I mean really, it does seem to me that it is just an upcharge, but I'm very willing to be educated about this.  My thoughts;

Let me try to clarify, I don't like to see women that don't enjoy what they do.  If a lady is being intimate with me, I'd rather it because she is enjoying it.  Now as far as PSE goes, do gals do this but not enjoy playing the part?  Is this spitting on a dick or teary eyed gagging? Neither of those spins my wheels, but maybe it does yours.  Is it more general, like "use me like a cumrag" and I'm going to act like I love it???

Hey lady, if you love that, then I will too, but I don't want the acting.

I've been around for a while (1999 give or take) on here, I really can't remember my first TER visit, but still can't discern this relatively new phenomenom.  

I don't know, I guess I've seen so many great gals that have had the attitude that they are there for fun also and they have given 100+% in the process.

Every time I read an ad offering the PSE for $ more, I read into it that they may either; exceed their normal safety restrictions for reward or I'm going to be adequate but for the extra hundie, I'll show you how good I really can be.  Both are red flags for me, but I'm interested in hearing other comments, especially from GFE/PSE providers.

PSE = Greek

BBFS is NOT INCLUDED. However, I've heard from many ladies that the request is common (kinda scary!!)

You are not by yourself in your confusion.  I too am somewhat confused over what is the precise difference between the two.  I do see what you mean when there are those who use them for as an "upcharge".  My personal feeling is that both terms should be part of the whole package and spelled out in either the ad or the website.

Coincidentally, I have a thread on the presses that addresses several of the issues you've mentioned.  Coming soon on a Minnesota Regional Board soon.  lol

It's funny because GFE is a misnomer. In my experience, providers that offer "GFE" are usually better than any real girlfriend I've had.

I'm waiting for someone to start offering the Wife Experience, someone that just lies there and bitches because you aren't done yet, then asks you to do the dishes and take out the trash before you leave.

~*Please mind you, before I am flamed, this is my opinion.*~

First off, I do not charge differently for PSE vs GFE. That would be charging for a service, not my time.
(I've always thought that 'prostitues sell services and escorts sell time')

           What GFE means to Samantha Good:
If a female is really into her boyfriend, she would be willing to try (do) things he liked in bed.
A 'true' girlfriend loves to please her man any way she can (it's always nice when the boyfriend wants to do the same).
Now, if that is a sloppy, dt gagging bj so be it. If it is laying in bed for 3 hours talking and caressing, so be it.

In any and all relationships, I would not do things I am not comfortable with. ie too big for the back door.
So, the same goes for any hobby related activity.

GFE is a broad spectrum, at the very least it should involve DFK.
In fact, in the hobby world I don't think PSE should even be a thing. It should be GFE (broad spectrum) or not GFE.

           What PSE means to Samantha Good:
Bring out the CAMERA!! Let's take photos; let's make our own porn (I have theme ideas).
I do this, it says so on my site ("if you're interested in something different"). I've had countless photo shoots and have made 6 bj videos.

There are connotations with in a PSE of bbfs -full menu-hard core-.

Charging more for PSE seems to be for 2 reasons:
1. The female does not care for that specific activity; charging more makes her ok with it (money fixes lots of things).
2. The female needs more money because of extra prep need to be fresh and clean. -Everyone....I REPEAT, everyone (providers and hobbyists) should always be clean. Eating a balanced diet, not neglecting fiber and plenty of water you shouldn't have problems this area.

If you agree, I'm sure you'd love my blog "K-9 in this world".
If you disagree, great! Diversity is what makes the world go round. This is what I believe and so this is how I run my business; I am happy for all the successful ladies that run their business differently. You know what they say, "different strokes for different folks."

...now off the soap box....

Keepin' it real,
SG

I charge $ extra for PSE.
The ONLY difference is PSE includes Greek (which I am clear about on my website).
The reason I charge extra for it, frankly - is because I don't want it to be available to everyone who sees me.
I enjoy it - definitely - but if I did it with everyone I saw, it would just be too much, and it might even turn painful.
Charging extra for it limits the number of times I engage in it, and ultimately makes it a more enjoyable experience for me when I do.
I hope this makes sense.

Well stated arielle.... let me first point many use gfe in advertisement yet it can be a broad term that doesn't mean the same to all. Same goes for pse. Just like there is one rate for massage, then a step up to gfe in price and service. The provider who offers pse at another rate ought to have something additional she offers. I personally offer a copy of my greatest hits and a couple extras not offered in gfe which turns out to be a great value as buying them separately would cost over 100 and I only add 50 for pse....to each their own and I dont push it on people, nor do I do it just for the money. I do it as am extra option for the gents who seek something out of the norm. Rather than raise my rates for the guys who like my sweet gfe experience. I would never, and I repeat never do something I don't like to do just for a few extra bucks. Hope that helps.

Whenever I see the upcharge for the acronym PSE, I think it is for Greek service.  A lady I saw once explained to me that she needs to prepare for it and know ahead of time so that the prep time can be scheduled.  She told me that if all men were the same size, she wouldn't need to prepare, but she never knows when a guy with a "monster" is going to show up.  This lady also has more than 40 pages of TER reviews and is not based in MN.

Ladies that don't need to prepare maybe should advertise that Greek is offered in their standard package.

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I agree - very well said.
Samantha sells her time only.  Thus, she is considered an escort.  I charge a different rate for a GFE experience vs. a PSE experience, which means I charge for services, not time.  Ergo I am considered a prostitute.
It has been said many times, and is widely believed (as Samantha pointed out) -that "prostitutes sell services and escorts sell time." :P

"prostitutes sell services and escorts sell time"

Exactly.  

Prostitutes upsell.  Escorts/Erotic Companions do not.  Big difference.  I've never paid extra for Greek and I never will.  

If more ladies followed your business model, I sincerely believe everybody, providers and gents alike, would be happier.

I've been told that GFE means everything from kissing to cuddling to "unrushed" to BBBJ to...  

I've been told that PSE means everything from Greek to BBFS to "cock gagging and crying" to...  

Everyone interprets both of these terms differently.

In Minnesota, I was told that GFE and PSE are blended together.  In NYC, they are presented as two different things.

Personally, I differentiate between the two, by including Greek in the latter.

I thought PSE involved a clown, a bathtub full of baked beans and a chia pet.

You can call me a "prostitute," you can call me an "escort," you can call me a "provider,"...

You can call me anything you want.

But please..., I insist:

Don't call me "Stanley."

Hey, some great responses, thanks all!  I did find out one thing that surprised me, and that was that I searched for when I began using this board and I found that I was the FIRST real post on the MN board, 3rd or 4th in numeration but the ones that beat me were just testing.

you only have 6 reviews.  Surely you have seen more than 6 of our lovely MN ladies!  Yes?

to follow you in here a few months later, haha! smoothes !! xxxoo J.

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Is that a dig at Obama's momma?

Her name was Stanley...

ah, yes, I've seen many wonderful women and had a few stumbles along the way too, like most men I'm sure.  Still searching for the world's foremost french expert too!

I don't think about GFE and PSE in terms of acts but attitude.

PSE to me is "LET's FUCK!!"

Whereas GFE is, "let's take our time, get intimate, cozy, comfortable with each other and each others bodies, feel each other, play with each other, have an experience, make a connection of sorts, let's really enjoy this and each other"

Clipped from another site where numerous acronym ddefinitions are offered (at least in that context). Inbox me if you want the link.

GFE = girlfriend experience. Typically BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG
GFE lite = light GFE, girlfriend experience with CBJ
GFE++ = RBGFE with extras (like CIM,swallow,greek)
RBGFE = (deleted)'s  definintion of GFE (BBBJ, CFS, DFK, DATY, and MSOG)

No handy definition of PSE (other than "Porn Star Experience) but to my mind could include a host of other stuff including tea bagging, strap on, fetishes, you name it - short of BBFS.

I like taking my time and enjoy getting cozy, but prefer f**king like a porn star? I guess I'll make up my own term and call myself a horny GFE. I'll just label myself an HGFE..lol.

BTW..men that can fu** like a porn star are a huge turn-on!!

because I like it both ways depending on my mood or the particular gentleman I am with.  

Different strokes for different folks...

Whatever floats your boat...