that caused it.

She's not the first highly rated provider to get a poor review and she won't be the last.  She earned her reputation by providing quality service and this doesn't change that. Let it go guys.

idm, your pompous self-righteousness is disgusting. I do not post using an alias (though you're so all about yourself that you probably didn't check to see that before you implied it). My reviews are entirely honest, so your insinuation that a person who gives a 10 is dishonest is a pathetic reflection of your own personality. I've only given one 10 ever and it was to Hilary who entirely deserves it for looks and performance. So, after you check my reviews and see that Hilary is the only 10 I've ever given, I'll look forward to your post saying how much you admire me for my honesty ... even though it didn't hurt anyone. Good luck. You need it.

I personally think you're a great lady and agree about never seeing smokers or men with rotten teeth. I spend the time taking very good care of myself so should they.
I think any 10 you've gotten is well deserved.
if you don't click you don't click. Nonsense to even post it here IMHO.

LIP, can I fuck you for FREE??? hahaha

LMAO at the "blow sugar coated kisses at his butt cheeks" line.  

adsum...  
As a non-smoker who is both allergic to smoke and highly sensitive to it's after-effects, I truly do understand why that's a line in the sand that you may need to stay behind. (I already learned from experience that I need to be direct about my own preferences in advance for the exact same reason.)

I do get ldm's point in the original post about the need to keep reviews balanced and honest based on individual experiences, but you are plenty strong enough to only take what lessons you need from it, adapt (as appropriate) and move forward with a positive attitude and a smile on your face.

This is not the first time. If I remember correctly, it happened last year as well (see link below). When someone gave a less than stellar review & she went berserk. Her white knights pounded on this poor guy for an honest review.

She has not gone berserk. The gents that love her (& there are many) are the ones that came to the plate on her behalf. I have seen her express an appreciation to them for that. (which should happen) Nothing more, nothing less. I think you need to quit "smoking" whatever has got you so confused here.

is giving me a massive headache. I have not been laid for over a week and I am going to get real grumpy until Saturday, so lets lighten up a little folks.  

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The only drama i've seen in all this has come from the original posters who are being so judgmental and defensive. Just re-read Hil's posts and see only elegant responses from a lady whose feelings have been hurt from be dissed.

Im at the airport and Im heading into the bathroom with my vibrating dildo now!
This endless thread about Hilary Holiday is TURNING ME ON!!!

Gotta go......Im sooo wet!!

the OP is trying to stir up trouble by posting this so all would know and draw attention to ONE mediocre review out of MANY. Wow!

Get a LIFE and do something besides camp out on this board and spew your little "know-it-all" attitude.

Thanks for posting to give the ladies another excuse to refuse to see you!

We all know what you meant.  Why be a prick, and back down now?  Doesn't anyone believe a great lady can have a bad day.

I was going to stay out of this train wreck but I think a couple of points need to be made.  While the OP did not technically link to a specific review, it was a pretty thinly veiled reference based on review scores that narrow it down quite a bit.  I think if you want to make a point using some particular review then have the balls to provide the link.  

The OP's self criticism for being guilty of inflated reviews is so disingenuous that its laughable.  Somehow that justifies his credibility for preaching about it?  I think its pretty obvious that there is some hidden agenda going on.  Perhaps knowing it would invite white knight posts and draw undesirable publicity for the provider?  I think that was fairly predictable.

This one review isn't going to cause a provider with her record any harm.  Do guys feel some pressure to rate her 10/10?  Maybe but not because she is going to expect it.  More likely that they want to see her again and don't wish to be embarrassed by rating her lower than others.  Do providers have an "off day".  Yeah, but with her rates, it would not justify giving her a pass with the review.  I don't think thats the case here anyway if it was actually about the smokers breath.  If thats all it was, then I think its possible both parties could have salvaged the situation.  He could certainly have prevented the issues with more attention to his hygiene and she could have suggested some mouth wash prior to continuing.

I totally agree with you Rusty!!