Ive had TER change MY APPEARANCE and HIS experience ratings .....is this true? I had a gent give me a ten ten.....in both..... APPEARANCE and performance!!! TER changed the ratings on BOTH...
TER chose to change it to an 8 because...why....??? because I dont give ANAL, etc, ???
I am a GFE....I am NOT PSE....and many gents do NOT want PSE!!!! Why do I have to give anal, PSE, etc, to GET A 10 ???
In HIS expectations, IT WAS A 10!!!!

I submitted a problem report on it and never heard back from anyone.  

I'm a massage gal but the person who came to see me gave me a 9/10 and TER published it like that then a week later pushed it down to an 8/8. Then a few weeks before I got a 8/9 and TER published it then knocked it down to a 8/8 a month later (I know there are a few gents who can vouch for me that they saw that it before it was changed and commented on it in sessions).  Someone told me at one point "TER DOES NOT change anything on a review including the ratings/appearance" when I questioned it before.  

I don't think it should matter WHAT services you offer.  They are all listed so people can see what you offer before they read your reviews/ratings. Why can't someone be a 10 in either catagory? Is it not possible for a woman to be a 10 if she is simply giving a massage with some "perks"?  In addition, can those "perks" not be so good that they deserve a 10 in performance?

It really makes no sense to me.  Does anyone have some insight on WHY this is the way it is? I'm really hoping that someone does so I can stop bugging about it everytime it happens to me.

Thank you in advance!

XO
CG

"In order to keep our performance ratings consistent, we set up the following system: An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum.

This does not mean she earns extra points for offering the service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is performed during your session with her. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she offers, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score.

If your review rates a provider higher than her maximum score, the score will be adjusted down to her maximum."

So, yes TER can and has changed review performance scores; I had it happen one time to me.  I find it annoying and think I should be able to score based on how much I enjoyed it, not whether or not she offers services that I or someone else might not even be interested in.  But that is how TER does it although they are not consistent in my experience.

One important thing to note is the maximum depends on services offered.  One time I submitted a review where the details disagreed with her profile (she had opened up her menu) so I had to exchange several messages with TER before they updated her profile and approved the review.  I suggest you make sure your profile is accurate; you might be getting scores knocked down because of that.

I had also thought at one time TER did not have the max performance score limit of 7 on non-FS escorts; i.e. erotic massage providers.  However, I don't see that anymore on their review guidelines so maybe they changed that.

I have no idea why they would change an appearance score.

in my experience......several times.....I have submitted problem reports and it says the report will be deleted after 30 days.  And that's pretty much all that ever happens to a problem report. Our chances of getting things fixed are about a zero.    

You on the other hand will always be a 10-10 to anyone who knows.  

...........CL4.....

However performance ratings get changed quite a bit.  The reviews need to specify what happened in the juicy details for justification of the score.  I've heard complaints about this for years.  Charlotte, do you think massage only should rate 10 for performance?  The mentality is that the high scores should be saved for providers that offer more than others.

I think clients and providers should have conversations about what detail the review should contain.  Even if there is no partaking, it wouldn't hurt for the review writer to mention that the provider offered something but it was mutually agreed that the client declined.

a problem report can be used effectively to shape up an inaccurate or out-of-date profile. I corrected a couple things in the "services offered" part of her profile that had been bothering her and ... hmmm ... yup, the corrections have stuck.

Using a problem report to challenge what TER does with the number ratings is likely futile, though. I've read in several places that different people handle different things and won't overrule each other. So the problem report guys won't reconsider a decision made by the review-reviewers about subjective issues. They stick to profiles and other objective factors.

That said, Hilary's profile makes clear there is absolutely no reason she couldn't have a 9 for performance, and lowering the appearance score is not just petty, in her case it's wrong, wrong, wrong. Sometimes it seems like TER punishes the reviewed if the reviewer chooses to flout the rules - possibly on the assumption that she must have asked him to do it? I'm certain Hilary never did that, she sure didn't do it to me.

would be rated on this site but I could be wrong.

Massage with extras are and there are several gents who specifically seek out that type of service.  It would be nice to know that they can see who the "best of the best" are in the "Massage with Extras" catagory instead of a whole lot of ladies with a max of 7. They really might be the best of the best for what some gents are seeking.  

It just seems like "Massage Only", Massage with Extras, GFE and PSE should all have the ability to be rated whatever is deemed appropriate.  Someone looking for PSE, for instance, could search PSE girls.  Someone looking for Massage ONLY could search that, ect.  

Does that make sense?

Either way.  I know it does no good to voice my opinion butt there it is anyway

I agree.  
In the review we list the activities enjoyed with the provider.  The performance rating should reflect how well she performed the activities in the review, and not reduced because of items not on this providers menu.

I have had TER do this to my reviews as well.  It's one of the things I hate about this site!
For some reason TER admin is not responsive to the users of this site.

You are right on Miss Charlotte! You should be able to get the highest scores for the service that you provide and you providr an awesome service!

I will agree on TER docking the performance from a 10 according to rules, but NOT the appearance.  Appearance is subjective.  Beauty in the eye of the beholder???

You can see a slow, sensual blonde and then a spirited red such as Hilary and yet while they differ in both appearance and performance they both can justify a 10/9 to me.

Hilary should always get a 10/9 by TER standards.  If not, it's probably you, not her.  And TER docking both is pure bullshit!!!  Whoever did it has never been with her.

Puck?????

why do you use this site?  If you don't like it then don't visit this site to read posts, post your own thoughts, write reviews or read reviews.

Don't put TER in your address bar.

Use some other site, or better yet, create your own.  How many users complain and then complain that the complaints resulted in nothing?

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Personally, I agree that you should be rating the whole experience and let it supplement the content of the review.  Giving a girl that rocked your world the same as an fairly good provider with an open menu is exactly the inconsistencies TER wants to avoid, imho.

I guess that's fine if that's how they want to do it but I feel they should at least include multiples as a big + modifier - much more than "really bi".  For other guys rimming might be a plus.

BTW, Hilary, reading your VIP reviews there is no question you are a 10.

In performance. I believe that an 8 (went the extra mile) can be done with a hand job.

As far as the OP, I seriously doubt that TER lowered an appearance score.

there should be catagories!!! Let's change this! hmmmm.....but how? haha

I have no idea why TER might change an appearance score - and I also don't know that they did.
A hobbyist might tell a lady that he gave her a 10 - but TER changed it. Easier than saying 'I thought you were a 9 even though I know you want me to think you're a 10' That's just one scenario.

I personally favor - and have advocated for - doing away with the appearance scores. Lovethatsparkle, I have no doubt that you feel ms sparkle is a 10 - but to make the blanket statement that everyone should agree that she is a 10 is a bit blinkered, don't you think? I was at a meet n greet last year and after chatting with a smoking hot blond spinner I turned to a hobbyist and said something to the effect of 'now there is a 10'. He said she wasn't really his type and pointed to the bar where a 40-something lady sat - well turned out, in the 160+# range and somewhat matronly looking (in my opinion) and said "now that's a 10!".

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and isn't it grand that there seems to be a peg for every hole. I am for more interested in the 'are the pictures accurate' rating than the numerical appearance rating. I'll make my own mind up as to what I'm attracted to, thank you very much.

As for the performance scores, if you do cbj, no greek, don't dfk and aren't bi (or willing to fake it, as is more often the case than not) then your profile reflects that and a 7 score is a 10, for your service level.

If one says that those are not fair criteria then I submit that a hobbyist could very well rate a provider a 10 simply because she gave him a better hand job than he'd ever had before without even taking her clothes off. How would you feel to get the same rating when you do so much more?

The rampant 'grade inflation' has truly taken it's toll, ladies take a 8/8 review to mean they are ugly and a lousy experience when in reality that score is nothing to be ashamed of. I get a little weary of the prima donnas howling like harpies because someone dared tell the truth - in their opinion.

I'm not pointing any fingers here, because as you all know I hobby here on the West Coast - I have no direct knowledge of the local MN talent. Not that that will keep folks from being insulted by my opinion. Oh well.

your reviewer can persist with a problem report and get it changed back. I've done it. He can point out that your reviews show that you've earned 10s for appearance and 9s for performance (the highest you can get with your profile under TER rules- unless you change it to really bi w/out doing greek).

BTW- I didn't review when I was in MN, but you were a 10/9 for me both times. You were also my 1st, and I'll love ya forever for being such a great into to the hobby! *

I don't know what average you get in looks, but I doubt 10 is too off, you're beautiful.

The reviewer can submit a problem report too.  

This happens every once in a while to everyone, Hilary.

Doesn't mean it's perfect and doesn't mean we should just be quiet and not say anything about what we don't like.

IMHO, I know Ms. Sparkles personally and *heart* her positive attitude!  
(See our recent HOT 2 girl review! Sorry, I'm pretty proud of our amazing review and time together.)

I tend to agree with Hilary on this one. If a man's personal experience is "over the top" for him, why can't it be scored a 10/10 and left alone?

She's a great person and easy on the eyes. Not to mention, SUPER fun to be around.


*hugs*
Whitney

If the review clearly states that it was only a hand job.  Why are you not aloud to rate her on the skill of her hand job?

Why lower her performance just because she will not do anal?

Any rating is subjective to the reviewer and should not be changed by TER staff.

This could be a great useful site, except for the staff and moderators.

I would love to see TER have a different performance scale for massage-only ladies. The higher the number would be an indication of the extras that were offered during the massage session.

There always seems to be an abundance of 411's on massage ladies because the extras are always so diverse. I think the Massage Parlor area on TER needs to be completely revamped and updated to include and highlight independant massage ladies and introduce a massage-only performance scale.

As for TER changing numbers:

I have had my massage-only performance numbers lowered from 8's to 7's on two separate occasions. While the number itself does not bother me (since the reviews are well written and give an excellent description of my session) it does irk me if someone is doing a quick search on TER and looking for a certain level of performance from a provider. The 7's lower my average performance score and can be misleading with regard to my offerings.

Just my 2cts.

that there are massage oriented websites that offer info for the massage only market?  Maybe the complainers should complain on those sites.  Why should hobbyists looking for full service have to weed out and wonder which providers have more expanded menus?

I think basketball favors tall people.  That does not mean short people shouldn't play.  But it also means that they are not going to lower the baskets to be 4 feet off the ground.

We are not necessarily trying to COMPLAIN. It is just good to be aware. If something is not accurrate, it IS ok to say something. That's how things evolve and become better.

1) The OP is FS provider and she was unhappy at having scores changed
2) TER does cover erotic massage so that makes it a legitimate topic for discussion IMHO.  They even have on the reviews page an entry for massage reviews.  I think it would be helpful if they screened the reviews so that erotic massage reviews only show up under that section
3) I really doubt TER wants to lose customers to another site.  If we didn't like TER, we wouldn't spend time here complaining about what we don't like; we would simply leave.

If I made the rules (I know I don't, and it's not my site), the escort reviews MUST mention some FS activity or it would be moved to the Massage Parlor reviews and only VIP users would see it.  I also would limit all hobbyists to one 10 for appearance and one 10 for performance.  After you've scored one 10. the max score would be 9 for all other providers reviewed, so she would truely be "one" in a lifetime.  I know it will never happen, because too many site users love to shill too much.

I disagree with point #3.  As usual, you are generalizing about how people think and what they will do.  I'll wait for your reply since you have to have the last say on everything.

It's perspectives like that MR. Alias, being the sole reason I had mine pulled & went UTR
until it changes and until they revamp it so it's more understandable for everyone.
Most gentlemen see a 7 they think "OK It's safe but, Not outstanding.
Despite what it actually says in the review.

I also think Massage only ladies should be able to get 9's 10's.

There is always going to be trouble, when very specific objective ranks and ratings are applied to what can be
an extremely varied range of activities that consenting adults can engage in.

More categories, to help group some of the broader ranges of activities would help, deciding where to
draw those lines and what matters most to hobbiests looking for different levels of interaction still seem to fit into the overall definition of TER.

It is The Erotic Review after all, not the 'PSE review', or the 'does ANAL review', or the 'really Bi review'.

As long as it fits inside the definition of erotic it shouldn't need to meet some very broad predefined (and objectifying) criteria to achieve a max positive review rating.

Not everyone clicks with everyone they meet, but when there is chemistry any encounter can become a
memorable event. A well written review can reflect this, but the objective scores may not since the
criteria are so broad, causing anyone using the site to do research to miss wonders based on a score.

Reading is fundamental as always, you have to do more than search for an objective performance score
to find what you are really looking for!

TER adjusts review ratings all the time, on EVERY girl and EVERY reviewer.  They have things they look for and if it is no in, or hinted at, in a review, getting either a 9 or a 10 on performance is very difficult.

It is simply how this site is.  The are arguments for and against this policy, but it is is what it is and that is how it is.

On the other hand, I have NEVER heard of TER changing a rating on looks.  I have never, ever had TER step in to tell me a girl was not as beautiful as I thought she was.

If someone is claiming to a girl that TER has done that, I find that VERY difficult to believe.  

Having recently seen Hilary I can say that, under ANY scoring system, including TER's, she rates a . . .

But I don't see why calling #3 a generalization makes it wrong.  Yes, some people just like to gripe but I don't think that applies to most.  Or am I missing your point?

TER started lowering looks scores on occasion about 2 years ago. I have no idea why, but it's their site so we play by their rules.

. . . I could be wrong.  I often am.  But I notice that this post is "anonymous."  Which is fine.

But I truly do not think they lower looks scores.  

As I said, I could be wrong.

But if I had to choose between two options, I would land on the guy being mistaken, for one reason or another, about what looks rating he gave a lady.  

In my book, and girl with 7/7 or above is worth seriously considering to see if she is your type.  Girls I know other guys would think are only a 7 I fall all over.  Conversely, girls of a certain type that many guys go ga-ga over and view as perfect do zero for me.

It is all so subjective, that I really think TER lets the law of averages settle looks ratings.

Pictured below, my "niece."

It has not happened to me personally (that I know of) but when I hear girls from New York to Califonia complaining about it I do give the reports some weight.

It crossed my mind that the men could be mistaken or just telling a white lie, who knows?

As far as the alias, I almost never post under my escort name unless announcing incall availability. I like to keep as low a profile as possible.

Have a great weekend!!

There are those fellas out there looking for more then PSE and desire a genuine, sensual experience....and speaking from experience Hil, the way you approach your craft is definetely more then a 10....although it's been a while.  Different folks desire different...um strokes...and you can never please them all :0.