For my part, I meant the last 2-3 years, at least in my observations. I got the impression, perhaps wrongly, that he meant a longer period.
avoided tc area for some time due to covid 9 and high crime. decided to rent a room in my old hotel, I was sick of my small town amps, had no trouble getting providers to come to me. problem most wanted a deposit. I hope this is not the new normal ??
frankly, the pandemic brought A LOT of bad apples out of the woodwork on *both* sides of the equation. We've all heard the arguments debating the pros and cons of deposits so I'll spare any regurgitation on that front.
However, I think most of the local providers I know do require an outcall fee ranging from $50 to $100 depending on the location within the metro. This fee is used to cover the cost of a ride share service to and from the outcall location (those prices have risen quite a bit) or if they are using their personal vehicle to reimburse for time to travel, fuel, parking fees (if required), etc.
I know money is tight, especially in the winter and after the holidays, but if a $50 to $100 deposit worries you, then I recommend sticking to providers who do not require them.
Always smart and thoughtful responses from Paige. Very appreciated input.
No deposits are not the new norm and do not not fall for it or any other prepay scam. Just read a review yesterday, reviewer was ripped off no show after paying deposit. Even the websites warn you against it, yet we still get dummies who do it and providers trying to push this nonsense.Use your big head fellas.
No deposits are not the new norm and do not not fall for it or any other prepay scam. Just read a review yesterday, reviewer was ripped off no show after paying deposit. Even the websites warn you against it, yet we still get dummies who do it and providers trying to push this nonsense.Use your big head fellas.
Also I touched base on this in another thread where a provider talked about an OF account and dont try to "make a date" on OF.
If when talking to a prospective provider and she pushes you to talk with her on OF... THAT IS A RED FLAG. Because you cant talk about meet ups on OF. It is against the rules and regulations of the site. Which some adds take you to a twitter feed and the only contact is an OF link. So again another way to weed out ROBS or others.
Ok numbnutz apparantly you got all the answers, and more money than brains. You see a pic of a hot chick you'd like to meet, and feel compelled to send her some money on PayPal with the hope shes gonna show up, fool. I've been in the hobby for years and never paid a deposit, and never will. I have no problem getting a date. Actually theres very few gals who ask for deposits, I avoid them and find a legitimate provider who is not into the deposit nonsense. If your a chump go ahead your gonna eventually get burned.
I think you're exaggerating. Those things were rare until the past few years. Furthermore, there are many clients who have seen reputable providers for many years without paying a deposit because they are reputable clients.
They said: "Deposits have been common for a number of years"
You said: "Those things were rare until the past few years"
Number of years vs. past few years... sounds like you both said the same thing to me.
For my part, I meant the last 2-3 years, at least in my observations. I got the impression, perhaps wrongly, that he meant a longer period.
For my part, I meant the last 2-3 years, at least in my observations. I got the impression, perhaps wrongly, that he meant a longer period.
I spend little time looking at touring providers so I will take your word on that. Nonetheless, some reputable providers do keep deposits when they should be funded. Not many I daresay but the GD board thread that BigBoyPants linked to is far from the first time I read a tale like that one. I've also run across a couple of twitter threads in recent years regarding deposits where the most alarming things was the number of providers whose position on deposits was that once the money was in their hands there was no way they were giving it back regardless of why the appointment didn't happen. The risk may not be great but it is there.
I've started to spend a little time on there looking around and following a few gals and what surprises me is the amount of pure vitriol some of these ladies have for not just would be clients, but men in general. Perhaps I've landed in a bad snake nest but wow, some of them are militant in their anger.
It’s sad when someone feels that way in general about their clientele. I have to wonder what experiences led to that viewpoint. I’ve worked in customer-facing jobs nearly my entire life, and there were a few customers I couldn’t stand to work with because they acted unprofessionally and were generally assholes. But I put up with it except in a couple of cases where the customers became downright abusive, so I reported it to my management and they took care of it. But in general my customers have been great to work with and I’ll do anything for them (within reason!). If a provider has to deal with abusive clients, and I’ve heard from some providers that they do, that could easily lead to negative opinions about clients and even men in general.
But I’m fortunate to know and have known many providers who love seeing their clients (except the occasional asshole) and love men in general. And those women project positive attitudes about clients on Twitter, if they’re on Twitter.
I've seen that as well. I think it would make for an awful way to make a living when you hate the people on which you depend.
I agree with what you are saying and have noticed this more and more. Some of those companions have many followers; not sure if these are real clients or some guy in his basement. But for the most part, they're lovely. I was going to start a thread about this, but...
One companion talked about men's feet (WTF), and she doesn't like positions where she can see them; some others agreed. That's what I want to hear when we're between the sheets. My canoes are 16EE, so you know, LOL.
Here's is another example, but it's more extreme. I went on an extended date, and I sent her some pictures of myself. We met in the lobby, and it was shortly after that she wanted me to get a complete makeover. She saw my photos before I left; I've looked like this for at least 20 years, and how to explain my change to my SO when I get back...maybe it was damn sun or I was drunk, LOL.
One good thing about your “ Twitter Trot” is that you probably have learned of a few which to avoid. Through the years have gotten to know some very fine women and have become close enough to have contact separate from the hobby while keeping the lines from blurring when it comes to their work. That being said have been with with some and seen and heard the crap they put up or do not put up with and no wonder some get jaded. Have seen more then one for months after they were “retired” and felt they enjoyed the time together.
It does seem though overall that respect both ways has diminished and feel it started sometime before Fosta /Sesta.
Have had a few recently retire and Yes am not finding replacements or trying as hard to do so as have some friends who are truly friends .
So never say never because any "reputable" provider can go rogue at any time for any reason.
For what it's worth: I don't contact providers who require deposits. While I may see a use for them with extended (6~8hrs) or FMTY dates, I don’t for a 1 or 2 hour date.
And yes, I've provided deposits a few times in the past for extended dates only.
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So, she has trashed her reputation over deposits, its well (?) known … and people are paying her a deposit, despite it apparently being well know that she is trashing her reputation.
Did you read the part about due diligence? Her reputation isn’t that good any more then is it??
Some people are fucking idiots.
Here's one. A few years ago I wanted to meet with a very well known For years provider in the TC area. 2hr appt, she required a 300 deposit and to boot, required more personal info than I was comfortable sharing. Given her rep I complied but told her up front that my ability to make time for this was very limited and it needed to work, she assured me there would be no issue. Day of appt, just before I was to leave for her place (I have a long drive) she says she has to cancel and we can reschedule the next week. I stated that would not work and it would likely be another month before I'm free. I asked that she please return the deposit and we will catch up later. She said she'd keep it until we meet. I asked again nicely, twice, crickets. About a month later when I contacted her to set up our appt, she had vanished and to this day is nowhere to be found.
When you send money to people/business in advance for anything, consider it gone. If they have something come up, need the money for something else or simply decide they don't want to perform the service, you are not going to see anything. Rep or no rep, those are the facts. It was not life or death for me but did require considerable time planning, she also had my personal info so moved on. Since then, if a deposit is required in any arena I X it off the list because its not worth the hassle or risk.
Those that want to pay deposits or give our personal info have every right to do so. I'd guess most who are ok with these things would never admit they got smoked.
WC, I hear you; I'm almost positive about who you are talking about. I tried a few times to set up some time, and it didn't work out. I got the idea she might have been a little *.
One thing about Twitter is you can get a feel about a future time together. I saw her friend on a crime report site a few months ago and was arrested. So, I was wondering about both of them.
Sorry about the loss of Franklins and time spent on getting situated for the date; I've been there before, brother. For me, it seems to be some local fare. I never had any issues in other places?
They were prepaying because she had a great reputation. She has 6+ years of great reviews with an overall rating of 8+. I saw her last summer and had a fantastic time without a deposit. Then in late Sept - Oct she started offering a prepay special in various Cities. Once she received payment she ghosted on them. Maybe it was her retirement tour, way to get out, who knows. The moral of the story is a reputable provider is only reputable until they are not. My review list isn't long, I'm sure you can figure out who that provider is/was.
Do not even have to guess who and from what saw on another board picked up a nice retirement bump on the way out as well as a complete loss of reputation.
The sorry part about that is a large portion of the guys if she was in REAL financial straights would have gifted the funds to her.
Yeah it's sad. I had someone reach out to me about my experience with her. I said it was great and wondered why he was asking, reviews spoke for themselves. A month later I noticed her P411 profile was gone, came here and read the fallout.
I have never paid any type of deposit or given real world information.
I’m fairly knowledgeable about how this works, and by and large have been very successful in my endeavors.
When you question Ladies who want real information and deposits they come back with they need to be safe and don’t want their time wasted.
Funny, that’s exactly how I feel…
Now I will say that if you did a FMTY appointment a deposit could be appropriate, you are specifically arranging for her to be with you, and not just seeing her while she is visiting town.
Any ad from someone who doesn’t tour here regularly that says TBD, or has a date set far ahead, is most likely gauging the market to determine if they think it’s worth it to come here.
Nothing wrong with them doing that, but that there should be a red flag for you as a consumer about deposits, there’s a thread on the general board about that specifically right now, and guess what? He got ripped off.
You can inquire, I’ve done it myself, and when the time is closer I’ve scheduled, but I’ve never paid a deposit.
Unless you are are dealing with a $400+ hour smoke show provider that sells out everyday, a deposit should not be required.
I totally disagree with you.
Deposits should NEVER be PAID unless it is to a well reviewed 400 plus smoke show provider and then only if you are comfortable. You option on them is Yes or No -
Sending even $10 dollar bill to the unreviewed gals on many of the other sights is a crapshoot as to if you will ever meet , what you will get if you do, and who you will meet.
If I were to send a deposit to someone it would be some like Paige but not sending a picture of my ID.
Would though show at appointment my ID matching my P411 account if that was my way of being screened.
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