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"Classic Reviews" have gone away for now.
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Classic Reviews
"It is clear that in its current format the Classic Review feature is not what many of you have requested. We will re-design this area and reintroduce a solution that is more in line with the many request that we have received."

I do not understand how they would be able to re-design "Classic Reviews" to avoid the problems that it creates.


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Aliase_No.371635 reads

My guess is the "Providers With Something To Hide" was requested by providers that wanted their reviews be removed without delisting their profiles.

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oleoneeye960 reads

No sure what others may have "requested" but there has always been a bit of a dilemma in the past with the rule that delisted providers may not be discussed.  In fact our prior mod was pretty anal about that one.  One of the problems was that you had really no way of knowing if a provider was delisted or not.  I had asked for them to keep some information, a list or something, on these so we would have a way of knowing.  But when you really think about it, how can that be done without also keeping something in additional to name.  There are lots of duplicate names between different providers.  So without some additional info such as email or ph#, how do you know if the "veronica" someone is posting a 411 about is the same "veronica" that was delisted?  

Although I don't feel resurrecting old reviews is the answer, perhaps TER should consider a requirement that providers be listed under their TER member names so its always unique.   Then if a provider gets delisted, that member name, when searched on, could simply come up as "delisted".  What would be even better is to know the difference between a voluntary delisting at the provider's request and those that were delisted by TER as involuntary banishment.

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wingman13461335 reads

Your last couple sentences sound like a good idea.  At least we would all know what we're dealing with then.  And I also don't understand the 'providers with something to hide' board.  It's something else that leads to speculation without knowing what exactly is being hidden.

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MsDynamite1077 reads

I don't think its anyone's business to know why a provider is delisted. Why does it matter if you can't discuss them anyway?

Posted By: oleoneeye
No sure what others may have "requested" but there has always been a bit of a dilemma in the past with the rule that delisted providers may not be discussed.  In fact our prior mod was pretty anal about that one.  One of the problems was that you had really no way of knowing if a provider was delisted or not.  I had asked for them to keep some information, a list or something, on these so we would have a way of knowing.  But when you really think about it, how can that be done without also keeping something in additional to name.  There are lots of duplicate names between different providers.  So without some additional info such as email or ph#, how do you know if the "veronica" someone is posting a 411 about is the same "veronica" that was delisted?  

Although I don't feel resurrecting old reviews is the answer, perhaps TER should consider a requirement that providers be listed under their TER member names so its always unique.   Then if a provider gets delisted, that member name, when searched on, could simply come up as "delisted".  What would be even better is to know the difference between a voluntary delisting at the provider's request and those that were delisted by TER as involuntary banishment.  

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oleoneeye1031 reads

I imagine you could be right and perhaps thats the feeling of the TER admin on the current policy.  However, I can think of several instances where the reason for being banned would be valuable information of someone were considering a provider who is delisted but still active.

If delisted involuntarily, one can probably assume a violation of TER rules that are intended to help ensure that reviews are legitimate (although we all know lots bullshit reviews sneak through the process).  If a provider is discovered to have shill reviews from the same computer as the providers, if using multiple member names from the same computer, if doing a self-review, etc. There are other reasons as well, most of which are for more serious offenses (e.g. outing another provider or hobbyist) and therefore suggest a potential lack of authenticity or ethics.  Factors quite legitimate for determining whether to patronize a provider.  

If delisted by request, one might assume its because of her desire to be UTR.  However, she may have also delisted herself because of bad reviews.  This is probably why there has been a desire to have the old reviews available, so that guys can see the history.  Of course listing the old reviews totally defeats the purpose of being delisted so again it really doesn't make much sense if delisting is a policy to begin with.  

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vorlon1501 reads

That's been my problem with the blanket ban on discussions of delisted providers.  If she was delisted for some reason that would be good for other hobbyists to know about, banning conversation about her just makes it easier for her to get away with whatever behavior got her banned in the first place.

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MsDynamite1056 reads

Not really because people on this board tend to assume the absolute worst happened .
Hobbyists demand privacy and discretion providers should be allowed the same.

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vorlon886 reads

No one is suggesting that details about a provider's personal life be available on TER; merely that we should be able to talk about providers who are delisted for rules violations or who have a history of bad reviews.  Providers who retired and no longer want their reviews out there or have their profile pulled for other reasons such as stalkers or LE issues should remain off limits for open discussion.

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MsDynamite1443 reads

I meant as we providers can't post here complaining about you directly(not that anyone would complain about you :) just in general.

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bluwoodsman967 reads

Posted By: MsDynamite
I meant as we providers can't post here complaining about you directly(not that anyone would complain about you :) just in general.
No but a provider can dispute an honest, very bad review which will result in preventing it from being listed.  

Maybe I've grown jaded from experience but I think a lot of energy is wasted on a system that is far from perfect in the first place, expecting perfection will get you in trouble.  You have to look at everything carefully and trust very little, including information on this site.  Verify and double check and trust your gut always.  


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MsDynamite1185 reads

Another thing on delisted providers
Some are banned because of something as stupid as a bad IP address or duplicate profile, that doesn't make them a bad provider and shouldn't affect anything especially if they're still around. There's more than one Legitimate review site in the world

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