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Re: An interesting read, but...confused_smile
IvanaHump 113 reads
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Ok love, I'm very close to a provider and she's nothing like this at all.
First off she's financially ok (a great part time job) she's not really young or the typical idea of more mature, but somewhere inbetween. I know for a fact that she has thought some of those exact things (that sticks talked about), so I'm pretty sure she can't be the only one.  
I know the types she's had prior relationships with and I can understand why she finally told me "from now on I don't put out unless I get something for it"
she's also fond of saying "she only f_ _ks for love or money"  my point is every person is different.  
                           Many providers have limited time for this kind of side play, for them it's definitely not about banging as many as they can. It's my idea that plenty of them need and appreciate foreplay too, maybe not always but I hardly think any that I've known would be laughing at a client.
 Any adult knows that running your own business means catering to your clients, only the very immature must get that wrong.  
As far as what is done for the entire hour, you're more then likely overlooking the human desire for connection, a bit of conversation and that awesome foreplay we all love as her desire not to "wear out" areas. LOL
                 I say if you'd like to pound on something for an entire hour straight, go grab yourself a blow-up doll!
I usually enjoy your remarks, if not for the honesty at least for the entertainment. I felt compelled to comment once it dawned on me that you actaully might not realize these normal, decent providers do exsisit. It's my opinion Minnesota has some of the best!

Posted By: loveyourtouch
Re: An interesting read, but...
That's an interesting read, but let me try from a different perspective.  
   
 I enjoy the sensuality and build up.  Age doesn't really matter to me because I've had women of all ages do this, but my experience is that the mature ones seem to do it more.  The wham, bam, thank you ma'am days are fewer and farther between.  Perhaps some because of age and some just my desire.  
   
 But to address what sticks wrote, I see it a bit differently.  I don't think every young woman wants to have good experiences, and I think the reviews support that.  There are way too many out there who merely go through the motions and want the quick buck.  In the end, it is all about the money, isn't it?  I really don't think a woman is self conscious and gives a shit what the guys think.  I certainly don't think they're "wondering and hoping" if you like them.  They know YOU called them for their pussy, ass, or BJ skills.  They're not giving freebies so you'll like them.  And it's up to you to put them at ease?  Really?  My guess is they're sucking and fucking 50 times more than you are seeing providers, so I'm pretty sure what makes them comfortable is seeing a few Benjis in plain view.  "Every young women [sic] wants to have good experiences with an older man."  I doubt that claim.  I wonder how many young women walk away from fucking an old guy and laugh?  I think women like the older guys because they're easy money. Mostly one and done. I.e., they're not fucking for the entire hour or more and wearing out that pussy, pooper, and mouth.    
 Your last 2 sentences are on the mark.  Just everyone be safe and happy!

cleavers2166 reads

This can go back to the foreplay topic recently, but I spend some time over on the 60 and over board…this post came up…

A recent post from a younger provider lamenting that older clients prefer older providers got me to thinking (which is dangerous all in itself). What is it that older men really enjoy in a provider?  

I'll start this out:  
1. A provider that allows me to take the lead and will go at my pace. The biggest turn off for me is to get in the door, have the provider grab me and say, "Let's get naked and fuck".  
2. A provider that knows the art of the sensual tease. Basically, I enjoy the foreplay more than the sex. A sensual touch here, a brush of the leg there. The unexpected sincere kiss. My shirt unbuttoned before I even realize it. Knowing when to take the lead.  
3. A provider who knows that provocative clothing/lingerie is much more erotic than just take-it-all-off nude.  
4. A provider that exudes confidence and self assurance

My thoughts: I agree with his statement

When I go on a longer date, she is seducing you in the bar or restaurant. Or the elevator... think Aerosmith’s song “love in the elevator”
When guys get older, we start looking for something a lot better or improvement. Not just because of the little engine that could not…but in our mind…no more wham bam thank you mam. Our buttons need to be pushed and finding a provider that can reach that is a maze. I think providers that are very young cannot bring me to that point.  
A few years ago when I did see some porn stars, there was one that really brought me to what I call a sexual breakdown. She exposed all my emotions, senses and they were conflicting. At the beginning she said to me “you are not going to cum until I let you”… a mind fuck… well continued to another day.

... about compatibility due to our age difference. There are few ladies who will restrict whom they are willing to see based on an upper age limit. I normally book only shorter sessions, 2 hours and under, so I haven't experienced what intimacy you describe from seeing more mature women on longer dates.  

I do enjoy 'wham bam thank you ma'am' dates and those are very infrequent. I think that younger providers who are relatively new to this work really want to experience it all and develop a good reputation for themselves. Every young women wants to have good experiences with an older man. Who knows...I might be either her first experience with a man significantly older than her so I'd be remiss in my duty to womankind if I withheld from her the joy of being with me. A woman walking into my room has no idea what to expect to see of her anonymous date. She will be a bit self conscious and anxious, wondering and hoping...does he like me? Does he think I'm pretty? Does he love my body? It's up to me, using my charm, humor and killer sexy music playlist, to put her at ease, make her feel comfortable and reassure her that she looks wonderful tonight. First, we develop a connection and hopefully see each other again if we feel there's chemistry.  

Every one of us participates in this world as they find they enjoy the most, it seems. There's a wide variety of offerings to choose from and as long as we're loving, touching and squeezing another, it's a great secret world to live in!

loveyourtouch133 reads

That's an interesting read, but let me try from a different perspective.  

I enjoy the sensuality and build up.  Age doesn't really matter to me because I've had women of all ages do this, but my experience is that the mature ones seem to do it more.  The wham, bam, thank you ma'am days are fewer and farther between.  Perhaps some because of age and some just my desire.

But to address what sticks wrote, I see it a bit differently.  I don't think every young woman wants to have good experiences, and I think the reviews support that.  There are way too many out there who merely go through the motions and want the quick buck.  In the end, it is all about the money, isn't it?  I really don't think a woman is self conscious and gives a shit what the guys think.  I certainly don't think they're "wondering and hoping" if you like them.  They know YOU called them for their pussy, ass, or BJ skills.  They're not giving freebies so you'll like them.  And it's up to you to put them at ease?  Really?  My guess is they're sucking and fucking 50 times more than you are seeing providers, so I'm pretty sure what makes them comfortable is seeing a few Benjis in plain view.  "Every young women [sic] wants to have good experiences with an older man."  I doubt that claim.  I wonder how many young women walk away from fucking an old guy and laugh?  I think women like the older guys because they're easy money. Mostly one and done. I.e., they're not fucking for the entire hour or more and wearing out that pussy, pooper, and mouth.  
Your last 2 sentences are on the mark.  Just everyone be safe and happy!

souls_harbor94 reads

To me it is like stage acting.  They've done it many times before, it can't really be that interesting in itself.  But if they take it professionally you can't tell if they are not really into it.  In the end, though, they all love the applause and curtain calls.  Encore!  Encore!

IvanaHump114 reads

Ok love, I'm very close to a provider and she's nothing like this at all.
First off she's financially ok (a great part time job) she's not really young or the typical idea of more mature, but somewhere inbetween. I know for a fact that she has thought some of those exact things (that sticks talked about), so I'm pretty sure she can't be the only one.  
I know the types she's had prior relationships with and I can understand why she finally told me "from now on I don't put out unless I get something for it"
she's also fond of saying "she only f_ _ks for love or money"  my point is every person is different.  
                           Many providers have limited time for this kind of side play, for them it's definitely not about banging as many as they can. It's my idea that plenty of them need and appreciate foreplay too, maybe not always but I hardly think any that I've known would be laughing at a client.
 Any adult knows that running your own business means catering to your clients, only the very immature must get that wrong.  
As far as what is done for the entire hour, you're more then likely overlooking the human desire for connection, a bit of conversation and that awesome foreplay we all love as her desire not to "wear out" areas. LOL
                 I say if you'd like to pound on something for an entire hour straight, go grab yourself a blow-up doll!
I usually enjoy your remarks, if not for the honesty at least for the entertainment. I felt compelled to comment once it dawned on me that you actaully might not realize these normal, decent providers do exsisit. It's my opinion Minnesota has some of the best!

Posted By: loveyourtouch
Re: An interesting read, but...
That's an interesting read, but let me try from a different perspective.  
   
 I enjoy the sensuality and build up.  Age doesn't really matter to me because I've had women of all ages do this, but my experience is that the mature ones seem to do it more.  The wham, bam, thank you ma'am days are fewer and farther between.  Perhaps some because of age and some just my desire.  
   
 But to address what sticks wrote, I see it a bit differently.  I don't think every young woman wants to have good experiences, and I think the reviews support that.  There are way too many out there who merely go through the motions and want the quick buck.  In the end, it is all about the money, isn't it?  I really don't think a woman is self conscious and gives a shit what the guys think.  I certainly don't think they're "wondering and hoping" if you like them.  They know YOU called them for their pussy, ass, or BJ skills.  They're not giving freebies so you'll like them.  And it's up to you to put them at ease?  Really?  My guess is they're sucking and fucking 50 times more than you are seeing providers, so I'm pretty sure what makes them comfortable is seeing a few Benjis in plain view.  "Every young women [sic] wants to have good experiences with an older man."  I doubt that claim.  I wonder how many young women walk away from fucking an old guy and laugh?  I think women like the older guys because they're easy money. Mostly one and done. I.e., they're not fucking for the entire hour or more and wearing out that pussy, pooper, and mouth.    
 Your last 2 sentences are on the mark.  Just everyone be safe and happy!

loveyourtouch97 reads

that there are providers who love what they do. I've spent time with a few of them.  And God bless them!  Shit...  I think every guy playing in the hobby wishes he could get paid for having sex.
No... that was not my point (disparaging providers), and I'm sorry if it came across that way.  I was merely presenting a different perspective to what someone else wrote.  Yes, there are plenty of great providers, but let's not kid ourselves, there are plenty of providers who aren't.  And then there are the here-today-gone-tomorrow girls and the outright rip-offs.  So while some guy(s) might fantasize that he's going to be a first or one of the first in line and think that the provider is "hoping" that the client will like her, etc., I was really trying to make the point that it's all about the money.  After the "transaction," and the woman walks away, does anyone really think she cares whether or not the guy liked her?  Whether it's sports, politics, business, or sex.... just follow the money.
FYI- my comment about fucking for an hour was actually a reference a provider made to me about a guy who posts here.  She told me in a PM that he just wants to fuck the entire hour and do nothing else. The PM was kind of light-hearted humor.  (And she's a sweet heart - wasn't bad mouthing.)  But neither you nor anyone else would have known that I was referring to that.  But I remember the days when I could fuck for hours too.  Damn!  Now days it's all about sensuality, closeness, and that dreaded--though make believe--"connection."  Shit... If I could fuck for hours and have the hour of sensuality, I'd need half-day sessions.  Hope that clears it up a bit because it wasn't my intent to rip on anyone.  I was in the frame of mind like a group of friends sitting having a beer.  One guy says, "She's a 10!" and other guys say 7, 8 ,9, etc.... then they talk about what they see.  Not arguing. Not fighting. Not antagonizing. No one's right or wrong.  Just sharing view points. That's all I meant.    Happy Saturday everyone!!

IvanaHump87 reads

Alrighty then I gotcha. Speaking of that pretend connection I'll share a funny story my provider friend  
Told me.  
While enjoying extended visits with a regular of hers she noticed he didn't always reply when she was talking and sometimes didn't seem to know how to answer.  
Well she figured it all out one day in a crowded, but dark movie theater, as he started  feeling her up  
He also decided to whisper sweet nothings, forgetting, that without your hearing aid/s in, what you think is a whisper could be voice level talking.
I guess her face was pretty red, as he was asking "mmmm baby do you like that, yes oh yeah."  
I was laughing too hard to ask how she stopped him.
I guess she stopped any meaningful conversation and movie dates with him.  
So yeah we all pretend sometimes right.

The impression I've gotten over the years from escorts is they are more interested in whether or not we are clean, treat them appropriately, and hold up our end of the business arrangement.  That's not to say the other factors you mention never come into play but I don't think they are foremost in their minds when they first see a client.

First impression  what shade of green are you . . Its business.   This is a vocation not an avocation.

My biggest problem with the REALLY young ones is that they look like children to me (my kids are in their mid-20s, after all) and I'm NOT a pedophile. This is partly why I look to other ethnic groups (I'm white European) since I find it harder to tell if a young woman is 25 or 30. Also, I married a scandahoovian, so I want my bit of strange.

Yes, there are a lot of backpagers who are interested in volume over quality, but there are plenty who aren't, too. Unfortunately, too many of the ladies who post here are priced out of my range. Yes, I save up and occasionally will afford a wonderful time with a TER favorite, but I'm constantly in a fight between my big head (but it's so much better) and my little one (I want it NOW!) and I don't always win these.  

I'm paranoid, and I don't need or want actual sex by President Clinton's standard. For me, it's almost always the foreplay and a couple of fetishes (fetishi?) that is what I'm looking for, so I've avoided any diseases and other complications. I do wish we would legalize the industry and I could walk into a place and mutually select someone I have chemistry with. I know: Find a lady I like and become a regular, but this comes back to the "bit of strange". Once I'm comfortable with a lady, I want to find someone different, since part of the thrill is the unanticipated.

So, what's my point? I don't have one. I would prefer ladies in the 30 to 45 age range, but I take what I can get.

i have always preferred foreplay and i'm finding that wanting in the providers that I've seen recently. Most are wham, bam and thank you man. The last one was quite playful after the act but had no intention of round two.

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