"Although it's good to reminisce and might be better to provide a suggestion of someone that isn't retired".
Ok then. What's your suggestion?
February 2nd - Groundhog day. You will live this day over and over (thanks Bill Murray). Each day you expect to wake up to February 3rd, but it's still the 2nd. Everything plays out as it did the previous day. But you can affect some changes in the routine. Which provider would you choose to spend this endless day with and why?
Since we're talking about an extended time period, I would would probably choose Coni/Kelly, who retired years ago. Why? She was an Energizer Bunny when it came to sex. Literally wore me out. Plus she gave the best BJ I have ever had. Sometimes she would use ice cubes, or mints or a string of pearls to provide additional stimulation. She was more like a friend than an escort. During one session at her apartment, we had a few drinks and she cooked me dinner in between rounds. 3 O's plus dinner and drinks. 6 hours in a "1 hour session".
She was sweet as can be and sexy as well. Loved to cuddle.
Well that's great and she sounds cool and all but she is retired so we cant enjoy her skills now.. Although it's good to reminisce and might be better to provide a suggestion of someone that isn't retired
"Although it's good to reminisce and might be better to provide a suggestion of someone that isn't retired".
Ok then. What's your suggestion?
If spending the whole day: Andrea Stone. Her combination of great conversation and relaxing B2B techniques are made to savor.
If each day brings a one hour encounter: Tandee for sure. SO much fun packed into an hour session.
Andrea Stone?? talk about a girl you pay top dollar for because she knows she is hot. I will choose ladies that show the sensuality back to me: Jersey, Ana Marie, or the lady I was with friday night - if I could relive that night for the rest of my life I definitely would.
Obviously a YMMV situation.
To live a whole day with me over and over you'd want to start with my lips on your cock as your alarm clock. A vigorous workout with push ups and pull downs, squats, explosive repetitions and a shower of cum on my tits. Then it's time for your massage...happy endings are better in Jersey. then you go off to work or play for the day and I send you sexy naughty texts flirting with you, calling you back to me like a siren. You walk in the door and I am naked on my hands and knees, ass up...head down. We eat a sexy meal with great conversation and lots of eye contact and innuendo before I tend to the dishes naked, bringing you a beer while you watch the game. I give you head while we snuggle on the couch. Your team wins and you are sooo happy that we go to bed and you are ready with a hard on from the game or me, I don't really care...just give it to me Daddy. You fuck me to exhaustion and we do it all again and again and again,
I love Groundhog Day!!!!!
I would definitely need to eat my Wheaties and take get a good night sleep before trying to keep up with you for an entire day.
Wow...Jersey that got me hard just thinking about it.. hopefully that fantasy includes ethnic(Asian, Black or Latino) guys like me..?đ.
Also it is very hard to watch the game while someone sucking your dick.. but I would try!!! It would be way better than having a beer or popcorn!! Lol
Or give me LunaBella any day.. first because Andrea Stone wont see ethnic guys, a provider told me that her handler/boyfriend is a known skinhead that wont allow her to see non-white men. Sad. So for my groundhog day i would have to go with Luna she is morr cheerful and accepting, you only have to try to have enough in the tank to keep up with her!!!
Only handies for mein fuhrer for her!
Too bad she won't wear my balls on her nazi chin.
Are providers public servants? Are they expected to be accessible to the public? If so, ask yourself if they operate under a premise that follows code similar of those who work directly or indirectly for a government agency. What happened to this sub culture?
I'm sorry. With how bad this site is structured, I'm not sure who you are replying to. But if it is in regards to Andrea and Skinhead, maybe tides have shifted where being a racist is a shitty thing to be no matter what sub-culture? I understand preferences, but dating a skinhead makes someone a racist.
I'm not sure what code you are referring to, you mean, The Federal Civil Rights Act?
Again apologies if that wasn't a reply to me, but by all means defend skinheads.
To clarify: I do not advocate for racism, C, and my comment should have been a new thread. I hope you are doing well. Sorry for the confusion. In relation to your comment: I would caution on the use of information obtained through a secondary source about another person's private life as it can be challenging to verify it unless it is common knowledge. The information in your posts regarding a community member does not sound like common knowledge as extremist groups/delinquent subculture members are generally not part of mainstream culture.
I'm at my baseline, thanks for asking, I hope things have been well for you. Thank you for clarifying, this site has a bad forum system. I truly apologize for insinuating you supported racism, I jumped the gun. After reading your comment, you are right, I should not put much stock in heresay. It's more than likely my frustration of not getting a reply from Andrea is the reason why I had believed it.
Alieen, can i first say i am a fan of you!! Your reviews are phenomenal and I have had u on my mind, would luv to set up a date with you!! So excited you responded..
handzy hugs 2u!!!
Also you're right, the info about Andrea Stone is second hand, I have not verified it. However I do trust the provider that told me, she mentioned it without malicious intent, only to enlighten me as to the circle Andrea Stone keeps, and how racist in her circle may influence or limit the type of clients she is willing to see.
I believe her, she is credible she shares clients with Andrea Stone. Actually one of her clients was turned away at Andrea's door due to a misunderstanding regarding his race.Â
But in all, the conversation did not really focus on Andrea Stone. She was enlightening me on how to avoid racist providers in general... to not waste time trying to get a session approved or scheduled... when it would most likely be a negative experience.Â
I considered myself an educated hobbyist but I guess not..Â
First she said beware of providers that have 'lists' of ethnicities they will not visit with.. for example when you readÂ
"I do not see men of (Asian, AA, Indian....etc)" indirectly they are rejecting based on skin color.
She also mentioned coded phrases, or word pairings that racist providers use to avoid lists of ethnic subcategories.Â
Instead they will say something like "I do not see Asian and, or AA clients" the pairing of Asian and AA clients really means that a provider will not see any client with a skin color typical of an Asian all the way to the skin color typical of an AA. So basically if your skin color falls in between that of an Asian to an AA they will not visit with you. It is a coded way of saying "White Clients Only".Â
I have seen this word pairing both in Minnesota and across the country and have always wondered why providers paired Asians and AfricanAmericans as groups they will not schedule with... I truly had no clue until she explained it.Â
She even mentioned that some clients have pressured her to only see 'White Clients' because they think there is something dirty about sharing time with a provider who also shares time with clients of a different race.Â
In all it was a thought provoking enlightening conversation that helped me understand how real race and racism plays a factor in many ways in sex work We ended on the irony that sex workers fight for equality and inclusiveness while some sex workers reject and discriminate against clients.Â
Alieen, can i first say i am a fan of you!! Your reviews are phenomenal and I have had u on my mind, would luv to set up a date with you!! So excited you responded.. handzy hugs 2u!!!
Also you're right, the info about Andrea Stone is second hand, I have not verified it. However I do trust the provider that told me, she mentioned it without malicious intent, only to enlighten me as to the circle Andrea Stone keeps, and how racist in her circle may influence or limit the type of clients she is willing to see.Â
My provider friend is credible she shares clients with Andrea Stone. Actually one of her clients was turned away at Andrea's door due to a misunderstanding regarding his race.Â
In all, the conversation did not really focus on Andrea Stone. She was enlightening me on how to avoid racist providers in general... to not waste time trying to get a session approved or scheduled... when it would most likely be a negative experience.Â
I considered myself an educated hobbyist but I guess not..Â
First she said beware of providers that have 'lists' of ethnicities they will not visit with.. for example when you readÂ
"I do not see men of (Asian, AA, Indian....etc)" indirectly they are rejecting based on skin color.
She also mentioned coded phrases, or word pairings that racist providers use to avoid lists of ethnic subcategories.Â
Instead they will say something like "I do not see Asian and, or AA clients" the pairing of Asian and AA clients really means that a provider will not see any client with a skin color typical of an Asian all the way to the skin color typical of an AA. So basically if your skin color falls in between that of an Asian to an AA they will not visit with you. It is a coded way of saying "White Clients Only".Â
I have seen this word pairing both in Minnesota and across the country and have always wondered why providers paired Asians and AfricanAmericans as groups they will not schedule with...Â
I truly had no clue until she explained it.Â
She even mentioned that some clients have pressured her to only see 'White Clients' because they think there is something dirty about sharing time with a provider who also shares time with clients of a different race.Â
In all it was a thought provoking enlightening conversation that helped me understand how real race and racism plays a factor in many ways in sex work We ended on the irony that sex workers fight for equality and inclusiveness while some sex workers reject and discriminate against clients.Â
She is definitely YMMV, and if you are Asian or Black or Latino you will have NO Mileage... she will not even see you. White Men Only. Not judging but it does make you wonder about a provider in 2022 that has these stipulations. So sad...
No one should go around trying to tell anyone else who they should have sex with. I don't know anything about her but I do know she has the right to choose her sex partners in whatever way she chooses.
In a regular cintext, absolutely a person my date and marry who they want, but in this situation we're talking about a business transaction. While I agree people can choose who they do business with, when you are only allowing one particular race to participate it screams of discrimination. As a man of color myself the most disappointing thing I've come upon in this hobby as when I identify provider I've started talking or see her ad and is interested in her and then she informs me she doesn't see men of color.
If I have sufficient funds, Act like a German, have good hygiene, Then there's no reason why you shouldn't be a potential client.
Just my 2 cents.
This reply is NOT intended to support any skinhead/nazi but looking thru other advertisement sites, many, if not most providers of color clearly state what color clients they will NOT see. Would their disapproval of clientele on specific skin color be considered rascist to you??
Ofcourse!! i mean, that is the definition of discrimination. Using race as a determining factor for who you provide service is just wrong! No matter who is doing it!!
If you ask me, it Just makes hobbying more difficult.
I would understand it more if it were someone that would not see someone from their own ethnic group, but even then its still discrimination.
I was wondering if anyone would speak up.
I'd have to agree with Snafu.
It's called a preference. Everything does not have to be racist related.
My preference of providers is not the same as others. It's my preference.
I see many providers that state no (insert color or race here). Again, a preference just as clients,such as myself, have their own preference.
Not sure they are the same,... i am sure that ALL escorts/massage providers have preferences.. but at what point does a preference become racist? Does it ever?
I think saying:
"i am an escort/massage provider to white men only" is when it becomes plain racism, and exclusionary.
vs.
"I am an escort/massage provider who prefers seeing white men, but i am open to all" is when it is a preference.
I don't agree.
Saying no AA is no different than saying no one under 40.
A provider has the right to see whoever she chooses. That's the way it works in America...or at least it used to.
It's called Freedom of Choice.
Playing the race card when you don't get your way is total BS.
It depends on the circumstances. I've seen ads where a girl says no AA, but on her onlyfans she's fucking a black guy.. So she messing around with a black man in her personal life and to make content with but she won't see that race as potential client. Others won't see AA specifically because of the preconceived notion of pimps and other nonsense. I know this because a few potential pros and shall pros have told me this.
If you're reason for not seeing someone over particular races because of a stereotype then yes that is racist. If you talk to someone and get a good vibe, then you should be able to see anyone.
Plus, I've never seen an ad where it says no white guys, have you?
Yes, being a racist is wrong. Nonetheless, regardless of the why, regardless of whether she is racist or has other reasons, she still has the right to decide who she is willing to see.
I don't doubt that racism is a factor in this but I have heard, sometimes directly from the provider, that they don't see clients of certain races/ethnicities because of fear of meeting someone they know/too many bad experiences with people of that background/even fear of a pimp trying to "recruit" them. Regardless of the reason why though, the service an escort provides has a fundamental difference from the services other businesses provides and, just like you, the provider has every right to decide who she will have sex with.
As a multiracial provider these sort of debates always boggle my mind. What I'll say is I've had the pleasure to see clients of all races, colors, ethnicities, ages, religions, body types etc. etc. and there are people in each group that sometimes are not so great clients. What I do know though is that I have never had a bad experience with a Black client.
While I fully respect that people can run their business as they see fit, depending on the reasoning for excluding a group, it does make wonder if the person's actions are racist. I understand preference, but it only raises more questions: what informed the preference? Is it stereotypes perpetuated in tv, film, and other media? Is it how one was raised? For example, I split my time between the Midwest and the South but was primarily raised in a predominately white area and while I have dated black men, asian men, hispanic men, etc... primary dating partners have been white.
For others, I know they are so embedded in their community that they feel the need to exclude certain groups to avoid running into people they know in that particular social circle; this may include excluding a race. This I can sort of get behind because if I were working in my hometown area, I would likely politely decline Indigenous folks, active military, and welders as my they may know my mother (and Indigenous woman) or one of my dads (one was a welder/ union steward of the shop and the other was in the military).
In general though, writing off an entire race just seems... racist? And then using data without full context is odd. For example, in the United States, the majority of reported and investigated serial killers are white males. Should I write off every white man who contacts me because the chances of him being a serial killer are higher? No - because the likelihood of actually running into one is slim as there are estimated to only be 50 active serial killers in the US out of the 300,000,000+ people who live here.
However, the day a provider publicly says, "I don't see white men", I hope I'm online and comfortably on my couch with popcorn and bottle of bourbon nearby.
The word racism gets tossed around, but if, say, some product was six times as dangerous as a competing product, which one would you avoid?
Exactly!! And since most providers are usually harmed by someone of their own race. Or by someone that is of the predominant race of thier clientele its a wonder why we never see more providers say "I dont see white men" ...
Hands down...Elisabeth Shye. Her PSE menu is unbelievable and well worth the price of admission.
a review on this unknown lady would be nice
She prefers not to be reviewed, but check out her website or follow her on Twitter.
Yowza! If I ever win the lottery...
Lol.. yeah for those absurd, and ridiculous prices I would imagine she would have a very open menu.. you can see multiple women for the cost of her.. maybe if I become a surgeon..
In the same boat. Too rich for my blood.
Those NYC prices would not be in my wheelhouse.
Think those that pay those prices do not care how much it is.
There is a segment of people that believe if they do not pay enough there is something wrong.
On the other hand if they overlay dramatically are not going to admit being taken when does not meet the elevated expectations.
For the rest of us there has to be some reason and my limit is well below her â Sticker Priceâ
Man even if I was willing to spend that much on one lady, it for sure wouldnât be her. Different guys have different tastes, but I do not find her photos to be attractive. Iâm not a fan of the âglamour modelâ type.
You guys argue over insignificant stuff. She is a glamour model out of NYC. MN is just flyover country for her, she will never be here. She needs to be brought up on the New York board. Not sure why national ladies who would probably never step foot in this state get brought up but whatever, enjoy your flights to NYC guys.
Saw her towards the end of last year when she was in town and would see her again in a heartbeat.
More power to you my man, but even if I could afford her, I couldn't justify paying $2000 for 2 hour of pleasure with one woman. For $2000, I could see 4-5 of the highest ranked women in MN and most are as hot(but more natural) than her.
Just my opinion..
Thatâs whatâs so great about this hobby, such a wide array of providers with an assortment of looks and body types, and of course price spectrum.
Wordpress perhaps... they get outdated very fast
I actually met Katelyn Cruize (retired) for the first time on Groundhog's Day, and I often revisit in my mind the many playtimes we shared.
Gorgeous, bright, playful and adventurous, I'd be glad to be in a continuous time loop with her!
Damn, that name gave me some flashbacks...
"you can affect some changes"
- 2X more Viagra
She would be like a combo hit of Viagra and the stable Cialis.
Any clue if shes still active??