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soulshaker67 9 Reviews 1351 reads
posted
1 / 9

...and what criteria determines the amount? I feel that one major factor is the law of supply and demand. However, on another board, the majority of hobbyists feel that rates for visiting providers should be adjusted based on the cost of living in a particular area that is being visited. An example would be, if a bottle of beer could be bought in City A for $4, while at City B beer is sold at $9 a bottle, if a provider who's rates are $300hr in City B should drop her rates to $132hr to match the 44% difference in the cost of living between City A and City B.
I saw on the board recently that a provider stated potential interest in visiting the area in the near future, and a hobbyist responded by stating that she needs to look at what the local providers rates are and adjust her rates accordingly.
I understand that the area is more sparsely populated and that the client base may not have the number of higher-end clientele that a major metro area will have. That's an easily understood fact. But the presence of that fact has now seemed to have given those local to the general area the initiative to stand up and declare that all visiting providers need to adjust their rates because of it.  

I could understand if that $132 the provider made in City A magically transformed into $300 once she entered the city limits of City B to adjust for the cost-of-living difference. But since we know that doesn't happen it seems to me that telling a provider that she needs to adjust her rates so more guys can see her when she comes to visit could be seen as, well, tacky.
I'm not assuming that providers don't make adjustments when touring. But like I said, it has always seemed to me that it has been more of a supply-and-demand thing than a cost-of-living in a particular location thing. Other opinions??

vorlon 119 Reviews 989 reads
posted
2 / 9

Well for one thing, I think if a provider says she is thinking of coming to town and is treated to a barrage of responses that she should lower her rates then she's probably just going to forget about coming.

Should a provider consider rate differences between different cities when touring?  I would think they would but who knows.

In the end the only criteria that matter are what rate she decides to charge.  Then the guys decide if they want to see her at that rate.  If she doesn't get the response she wants, she has the option to lower it.

I understand the desire to point out to a touring provider if her rates are significantly higher than the usual ones in whatever city she is considering but it is a touchy subject that easily comes across as trying to tell her how to run her business.

soulshaker67 9 Reviews 1140 reads
posted
3 / 9

I used the $4 vs $9 beer analogy because someone else used it on the other board to validate his point. Exaggerating the price difference doesn't add credibility to the argument in either case, but since he used it I went with it in my example.
But the overall point I was trying to make is that despite the cost-of-living in any one area, IMO its more the law of supply-and-demand that come into play that determines rates. Remember, thats just my opinion/assumption. Why do I have that assumption?
Well, look at hunting season as an example. Providers who may be getting $100hr on the TC area come west into smaller towns and can get around $250hr. These smaller towns obviously have a lower cost-of-living than the TC area, yet the hourly rate goes up instead of down. But according to the logic that the others on the other board are stating, those girls should instead drop their prices instead of increasing them.
At the moment, the supply is high enough that it may be a good idea for visiting providers to consider a rate adjustment if they were to come to the area. But I remember a time when Omaha and TC providers would visit on a fairly regular basis and their rates would increase during their visits. Heck, there was no competition in the area and those rates worked for them. Nowadays there are a handful of local reputable providers who have competitive prices and the regular visits have dwindled.
I guess all I'm saying is that from what I see, the rates have always seemed to be determined by the law of supply-and-demand. But the guys on the other board seem to insist that its more about the cost-of-living that determines the rates. Well, I'm sure that both are factors.
I just think it would be more accurate to state to visiting providers that the handful of local providers have set their rates at a certain level and to be more competitive they should at least consider looking at what the local providers have set their rates at.
Because despite the lower cost of living, if it weren't for the presence of the local providers, visiting providers could come in, name their price and without the alternative of seeing local providers with lower rates, there would be guys who would gladly pay it.

Geronimo651 29 Reviews 1079 reads
posted
4 / 9

Our conutry has grown apart. A 100k income is somewhat wealthy in Sioux Falls, it's nearer to  poverty in NYC.  Oddly enough the price of a beer, a refridgerator or a car is about the same in either place. Going to a bar, a restaraunt or paying for parking is the opposite.

Riley007 45 Reviews 1360 reads
posted
5 / 9

You are missing a few important details with your deer season analogy.

One is that opening weekend is short and demand is high. Try getting $250 after the season has been open a while. Odds are the guys spending $250 are from the Cities and have commensurate incomes. They are also willing to pay more as they have a very limited window of opportunity to hobby, opener weekend.

Vegas is a great example of a place where incomes from all over, including people that have saved up to go, mix with a healthy provider population and a limited window of opportunity. I'd pay more in Vegas for a variety of reasons, even though Vegas has many times more providers than Mpls. A $600 girl available in Vegas during the 3 nights I'm there may only be worth $300 to me in Mpls on a Tuesday.

Finally, traveling girls have an advantage that they are only here for a short time. Local girls may have to charge less as they are more readily available. There is more to supply and demand than just raw head count.

I have watched the boards enough to know that a $1,000 an hour girl better pre-book before coming to Minneapolis or she might not be too busy. Getting $500+ an hour locally probably means that her hobbying isn't her primary income.

soulshaker67 9 Reviews 568 reads
posted
6 / 9

from the posts on the other board, it almost seems that the guys feel that they are entitled to lower rates because of their location. Myself, I wouldn't feel right about trying to convince a provider that she's obligated to give me a lower rate because I'm from a certain location. If that were the case, I could go into the TC area and request a lower rate from a provider because I'm from a place with a lower cost of living. That would go over like a lead balloon.

nahtynikkey See my TER Reviews 1120 reads
posted
7 / 9

Posted By: Riley007
Finally, traveling girls have an advantage that they are only here for a short time. Local girls may have to charge less as they are more readily available. There is more to supply and demand than just raw head count.
Yup, pretty much. After you've been in a city for some years, there will always be newer & younger providers coming onto the scene... of course the local guys will try them out, that's the whole point of the hobby! Basically, the same thing for traveling girls.. you can pay her asking rate, or miss her, & hope that she comes back someday. With a local girl, you can just wait around, until maybe someday, she runs a special, or you have the time to save up to see her if your so inclined to do so.

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 1002 reads
posted
8 / 9

*thumbs up*

Posted By: vorlon
Well for one thing, I think if a provider says she is thinking of coming to town and is treated to a barrage of responses that she should lower her rates then she's probably just going to forget about coming.

Should a provider consider rate differences between different cities when touring?  I would think they would but who knows.

In the end the only criteria that matter are what rate she decides to charge.  Then the guys decide if they want to see her at that rate.  If she doesn't get the response she wants, she has the option to lower it.

I understand the desire to point out to a touring provider if her rates are significantly higher than the usual ones in whatever city she is considering but it is a touchy subject that easily comes across as trying to tell her how to run her business.

missleah09 See my TER Reviews 1064 reads
posted
9 / 9

it cost me more than 150 for a room for the night, I will more than likely up my rates by 50 for that city.  Everywhere else it is just the same.  Some big cities are just expensive, so ladies there are expensive there as well.

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