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Re: I'd call them...
Good question... I wonder if I'll be on the list. 
Or grown woman...
Who are these hobbyists and providers that some of you call 'trolls'?
A lot of them have many reviews and are genuinely trying to put out helpful information here as well as asking the probing questions that need to be asked at times for all of us to hobby safely.
Isn't that what we all want, to hobby safely?
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...attention whores. Kind of ridiculous for a grown man, though.
Or grown woman...
interesting that lately a number of threads have been removed after honest challenges have been posted. It seems to me there are some in here who think theirs is the only point of view that should be allowed.
Good question... I wonder if I'll be on the list.
You best get your points across !
There's going to be that red letters dude posting shortly!
If you ever attended a Dale Carnegie course, you'd know that there are effective ways to get points across and to motivate better behavior in others. Slinging insults is not a staple of the Carnegie method of winning friends and influencing people.
Dale Carnegie was a wise man.
There are many views and philosophies other than Carnegie's, and one needn't attend a seminar to learn. Sit in some board rooms or on the golf course where real deals take place. Or on the lake or a social event. Ever notice how much they (the Carnegies, et. al.) talk sometimes without really saying anything concrete or substantive? Nice rah-rah team! speeches. Yes... there is a lot of good and worthwhile material there, but sometimes the old PowerPoint with bullet points just listing the facts is best. Succinct. Depends what you want in here. Do you always want fluff? Never want dissenting opinions or points of view? That's where the rub comes in here. Too many people view an opposing view as an attack or negativity. I don't really think I am going to persuade anyone in here, and I don't care to. I'd rather just state facts and my opinions. If you like 'em, fine. If not, I won't lose any sleep over it. I'm not here to make friends, I am not selling anything, and I am not trying to influence anyone. So the Carnegie approach really is useless for me in this setting.
You attended a Dale Carnegie series?
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He sure didn't live in a single wide trailer. Oh wait, that's someone else.
the single wide burned down, or wait no I heard the carpet needs a good cleaning.
No point in blaming: they have no shame.
No point in naming: they like their 'fame.'
No point in shaming: they like to maim.
No point in taming: they like the game.
No point declaiming: blood's the game
No point.
You repeated it 3 times.
It is fine to ask honest questions. But when someone else posts an opposing view and they get tarred with terms like White Knight, the post becomes trolling.
Anyone knows that there are a lot of angles in this business, more than others. If someone says a girl was late, fine. If another guy points out that it happens to be snowing, that is also fine.
I got my posts deleted on another thread because I told one of the trolls what I thought of his behavior. The trolls posts were removed too, so I was successful. The Admin should remove more posts that are just stirring up shit. This might help bring the girls back to the boards.
I'd say any post the veers too far from the terms Hobbyist and Provider is suspect. Whore, John, Hooker, WK etc. are often just ways to upset people.
Also, we should stop accusing new posters of all being LE. That is no way to welcome new members to our community.
You detest the term white knight even though it applies, but you have no problem calling people trolls.... really???
You really think you are the sole arbiter of what should and should not be permitted on this board. You don't want to be called a WK, but you have no problem calling people trolls because they don't conform to your ideas.
Look at your list of bad terms, "Whore, John, Hooker, WK etc." I don't see troll in the list. I guess your name calling is A-OK, huh? How about a little moral integrity?
Did it occur to you that perhaps that posting was removed because of what YOU wrote? I doubt that thought ever crossed your mind, did it? And in that particular thread, the discussion was really over. The woman introduced. Questions asked. Questions answered. Done. Then you came to the scene and started calling people trolls. You contributed nothing positive or substantive to the discussion at all. So before you start point fingers at everyone else maybe you should do a little introspection.
And who the hell is accusing every new member as being LE. The only one I see discussing that is you.
In wrecking everyone's conversation. Bravo! You could have just decided not to click, or respond, but your sense of "justice" just became part of the problem. Carry on...
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