Just wondering out of the blue if anyone had any luck or experience with this provider that posted awhile back....

I contacted her. Basically you pay her to watch her have sex with her husband. She said I would leave satisfied. When I asked her if I would satisfiy myself or what exactly she meant by that she quit communicating with me.

1. Are you looking for hobbyists to just watch you and your husband, or are you performing with us?

2. Are you performing without the husband?

3. Are you FS?

4. Are you GFE?

Answer these questions and and we will have a better idea what you do.

If you are not FS, how does one "join the fun"?

So your husband lets you go OTC for dinner and drinks?
Let me be more blunt. Are you at least offering a hand job?

I hope you didn't take it personally.  As a new provider, I've probably been overly cautious and have tended to get spooked whenever someone asked me something that would have been illegal or if they wanted to meet up right away.  

As for what I do, I certainly like to be watched while I'm getting fucked, but I also like to be interacted with while it's happening.  I also like to get to know my clients personally as well as I can, which is why I'm limiting it to six total.  Hopefully that gives you enough of an idea of what I do.

I did find six clients, but just recently parted ways with one that I selected (we didn't even have our first encounter, it just didn't work out).  I am now looking to fill that slot.

Happy hobbying!

I'm new, so I might be confused about the term GFE.  It seems to be used in different ways.  I've been told that I am GFE because I like to share more intimacy, love to cuddle, and love to go out for a drink/meal off the clock.  That being said, I don't do everything included in FS.

Hope that helps.

Since you use an alias, sir, we have no idea if you have any experience on which to base your opinion.  I realize that many guys believe as you do, that there is an "official" definition written somewhere.  You should note that this is far from a settled question.  Check the following, for example.

...for us savvy and experienced hobbyists. It's easier to communicate when we use the same language.


'Relax....it's just sex!'

Hard to blame the Lady for missing RBGFE, if she searched for GFE.  With Redbook having all of 2 ads in Minneapolis it's easy to miss.  

First of all let me say that I asked these questions for the benefit of my fellow hobbyists.
I didn't start the thread, I just took the opportunity to make the queries.
Most everything she says is couched in riddles and mystery so I brought some of them out.
This board is supposed to be about sharing and I probably saved a few of us from wasting our time.  

A lot of us don't have the time on our hands to have a drink with an unknown to check "compatibility". That is more like dating anyhow and is not the norm around here.

BTW, she is NOT GFE by normal hobby standards. If you think she is GFE by having a drink with you, and then giving you a hug for your envelope, then fine. You are not kidding anyone with some silly notion that cuddling makes her GFE. If she is not FS, then she's an experience without the girlfriend.

Oh, and BTW, I have nearly triple your reviews and if you don't like me asking questions under alias, that's just too bad.

wondering if one of the lucky 6 will shed some light - I was intrigued but was denied after the 3rd email or so

Pretty basic email convo too I try to be as open ended as possible.

... is that the moment an alias starts demanding you describe the services a lady provides, the sensible thing to do is assume you are speaking to LE and cut him dead.  Gotta watch for the envelope by his handle.  If it's not there, alias.  I have nothing against aliases, per se, but aliases who act like assholes should be treated like assholes.  

If the impertinent questions come from a frequent poster with numerous reviews, assume he is trying to put you on the defensive.  You can answer him if you like, but never assume a guy who is asking you to discuss private services on a public board has your best interests at heart.  Some women choose to do so which is fine, it's their choice to make.  But no woman should let herself be pressured into doing so.  

Anyone who bothered to read the ad would know the lady does not ask you to take a leap in the dark.  She offers a free meeting for drinks and I found her very pleasant and candid.  Ivy is not FS and she most certainly is GFE once she is comfortable, irregardless of the arbitrarily selected definition anyone may offer.  There are dozens of definitions for GFE out there, propounded by a variety of 'authoritative' sources.  When a guy picks the one he happens to like and tells you it is 'the' definition it is pointless to debate him.  Just tell him he's entitled to his opinion and move on.  If he puts forth a definition and demands you say whether you meet it, refer to paragraphs one and two above.  

My VIP is currently lapsed so PMs are pointless.

I find everything about her pitch frightfully odd. Narrowing "contestants" down to 6 like a reality show.
The "offers' of a meeting and drinks, I would surmise.... "just to get to know you" are a con as well..
She alludes to being a provider, speaks in terms that say she IS a new provider, but has "provided" little!

Oddly she pretends to misunderstand Industry terms that even a novice has a rudimentary grasp of.
In the same correspondence she is well versed in similar terms when defending her positions, but often when asked a direct question about what's actually "provided" she suddenly feigns confusion/vanishes..
As the above poster mentioned as soon as anyone questions ANY little THING..... she folds up her tent!

Maybe someone who has actually spoken with/seen her (since her con game includes back & forth "get to know you" email foray's in which you're required to confess your darkest fantasies & secret sexual desires.
Only then can you be pre pre pre pre approved for an actual phone conversation) can enlighten us all....

Maybe some of the great guys that she says she has "met" can verify her photos and/or alleged service....
minn4evr are you alleging that you met her for drinks, etc. Or her correspondence was pleasant & candid?
         
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I am elated that you have the time to waste to meet a girl for drinks, get her seal of "approval" and to jack off while watching her and her hubby play.

My agenda was perfectly clear, even under alias. So is yours. Doing it for the experience and not the money? Please. Don't insult everyone's intelligence.

You may have the last word on this subject. I obtained the information that I was looking for anyhow.

I have met Ivy for drinks and in private.  Her photos are real and accurate.  There is no ripoff, no scam.  She is exactly what she says she is.  I can't read minds so can't know this for certain but my perception is that she really is doing his for the experience, not the money, just as she claims.  That gives her the luxury to be selective, I guess.  

An alias who claims to have three, five or ten times more reviews than me is still just an alias who should be ignored when he asks impertinent questions.  LE can make the sames claims when hiding behind an alias.  An alias who claims he is asking questions for the good of the community is still just an alias who should be ignored when he asks impertinent questions.  LE can make the same claims when hiding behind and alias.  Aliases serve several useful purposes but are inappropriate for other purposes.  An alias who claims to be the definitive definer of buzz words is just like a 'real' handle who makes that claim.  Silly.  

Anyone who doesn't have time to meet for coffee or drinks with a beautiful woman doesn't need to know the answers to the questions that were asked.  Ivy wants to meet first for her own reasons.  Once she is comfortable with you she is candid and open and things get real fun real fast.  I don't know how she decided who she would meet but just personally I found the effort required to be amply rewarded.  

And that's all I'm going to say.  Her business model is so different from the standard backpage 'CuM c mE for a Gud tYme' model that it would be pointless to post a review.

Thanks..minn4evr

Wow you really have major wood for alias's....

I had to skip over most of it........

But i do find it difficult to buy into your analogy ....

Her business model may be different with her husband along for most of the "ride" or in the next room.
But she certainly can be reviewed her gigs not that out of the ordinary.....well maybe for cowtown USA.

HH

Thank you very much Minn4evr, for your insight, this is what I was looking for, I appreciate you taking the time to fill in some of the blanks with candor as well as being reserved on parts that should be.

Thank you

I think that precisely because her way of doing things is so different that it could be very valuable.

You're just too damn reasonable to ignore.  

Reviews serve a very useful purpose when you are looking to meet someone who is going to have minimal communication with you before you are in the room and have passed whatever LE check she needs to be comfortable.  By that time your money is gone and if you then find out you don't like her personality or the experience is not what you hoped it's a big disappointment.  Reviews help me to avoid that situation.  When I travel they are particularly important because I may only see the lady one time.  I want to know before I spend my money if she looks like the pictures, has a good personality, and does things I like in the way I like them.  Because I get a benefit from reading reviews I like to give back by posting reviews myself.  

None of that applies with Ivy.  She insists on a face to face meeting before she will even consider a meeting involving payment so you know exactly what she looks like and what her personality is like.  She is candid about what she will and won't do once she gets comfortable with you in that first meeting.  She has no interest in meeting someone on a one-time basis so traveling men need not apply.  There is literally nothing I can say in a review that she won't tell you before you ever get in a room for private time.  

Most of the sour grapes seem to be coming either from guys who didn't pass her test, whatever it is, or who are pissed that she is not FS.  Me writing a review won't help anyone pass her test because I don't know what it is.  Me writing a review that says she is not FS accomplishes nothing.  She told everyone that in her very first post and repeats it whenever she is asked.  I have already stated that her pictures are accurate and I'm not going to post a review just to repeat it.  

I enjoy writing reviews.  I like painting word pictures that help me to recapture the experience when I reread them for myself.  But the bottom line remains that reviews are posted for the benefit of the community.  If there will be no benefit to the community, and I honestly don't believe there would be, it's just mental masturbation to post a review.