Hang in there!!  These guys are so good about helping a girl out when in need.  Hope you get at least your car back.  Madison

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A little over a year ago a gent told me to check TBD. So every fews days for a month I went to the site to see if it would be something I would be interested in.  I saw fighting,ignorance, and bashing of proivders and told that client no thanks I am happy and I don't want to be a part of that.  I feel sorry any new providers thinking about coming on to this site.  Think of the way you guys have treated Moll,nicole, and Liz lately.  Think of the whacko posts about wierdo things?  I know my irish girlfriends have been reading the boards for quite sometime and were not impressed.  They are having fun with greek guys right now.
 Some of you guys have also scared off SOME of the old posters(the bighearted guys) so it not just the women you may scare off but guys as well.  I know some of the new guys(last six months) that have become the new regulars we never see posting and said that after finding a couple proivders they liked have not come back.  Lets bring the love back please

I don't want to get off on a rant here but...Catherine you're exactly right.  It seems that the same inconsiderate pricks who show no sympathy when something bad happens to someone are the same ones who do all the bashing on the board.  It makes the ladies want to leave and not come back, which sucks.  It also gives us good guys a bad name becuase we are lumped into the small group of A-holes who don't know how to treat people with respect.  I don't know Liz but hope she is ok and that everything turns out fine for her in the end.  For me it gets old to come here and see all the back biting, and not in  good way, that goes on.  I have thought about doing what Catherine says and leaving and just sticking with the couple of girls I'm comfortable with.  But, alas that is not going to happen, so all the jerks out there are just going to have to deal with it and put up we me.  But that's just my opinion...and if you don't like it bite me.

Good to have a guys opinion on this.  Sometimes the bashing of the providers is downright scary......I wonder why there is such a vengence to the girls.  Catherine is right alot of guys and girls will not post here anymore because of the attacks to the providers.  We are here to converse with you guys and have fun outside of our regular hours spent with you.  So Im confused why is this going on.........any enlightenment?

I for one really enjoy having providers input and being able to exchange. It's clear some people do not want to share this board with the providers and think that should be "guys only". So bashing the girls is a way to scare them off. I really do not understand why one would want that. Probably those who think the ladies are there to "spread them" and keep their mouth shut except for bjs.

As far as I'm concerned I think it's a great opportunity to have some insight and feedback from the ladies, which is difficult to get during a session. And it's really helping.

Anyway please do not all go away!

Be safe.

About the only thing I can come up with is that the bashers are looking for attention. Might be a good idea not to respond to the real ignorant stuff. I'm new to this board and have become hesitant to post anything humorous, knowing that my sense of humor has a sarcastic edge to it. Might be funny in a different setting, but alongside all of the negativity, it could easily be misinterpreted.

However, there is always a silver lining. Negativity on the boards does tend to bring out the best in other providers. Today I had a nice exchange with a provider from the Toronto area who I will be seeing when I start on a project up there next month. Her response to some negative comments on the general discussion board prompted my note to her.

I'm not sure why I do this to myself...  I've always tried to be a good citizen on the boards, but I somehow end up in the middle of some controversy...  Sometimes it's coincidental, like Nicole or LOL, where I just happen to be in a thread that ends up going south becuase of others.  Sometimes I inject myself into a bad situation, only to end up with the bad vibes somehow associated with me.  That being said, here I go again, donning my asbestos undies and jumping into this one.

Be careful about assigning too much "vengence" to the guys on this board.  The nature of boards are that bad situations always look much worse than they are.  At the time I'm writing this, Liz's post has 433 reads.  Assume that many are duplicate reads, and that about 200 people have read her post.  Out of that 200, only 2 said anything negative.  Those are good odds, my friends.  Show me any group of 200 people in any setting that only has 2 bad eggs, and I will join it, no matter what their cause.

What makes it look worse is the silence of others--there are zillions of us out here who feel genuinely bad for Liz, and a few that will probably help.  But when someone posts a mean-spirited post, there's usually little but frustration to come from countering it.  So most people simply think to themselves, "what an unlubricated buttplug that guy is" and silently move on.  To post a counter-flame in support of Liz only fans the flames.  If people weren't looking for a fight, they wouldn't be posting "fightin' words."  Others, bless their hearts, actually extend help to Liz privately or anonymously, without publicizing it here--a noble thing, but their efforts also go unoticed by us.

I genuinely feel for Liz, and honestly I hope that tomorrow is a better day for her.  But the numbers show that world is not as bad a place as we sometimes think.

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Two words: teenie weenies.

If you look at any forum where people can post anonymously you will find cowards who post garbage just to get attention.  It's not a big deal and has been around since the old dialup bulletin boards.  Any 13 year old with an internet connection can do this.

The bashing is by no means limited to boards of this type.  Just check usenet.

Sound wisdom Mr. Kahuna.