How could I pass on an opportunity like that to say something racist! Lol
Seriously though, I looked at her picture and thought she was someone else from the body rub community... I stand corrected... It would have changed my response a little to that hired-crotch that was challenging my thought process, but not significantly... My opinion of the matter is still the same, get what cash arrives during that time slot, and reduce services accordingly and be UPFRONT with the guy why you did it AFTER you've collected the money and his session has ended... Because any other scenario of "principle" allows for the guy to in essence "steal" from her by leaving a time-block unfilled and shorting her cash-box for the day...
What do you guys think is the best way to deal with the guy that sets an appointment and doesn't have the correct amount for the tim they requested? I personally will not negotiate my rates however, I don't like sounding rude when saying this..
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..." so sorry, Hun. I don't do 15 minute sessions. Do you want me to hold onto this while you save up your pennies and come back when you can afford to see me?"
Thats pretty much what I say if they try to set a lower rate via text.
He asked, you answered. If that's not good enough for him, he can go elsewhere.
When some one asks for a lower rate just say "refer to my ad/website for donation." This will make you seem less rude and will put the ball back in their court without any drama. They can see you at your rate or not see you at all. If they show up without enough then you have to decide if you are going to count before the session or or after. Confrontation sucks but not as much as feeling screwed.
It is not rude, and be careful about talking about donations on the first visit, it could be a set up. Make the cheap ass loser hit the road. Maybe that's his con for all his first time visits.
I always read the providers info for the rate or ask for a price on a 30 minute visit on the phone, BEFORE I get in my space ship and come over.
I encourage you to stand your ground.
I am always looking for a deal but would never consider arriving with less than what we had agreed on. Anyone who does so should be told to leave and not given a second chance.
But adjust down the time and service you provide him to fit the money he brought...
You still get paid something for that appointment slot, and as a business thats important to your cashflow and he will get the clear message that he gets what h pays for...
And i personally wouldn't inform him this was what you were doing until the money was collected and safely put away... Such turnabout is fair play since he is essentially doming this to you when he shows up unprepared...
Of coures you also have to keep your safety in mind regarding a potentially angry or mentally unstable client, so your stratagy may need to be on a case by casy basis...
I don't understand. "Adjust down the time"? But I thought we aren't supposed to care about the TIME...... just the SERVICES rendered. Right? So, shouldn't she simply adjust down the services she provides to fit the money he brought? For example, if he brought enough for 1/2 a BJ, that's what he gets. Oh, wait..... not enough of a BJ to get to the B part? Sorry fella! Maybe bring more money next time!
So I think you forgot to take all factors into account before you posted, because you were too thirsty to point out a suspected flaw in my reasoning that you overlooked the obvious...
I never said that we're "not to care about time" as scheduling and the setting of appointments does require some cognizance of the clock on the wall, even in escorting...
My point in this thread is that she has already set the appointment and he has already arrived when the "lack of cash" is determined... Now at this point, she has two options: turn him away completely and lose ALL MONEY for that time-slot of the day, or welcome him in, get what money he has and then adjust-down his service to reflect the amount... Then when he expresses his disappointment of the reduced-session, just rebut with you're disappointment in his lack of funds...
Smart-business would say "get the money", the moron would say "Bring more money next time" and end up with no revenue for that time-slot and no lesson-learned by the client, who will just move down the ad-list and call the next number and try his bargain-scam in the next massage-girl...
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I don't see that as a problem for a massage only gal like myself, it's YMMV anyway and better to have some money than no money .
Doesn't happen at all to me at all but if it did I'd adjust accordingly like you're saying .
Other than that gentlemen should know better than to negotiate rates, not just for courtesy reasons but for your own safety when seeing a new lady .
...her BP ad is for escort. Her TER profile states nothing about her massage abilities or if that's even on her menu. She's an escort from all available info. Why would you mislead us?
How could I pass on an opportunity like that to say something racist! Lol
Seriously though, I looked at her picture and thought she was someone else from the body rub community... I stand corrected... It would have changed my response a little to that hired-crotch that was challenging my thought process, but not significantly...
My opinion of the matter is still the same, get what cash arrives during that time slot, and reduce services accordingly and be UPFRONT with the guy why you did it AFTER you've collected the money and his session has ended... Because any other scenario of "principle" allows for the guy to in essence "steal" from her by leaving a time-block unfilled and shorting her cash-box for the day...
.... just noting how inconsistent you are from thread to thread, post to post. I would have also noted that you seem to have trouble reading a provider's profile, but someone else beat me to it. But I should remember that reviews and profiles aren't too important to you.
For example, I noticed you've removed the notion of reducing TIME from your last two posts and now it's just about reducing services. And for that I give you credit, in being able to correct your mistakes and move on.
I think some of the "inconsistency" you pick up is the difference I view between the "erotic-massage" industry and that of an "escort"... Massage is hourly, and you buy "time" sometimes with the option to add upgrades... Where as Escorting, you are essentially buying "sex" regardless of how it's worded to skirt the law... And within that pay-to-fuck structure there are "levels" of service that more money will give you access to and less money will keep you from experiencing... But "time" is more thought of as a "maximum-limit" than and "hourly-rate" and the amount of money you pay will effect the "performance" more that it will effect the clock...
You changed your tune in your initial reply to me above..... before someone else pointed out your error on categorizing the provider as a "massage girl".
I've had massages and I've seen escorts (and i've been massaged by escorts, but i digress). In every case with the escorts, I was paying for a great time with a beautiful, sensual woman. There's a world of fun things to do in the company of such a woman, a world limited only by imagination and personal boundaries..... and time.
So I have a hard time understanding how time doesn't factor into the equation. And despite your insults, I assure you it's not because I'm mentally challenged.
Oops! well then I would say an escort doesn't have to guarantee FS will happen either .
It also depends on the amount shorted .
.2 is not that big of a deal because it's easy to miscount when using small bills and you're in a hurry to escape the awkwardness however, any more than that & I question the gents true intentions
Everyone has given good advice. The lowballer needs to realize that his 'cheapness,' will probably set the tone for the entire date
By your rules, send him on his way.
the service you offer does not have a negotiation clause. If you have not explained the rate then the confusion is your fault, if you have explained rates in your add or at first contact there is no excuse or option to negotiate. this is bate and switch at its worst.
two messages; first you are dealing with a dirt ball. nobody with any respect for you will do that. We all have an opportunity to decide how much we are willing to pay. If your offer is clear there is nothing to negotiate. Let the guy know that pressing you on price will change what is offered. Go al a cart. "that is OK, for that price we can do a neck massage fully clothed" If you order the steak and are willing to pay half price then you get half of a steak.
#2 Be careful, some people are unstable. If/when you need to refuse someone who is already there do in with kindness and professionalism. "this is what I can offer for that price" with a smile, give him what he paid for and no more, then blacklist the guy.
take the money, tease him for 5 minutes, then right before he was going to cum stop and let him know he is on a lay away plan and he can have the rest when he brings the rest of the money plus a service fee.
She does mostly multi hours and dinner dates and does count the envelope before anything happens. When someone shows up with a donation that is short, she blows out the candles, turns the lights on, turns off the sexy music, turns on the tv, and pops a tv dinner in the microwave. While dinner is "cooking", she excuses herself to the restroom and comes out with the makeup washed off, her hair in a ponytail, and her comfy sweatpants and bunny slippers on.
I like ponytails/sweatpants and bunny-slippers on a girl! I'd probably pay extra for that! ;D As for the tv dinners, well, if she can put up with my farting from the beans and rice later when we're in the sack, then I'd call that the "ultimate GFE"! lol
For a new client I do count the amount discreetly whether in front of them briefly or in the bathroom ... If its short I simply say "Did you read my website? ... How much time did you want again?" While holding the donation and look down at it. The response I usually get is something like "Oh am I short?" or "Is that not enough?" I then say "For an hour?" At this point they are almost always fumbling for more and then hand me the rest. Its funny how often they are able to come up with the correct additional amount. I then thank them and continue as if it never happened ... When they make a return visit the amount is spot on.
Once at least that I remember I got some gruff and questions about the exact amount ... Arguing in my mind (weaseling if you will) and I just told him "I don't think this is a good fit but thanks for coming by". He left.
Btw congrats on your first review! PM sent
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If they are purposely lowballing, then send them on their way. If it is a true mistake, explain the options now available. I have been underfunded for Upsell sometimes and been fortunate to have had a reasonable provider. I always return and generously tip on the the repeat.
...if he tries to low-ball in communication before meeting I'll either simply tell him "No, I don't entertain negotiating or haggling" or politely decline altogether... might depend on my mood lol.
often times be the best deal for both parties. You're thinking ... WTF. I'll try to explain my position.
For 35 years in the "world" I was involved in sales for a "relationship" driven service industry. We didn't sell one or two big items and move on, we sold service relationships that sometimes endured for decades. Anyway, my strategy was to over deliver and just slightly under charge an identified high value client. This would eventually have a positive affect on the client, making he or she feel appreciated and special. They would invariably start paying a premium for this extraordinary relationship. Soon it could become mutually lucrative with the client getting preferential treatment and the supplier being paid an unsolicited premium for the same services that he originally discounted ... and so on, and so on. I realize that this example is told from a backwards POV, but the concept works in both directions.
So, hobbyist ... if you're with a new potential repeat provider, or provider if you're with a new high value client ... best not think in terms of nickels and dimes. Look at the big picture, make it a win / win relationship. The donations and expectations will work themselves out.
Of course, if the client is a dick or the provider rides a broom ... then ... never mind. 
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...the contract terms were agreed on when the client and provider agreed to meet at the advertised prices. If the provider agrees to meet at a lower price when the client low balls her, then she has compromised and it's a lose - win, even if the client promises to become a regular client at an agreed on price in the future. Ya, as if that's gonna happen.
Win -win can only happen before the contract terms are agreed on and both parties are happy with both the initial and future benefits of that agreement.
point, which was "don't under pay" didn't come across too well.
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