I'm an occasional visitor to the cities and have in the pretty distant past spend some time with a couple of very special girls here. So I look forward to visiting the Twin Cities. (Just a sensual massage, of course )

Not so this year - I've made enquiries, booked appointments, phone calls, booking forms, you name it - nothing but NCNS if hosting, I travel 30 minutes or more to locations only for the phone to ring... and ring... nothing.

So a couple of weekends ago I placed a couple of ads on craigslist casual encounters - I hear it's all bots, fakes and skanky women, but nothing ventured, nothing gained I thought. Well, that weekend I got laid FOUR times by four very attractive ladies. All free, gratis and for nothing.

What does this tell us about the state of play in the Twin Cities? Not sure. But girls are either very jittery, it seems.

Every lady has her own level of comfort when meeting new clients.  Until you have a few references you will have to deal with disappointments.

Good luck my friend.

Well...get with it and post some reviews. Taking one for the team....let alone four....can only expand all horizons.

KZ

Your 7 reviews are over a year old
and you claim to be a "new guy"?
Perhaps your approach mirrored LE tactics from the previous few months?  
Did you have current references to prove your identity?

Thanks for coming in and getting laid and hopefully supporting our economy with fine dining and lots of alcohol purchases (to get those civie girls drunk)!  AND don't we all
love messing around with a drunk? They are so good in bed and what good service they provide.

Hopefully none of those girls give your name to their husbands or boyfriends!  Perhaps they will contact you soon with requests for money!
I'm sure you will find the civie girls who you laid to be alot more trouble than they are worth.

Naturally this is all stated with tongue in cheek! wink wink!  Hope you used a raincoat!

Providers are Professionals.

Just my 2 cents.

you paint all civvie as bad and providers the only choice. I guess you behave like that when you don't work but I wouldn't put everyone in the same bucket.

Just my 2 cents.

If it was that easy most of us wouldn't be here.  I am not sure why you are lying but I know that you are.

Re: I don't have VIP... and don't have any reviews to write... and not spending $50

Just wanted to let you know that we are careful here.  And if you say things  wrong on the phone or in emails it may explain why you are having such bad luck with providers.

BTW, if you are having such terrific luck with  women you pick up at the bar....why even bother posting here?   Go have a beer!!!!!!!!  

-- Modified on 8/16/2009 8:27:50 PM

Want me to swear on my mom's life? Seriously? Like, I'm a superstitious guy... SERIOUSLY? Consider it done.

Believe what you like. You just sound a little bitter.

Woah! Where do I start here? I was merely reflecting that the situation must be dire here if it's far easier to get company for free.  I've been reading about the situation with LE and actually I reflecting that my sympathies were with you. However, and you're being all judgmental and such, let's get a few facts straight:

- I'm looking for company, conversation, a meal, perhaps a massage. Not for anything that LE would be interested in.

- I have all the necessary information any 'professional' could ever wish for, and even instant proof that I am who I say I am, given a certain fact about me. I'm as safe and legit as they come.

- I have heard from 'professionals' that unless a 'client' is a rock-solid regular, appointments don't mean a whole lot. If someone shows and is ready to part with more that you were about to offer, moments before your appointment, then sorry buddy, you're cancelled. So it would depend on what you mean by 'professional'.

- Like I say, I'm infrequent, yes they're over a year old because I've been out of the game/state/otherwise occupied in a relationship. What's your point there?

- That's a particularly pernicious and nasty thing to say. I don't drink, smoke, take drugs - I'm big on being clean and healthy - and certainly wouldn't associate with someone who was under the influence. Why don't you go the whole hog and accuse me of slipping something into people's drinks? You're really saying more about yourself here than you probably care to.

- Boyfriends/Husbands.... as opposed too, ooh, wives and girlfriends of your clients? We wouldn't be moralizing now, would we? Because if so... hello pot! I'm kettle... say you're looking rather black this evening? No - they're worth every moment I spent with them. Two ladies are still in contact with me.

And of course, safety first.

You mention this was tongue-in-cheek, but it doesn't sound remotely that way. Sorry.

I do not paint ALL civies as bad!
I have a civie life-duh AND I do things outside of providing.

Someone doesnt "come back" after two years and expect to jump right back in-not with the LE activity recently.

AND VIP doesnt cost $50 but its sure worth every penny I spend on it!

Bacon will always be bacon and never anything else.
Bacon cannot be a tenderloin.
Bacon cannot be a ham.
Bacon cannot be a chop.

HA!

"I have heard from 'professionals' that unless a 'client' is a rock-solid regular, appointments don't mean a whole lot. If someone shows and is ready to part with more that you were about to offer, moments before your appointment, then sorry buddy, you're cancelled. So it would depend on what you mean by 'professional'."

This is absolutely not true. I have never cancelled on any of my clients for that reason. Someone else comes along who wants an appointment? They can wait until later or they can find someone else. I treat my schedule with a lot of respect, as most of the girls I know do.

Your observation is not well thought out and NOT necessary for this board.
Fucking civies is not hobbying-unless you plan on writing a review and giving up the ladies information.

Your observation is trying to tell guys, "hey, don't bother with these girls, civie girls are free."

Yes, I'm sure you have been 'reading' the reports you've written. The ones that LE has been pushing to the media. All of which are one sided and inaccurate.

If you have all the information needed to see a professional, then you should have no problem unless you are LE.

I would love to see your list of professionals that will not see someone that is not a regular!!
I am sure I know none of those ladies. Plenty of ladies see traveling men, SO your generlization is CRAP!!

Who cares about your infrequency? You're not a hobbyist SO you do not belong here!!

I know for a fact you did not find 4 civies to 'massage' you for free. You compensated them some how.

You must remember that we are a tight knit group and when one of you comes to proclaim OUR way is morally wrong we can smell the pork.

What we do maybe (MORE THAN LIKELY NOT) illegal, but if you go to Nevada, Canada or Europe it is not; tell me why we are considered criminals?

OK where do I start here....

You know what, you're clearly too... 'inattentive'... to understand anything I say but I'll ask you this.

You say you know for "a fact" that I compensated the 'civies'... That's quite an accusation! Care to elaborate on these "facts"? Bearing in mind you'd be publically accusing me of something?

No, I'm not a 'hobbyist', you have that right.

I am not inattentive and you cannot prove that.

FACT, nothing is for free.

FACT you said, "I'm looking for company, conversation, a meal, perhaps a massage."
So are you tring to back pedal?
You didn't compensate them with cash. You bought them dinner and they massaged you.
NOT FREE.

So, if you are not a hobbyist, WTF are you doing here? Trying to butt into our community to stir up garbage and lies?

Don't worry we can smell you.

was disrespectful to MN providers.  What did you expect would be the results?

Wow, what a great post! (eom)

First, you mention above in a reply that you are not a hobbyist. Great! Then, why are you here? No offense, but we have a good thing going on this particular board and do not need issues from an outsider. But you aren't really trying to be a pest, right?

Second, MN providers are not jittery. Rather, many of us are simply cautious of who we let into our circle as a friends. Why wouldn't we be? We are trying to protect both ourselves and friends.

Moreover, any provider who does not screen should be a concern to EVERYONE. And screening isn't that difficult if you put some time into. I learned how to screen before I knew anything about TER, references or verification websites and will continue to screen even if it is considered jittery by some, as it is considered just being safe to me.

Further, I see many regulars but that does not mean I am not open to making new friends. I will see new friends given they complete MY screening process. If a potential friend does not submit the screening information on the contact page of my website, I delete the email.

So you hooked up with some civie whores, huh? I used to be one too! Hehe They certainly know how to give it away for free, don't they?!?! The one thing many of them don't know how to do is leave it at "No Strings Attached". This is where it helps to see a "professional". We understand your need to go home and not worry about our calling all times of day afterward.

As far as NCNS goes, I think you are looking for the wrong providers. There are many of us who have NEVER (please allow me to stress this again) NEVER NCNSed a client. If you decide to hobby again, feel free to do a thorough search to find those pros who are truly professional. They are many of us in MN. If you need help on how to find such women, visit the Newbie Board as there is plenty of information there for newcomers.

Good luck in who...er uh...whatever you do in terms of hobbying or seeing civie girls.

Xoxo,
Gia

hmmm, i'm in my mid 20's and actually pretty attractive, and posted on the CE section several times in the past, unless it got better since this winter (and I know for a fact it has gotten even worse), I dont really grasp anyone, but especially the TC getting laid "four times" from it. That was hard even when it was working well.

Well firstly, I do have something that weighs heavily in my favor.

Plus, charm, wit and sophistication work far, far better than a baseball cap, can of bud and a picture of your cock.

Not saying that's you, but it is most of the guys on there.

The cities are full of attractive women who peruse CE for fun. And pretty much any of them can be convinced if you strike the right chord.

The problem there is, if you're used to paying for it or in an unhappy relationship, you don't have a hope in hell of grasping that.

Oh and I have a hot date with a 20 year old on Friday, I found out this morning