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purplewildflower See my TER Reviews 1403 reads
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I prefer gentlemen turn it off put it away and forget about it.
I mean we hear every so often about how rude it is when a provider does this why should it be one sided?

I saw a nice gentleman the other day who found me on here, so I felt it appropriate to address this issue here.
During our ENTIRE session he would not put his blackberry down. From the very beginning of the massage he was taking calls and asking me to be silent (ok, no problem).  But as the hour progressed into more intimacy, he kept texting/mailing. At one point I got a little weireded out and asked him if was trying to record or video our session.  He politely said no and briefly show me his screen to let me see it was infact  an email, but damn, how was I to know?
Nice guy and good session beyond the fact the blackberry rarely left his hand or his side.  I was a bit irritated and wanted to address it on here to future clients. It is rude, and can be a bit creepy to do to a gal during your time spent. I understand taking an emergency call or asking to be excused to take it in another room.  But I don't get up in between our time spent to answer any texts, calls or emails coming through. Trying to keep the mood alive, I kept quiet about it during our time together. Never the less,we are all adults  & hopefully can all take something positive from this message...

Please be polite.

Just my 2 cents

Thank you

Selena

-- Modified on 2/7/2011 11:14:11 AM

Why would someone spend the money to relax and get a little something extra, and not want to "Be in the moment." If I couldn't be there body, mind, soul, then why spend the money.
Of course, it is his money. To me it is such a waste.

I prefer gentlemen turn it off put it away and forget about it.
I mean we hear every so often about how rude it is when a provider does this why should it be one sided?

what if i use the Blackberry for purposes other than email or texting? I can set it on vibrate. That would take phone sex to a whole new dimension.

Posted By: purplewildflower
I prefer gentlemen turn it off put it away and forget about it.
I mean we hear every so often about how rude it is when a provider does this why should it be one sided?

My services do support blackberry devices.

Posted By: BolshoiKhui
what if i use the Blackberry for purposes other than email or texting? I can set it on vibrate. That would take phone sex to a whole new dimension.
Posted By: purplewildflower
I prefer gentlemen turn it off put it away and forget about it.
I mean we hear every so often about how rude it is when a provider does this why should it be one sided?

I think both the hobbyist and the provider should turn their phones off and enjoy
their time together.  Why else be together if you're not going to enjoy the time?

just_sharing1294 reads

It seems to me that he doesn't deserve your 100% percent either. I'm sure he wouldn't notice if you just massaged him with one hand.

You've figured out that the guy didn't seem to be "up to something" as far as taking pics or whatever.  

So, could he be one of those guys with a lot of guilt over being there, and this was somehow covering his own issues?  Sorta like the guy who goes to the club but claims he didn't enjoy it.  Maybe replying to emails even creates an "alibi" in his own mind.  

I'm not saying that makes it any less rude or bizarre.  Just trying to guess what might make someone behave that way.  

hugder1241 reads

My theory... he's a lawyer who is on the clock... why not screw someone else while getting ....

Gotta pay for the session somehow, why not do it at the same time?

As for me, I can multitask with the best of them, but ya gotta draw the line here...  I personally prefer a provider that cares enough and takes a lot of pride in it.  You have got to respect that.

It is your decision to draw the line, but but it is a good thing that you care enough to ask the question.  That guy is missing so much more.

IMHO

1.  I can't imagine engaging a provider (either for R&T or FS) and not devoting my time to "the moment."

2.  That being said, it is not the same as complaining about the provider taking calls during the session.  We hobbyists are the ones paying the money - we're the clients.  If we want to spend our money (and time) taking text messages and e-mails, then that is our prerogative.

Personally, I can't imagine a text message more important than my happy ending, but every provider should know that eveyone has his kink.

Ms_Manners2157 reads

I'd like to see you try using that excuse with any other kind of paid service.  Whether or not you are paying, there is not only common courtesy, but privacy involved.  There have been many instances of men recording or videotaping sessions without permission.  In addition, there are all kinds of  services that you pay for in this world where using a cell phone would not be acceptable or tolerated.  Just because this one has more of an underground nature is no exception.  There has to be a limit to some things.

It was merely my observation that the use by the client is not comparable to cell phone / texting use by the provider.  All things being equal, it is far more unacceptable for the provider to take calls or text than for the client.  If the client wants to waste his time and money, that's his prerogative.

That being said, if you add in recording and videotaping, etc., that's another matter.

R_U_Crazy1260 reads

If you were paying me, it would be different. But, I'm paying you and if I want to wear my socks, or sing a song, or be on my Blackberry the whole time, that's my business.

Ms_Manners1179 reads

So there are no limits to what you can do while engaged in any service you pay for?  Wearing you socks and singing a song can hardly be compared to the risks involved if a provider allows electronic devices in a session.

By the way, try using the excuse "hey I'm paying"  the next time you are on a plane, in a hospital, in a spa or driving just to name a few.  Just "cuz" doesn't give you carte blanche to do anything you want.

R_U_Crazy1524 reads


If I want to check my email while I'm paying you to suck my dick that's my business, if you don't like it, no problem, I'll take my money somewhere else, you're not that special.

Posted By: Ms_Manners
So there are no limits to what you can do while engaged in any service you pay for?  Wearing you socks and singing a song can hardly be compared to the risks involved if a provider allows electronic devices in a session.

By the way, try using the excuse "hey I'm paying"  the next time you are on a plane, in a hospital, in a spa or driving just to name a few.  Just "cuz" doesn't give you carte blanche to do anything you want.

mnfan1122 reads

Posted By: Ms_Manners
So there are no limits to what you can do while engaged in any service you pay for?  Wearing you socks and singing a song can hardly be compared to the risks involved if a provider allows electronic devices in a session.

By the way, try using the excuse "hey I'm paying"  the next time you are on a plane, in a hospital, in a spa or driving just to name a few.  Just "cuz" doesn't give you carte blanche to do anything you want.
It is a closed session. No cells on planes due to interference with communication equipt. None in hospitals due to interference with life saving machines. None in a spa due to interference with guest.

Its like golf. You have to be quiet when others hit, but if you want to spend the time on the cell phone vs enjoy watching the ducks.. to each their own.

Just put some tape over the cam ;)

You really did it now.  Cell phones on the golf course are almost as bad as cell phones during a great massage session.  Totally RUDE.

inquiring.mind997 reads

to providing is lawyering..  Both involve a specialised skill set for which a high hourly rate can be charged.  Both require concentration to do well.  Both rely heavily on reputation to keep new clients knocking on the door.  

A lawyer will often let his client get away with rudeness so long as fees are paid in full and on time, but most assuredly a lawyer who is seeking informed consent from his client, or preparing his client to give testimony, or discussing the client's intentions in a proposed last will and testament, will not permit that client to give the matter less than full attention.  To do so would create a risk the client will later claim quite truthfully that he was not properly advised.  It's not enough to say the words, a lawyer has to make sure his client heard them.  No lawyer will agree that giving him money entitles the client to manoeuvre him into a malpractice lawsuit.  

I see no reason why a provider who wants to be known for giving satisfaction and full value should be obligated to let her client pay so little attention to the matter at hand, pun intended, that he might honestly call the session unmemorable.  Not as an issue of courtesy so much as good business practice.  It's not enough to rub and tug, a provider needs to make sure her client could feel it.  If the lady doesn't care, then no harm, no foul.  If she does care, I am baffled by the attitude that giving her money entitles one to prevent her from doing the job she is paid for.

MsChayse1402 reads

With a full refund I might add. Your money isn't so important to me to tolerate such rude, & obnoxious behavior. Pfft!!!

I'm the same way, I just have zero tolerance for rude people . I'm not from MN either .  
If its their phone addiction or just the way they present themselves upon arrival if someone
makes me feel uneasy by giving me attitude or refusing to put down the mobile device
I wont follow through with the session.
but I'm still polite about it as Im telling them to leave not asking for a dime.

viewfromthegutter1744 reads

and some that can stream live video and make reservations for dinner at the same time.
You want to return an email, make a call,  fine but step in the other room or the bathroom.
We don't know WTF you are doing with your iphone/blackberry.....and the decision to have our images out on the internet should be ours, not yours.

This is just rude.  If you are too busy, don't book an appointment.  
It's actually sad really.  He's so important he couldn't even enjoy a HE?

R_U_Crazy1386 reads

So the problem is the phone? If I were to read a book or watch ESPN while I pay you to suck my dick, because that's how I like it, that would be ok? Or is the issue here that I'm not going crazy over your oral skills, telling you how you're the best cocksucker in the world? Do you want me to look you in the eyes and tell you "I love you", maybe you should be paying me?

You aren't Christmas cake either you know...

Everyone is entitled to their opinion however we aren't robots at least I'm not.
We get just as peeved as you do if its the other way around.
in fact if I see a cell phone I throw something over it just in case because you just never know.
If you feel inclined to read a book or watch TV while in a session
you paid for then there's something else most likely  wrong with you
You should probably stay home treat the SO a little better or get a girlfriend and maybe then
you can get your bbbj while watching TV or reading a book
rather than waste  $$$ let the appreciative hobbyists
Enjoy us & keep us to themselves  :)
IMHO
Id prefer a client who's into ME and not some stupid mobile device.

-- Modified on 2/8/2011 1:31:36 AM

Perfect response.  Sometimes you really need to be present to make a connection.  And it is all about connections.

For the love of Pete! The issue is quite simply about common courtesy. Besides, I highly doubt that your kink is reading a book while getting a hummer. Even if it was, you should and would discuss it beforehand with the provider so that your kink was handled to your satisfaction and if desired shove a bookmark up your ass as you climaxed.

Try a little brevity, put yourself in the providers shoes for a minute. For example, If you went to get your car fixed and while you are explaining your cars problem to your mechanic and he just kept saying "Yeah, OK." while texting away on his phone and essentially ignoring you. If this occurred, the normal response is to tell the mechanic to put down his phone and ask that they pay attention to what you have to say or seek a new mechanic that will actually take an interest in what is essentially their livelyhood.

People who blather on their phones in movies and nice restaurants are also ignorant of how rude they are due to their own perceived self importance. In movie theaters, I will not hesitate to jump into the seat next to the asshat talking loudly on their phone to loudly point out that they are being a shitheel and that other people who also paid for the privlege of watching said movie would rather not endure their phone drama over the movie. The last time that happened, I had about 30 people in the theater applaud my chewing out the offending twat in question.

Simply put such behavior that the provider endured was offensive. Any reasonable person who is capable of understanding that everyone has feelings should know that and should not act that way. Personally, I think the dude should probably count his blessings. Ever hear the phrase "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned?" I would dare say that such phrase is entirely appropo considering the circumstances.

R_U_Crazy1648 reads


In your case I'm paying the mechanic and he's ignoring me.
What we're talking about is I'm paying the Provider and I'm ignoring her.
It's not the same thing.

Try again.


Try a little brevity, put yourself in the providers shoes for a minute. For example, If you went to get your car fixed and while you are explaining your cars problem to your mechanic and he just kept saying "Yeah, OK." while texting away on his phone and essentially ignoring you. If this occurred, the normal response is to tell the mechanic to put down his phone and ask that they pay attention to what you have to say or seek a new mechanic that will actually take an interest in what is essentially their livelyhood.

OK thinks he's Christmas cake.....
It is the same fracking thing.
You're on your mobile device or utilizing a book tele or what have you while in a session.
It is rude on both ends.

= EPIC HOBBY FAIL.

If I  see one frackin complaint about a lady on her phone from you.
I'm gonna laugh so hard.

c_mon_man1049 reads

This whole hobby is supply and demand. I have the supply and you have the demand. Every night I can be with one or more of dozens of Providers. Can you be with one or more of dozens Hobbyists, every night? I doubt it.

Actually you haven't a clue what us ladies can and can't do.
So that is moot.

All im saying Turn your frackin phone off pay attention and quit being a D-bag.

Posted By: c_mon_man
This whole hobby is supply and demand. I have the supply and you have the demand. Every night I can be with one or more of dozens of Providers. Can you be with one or more of dozens Hobbyists, every night? I doubt it.

c_mon_man1203 reads

You can be with dozens of hobbyists every night?? Is that why you travel to small towns in the Dakotas? Because you are soooo busy here in Minnesota you drive hundreds of miles to get away from all the men hounding you every night for an appointment??  HA!

I agree that is sad that someone would be so tied up with personal business that they wont tune it out to enjoy.

Crackberrys... Really some people just can't put the damn things down.  I can't tell you how many times I have been in the bathroom and I can hear in the stall next door some guy answering the phone.  Come on - don't they realize the person on the other end knows they are in the bathroom?

When I am with a lovely lady I want to put my full attention on my time with her.

jerthebear1055 reads

I would ask the same of all the providers.Turn off the tv!I've had a couple of providers leave the tv on during business.I even had one in Shakopee turn it on just as we started!

I'm ok with the TV being on, as long as it's not too loud.  I've seen a number of providers who leave the TV on to drown out the other sounds for any eavesdroppers.

With respect to the original topic, I always have my Crackberry silenced when I'm seeing a provider.  Not just on vibrate, but completely silent.  I used to just put it on vibrate, but I found that when it would go off, I'd wonder in the back of my mind who it was and what they were calling/emailing me about, so it was still a distraction.

On another very slightly related topic, how do you all feel about using Google Voice as a hobby phone?  I used to have a prepaid phone for that purpose, but when my minutes ran out, I changed to using my Google Voice account for that.  Generally it's been ok, but a couple months ago one provider kind of freaked out when her calls to me were answered by Google Voice.  I think it almost led her to cancel the session.  Thankfully it did not, and in fact at the end of the session I think I convinced her that Google Voice was a good thing for hobbying, and something that she might find useful.  But is anyone else uneasy about clients calling you on Google Voice?

Posted By: jerthebear
I would ask the same of all the providers.Turn off the tv!I've had a couple of providers leave the tv on during business.I even had one in Shakopee turn it on just as we started!

This thread is quite the example of the spectrum of hobbyists on this board nowadays.  Where has the humanity gone?  

I think there are very legitimate reasons of both politeness as well as security for a provider to be concerned with this.  I can also imagine circumstances where a guy is in the middle of some important business issue and has a choice between canceling or rescheduling with a provider and might want to multi-task as a solution.  

I could see myself enjoying a nice backrub and happy ending while conducting business on my Iphone. I once had a situation where a provider, who I had seen before, came to my hotel room for an early morning rendezvous.  I was busy with email on my laptop, dressed in only my robe.  I asked her if we could postpone things for about 15 minutes and no problem.  But after about 5 minutes she became a bit impatient and decided to start stripping seductively on the bed, in full view through the mirror in front of my desk.  Pretty soon she is crawling under the desk, opens my robe and starts with a nice bbbj.  Of course my morning woody was quite ready for this and my emailing got done a bit more quickly, lol.  It was actually kinda hot, sort of a secretary fantasy in a way.  

But back to the point of the thread - notwithstanding the rude behavior aspect, its the prerogative of the provider to establish her own rules for sake of security. If a guy doesn't like the rules, go elsewhere.  With the smartphones of today a guy could very easily and surreptitiously record or photograph the provider while appearing to do other things on the phone.  I encountered one provider last year who actually asked to check that my phone was off at the start.  Another, when coming to my hotel room, was uncomfortable with my laptop still open and on, and asked that I shut it off.  No problem.  

As others have pointed out, there are lots of other settings where, because of etiquette, privacy, or security reasons, cellphones have to be in the off position.  I was just in Vegas and they have gotten very tough with cellphohes at the tables and in shows.  I was at a show where they actually checked your phone at the door to make sure you had it off.  If they even see it light up they bounce your ass out.  Primary reason is to prevent recording and photos, let alone the disruption.  I thought it was great. I can't stand to be in a public place where its normally quiet - a restaurant for example, and some asshole at a table near you is talking on his phone in a loud voice for 15 minutes as though there was noone else around. And people at your table during dinner texting - totally rude.  


It just amazes me that so many people cannot be without their "electronic pacifiers" for 5 minutes.
I heard a story on the radio the other day that campgrounds and parks will be now be offering WI FI, because guests want to use their phones and laptops while camping.  I thought the purpose of camping was to enjoy nature not stare at your box of light.
I think smart phone use by the provider or client during session is wrong. It is rude.

I would say the best solution is talk to each other and get on the same page.  I still don't know why a guy would hire an escort and then spend their time on the phone but if she's OK with it, well to each his own.

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