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Am I the only one?
brilove See my TER Reviews 3171 reads
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That misses the ladies activitely participating on the board ... All the sexy posts, intriguing comments and witty replies. I'm not talking about drama but the teasing back and forth. I looked forward to the photo themed days as well. Do you think that's the reason or at least one of the reasons? Has twitter and other social media started taking over and replaced the chatting I came to love about TER? Maybe it's just summer and all the lovelies are basking in the sun.

-- Modified on 8/7/2014 6:30:29 PM

613spades 5 Reviews 1744 reads
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Posted By: brilove
That misses the ladies activitely participating on the board ... All the sexy posts, intriguing comments and witty replies. I'm not talking about drama but the teasing back and forth. I looked forward to the photo themed days as well. Do you think that's the reason or at least one of the reasons? Has twitter and other social media started taking over and replaced the chatting I came to love about TER? Maybe it's just summer and all the lovelies are basking in the sun.  

-- Modified on 8/7/2014 6:30:29 PM

MadisonMalone See my TER Reviews 1585 reads
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How about a funny meme?

DJ1985 21 Reviews 2111 reads
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A lot of the fun has been sucked out of the board along with the sexy banter. Sadly attacks and negativity have reduced the local board to little more than a place to ask if anyone has seen the BP provider.

613spades 5 Reviews 1922 reads
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remylively See my TER Reviews 1691 reads
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Years ago, I loved participating in this forum. Witty banter went both ways. There was a level of mutual respect between provider and client. It felt like a safe and welcoming place. Especially after the demise of MFP, it (to me) seemed like a great resource for meeting people and staying safe. I met some very dear friends and regulars here, for whom I am insanely grateful.

But fast forward to 2014, and this board has become extremely negative, misogynistic, whiny, and overall not exactly a place I want to spend my energy. It doesn't feel like a community anymore--it feels like a place where disgruntled men come to bitch and moan about not getting their money's worth, or to brag about the hot, cheap piece of ass they found on Backpage. Providers are talked about as if they are objects. Reviews are increasingly graphic, lewd, and rude. I may be a whore for all intents and purposes, but I am a smart one, a feminist one, and really not interested in participating in this kind of chauvinistic culture.

Additionally--probably 'cuz I'm so surly--I also get almost no business from this board. Therefore, I have very little incentive to post here anymore. And my career has not suffered at all because of it.

I can only speak for myself, of course

mschambers See my TER Reviews 1694 reads
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Seriously... looked forward to it. Now I have less room to be creative... besides on my own site! Anyone interested in a cam chat room again soon? Ladies & gents both welcome to participate! :) I read the boards often but don't comment much... but when I have something to say I do. I love the interaction too, but you're right Bri, there isn't much of it.

Drumsticks 90 Reviews 1494 reads
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sweetkarley See my TER Reviews 2042 reads
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I agree with some of what Remy said Also :)
The photo themed days were great!!

FFSHF 19 Reviews 1419 reads
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I agree.... I don't care at all for the new format. When it was local, it was fun, and everybody involved had a great time. I think keeping it local meant a lot more to all involved....it had a personal touch that is now missing.

sweetromantic 157 Reviews 1598 reads
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I haven't noticed pics on here for almost a year and now everyone is just posting them on the ad board. (miss you Bridget, we kind of lost touch there)

jgoodman222 14 Reviews 1501 reads
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TER's decision to restrict discussions has had a negative effect on the boards.  

You can only shill for a gal on Fridays.
Ads must be posted on a separate board.
Photos must be posted on another separate board.

When more innocuous topics are restricted to a separate venue, the negative tends to come out.

Niceguyonwheels 5 Reviews 1564 reads
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I agree with ladies complaints because I'm fairly new to the hobby but I think I came here right before the board really went to hell (in fact I think I witnessed the destruction LOL :-) (being someone who is respectful and grateful for the ladies that I have met so far in the hobby I guess my respect comes through in my post. When I would complement a lady or ask a sincere question I got called me (white knight and a suck up or whatever the heck they call it) it got really old and I just didn't want to waste my energy anymore. However I do miss the ability to talk to the providers in an open forum

brilove See my TER Reviews 1545 reads
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After I posted I thought to myself, "oh shit what did I just start", worried that this might bring a bunch of negative replies ... Not at all what happened ... We are civil and some really amazing people still read and post here ... Thanks for keeping this more positive and thought provoking. There is hope!!

lockstock 229 Reviews 1303 reads
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the demise of civility has been the loss of the local moderator.  The local mod had a voice, and sanctions, and the arguments would rage and get very funny, and then somebody would be sent into time out.  It was fun at the beginning of a day wondering who would get (temporarily) banned or moderated next.  It was like kindergarten with swear words.  And we didn't have to wait half a century for something possibly controversial to post, so conversations could get close to real time. And we didn't have to wonder why a thread was taken down because we were told... etc. etc.  

AND there was genuine exchange of information.  

And the characters were more eccentric.  

And the reviews were useful.  

And, to be honest, this sort of stuff was fascinatingly new for long time.  When providers and hobbyists alike discovered this board it was like coming home to a relatively safe community (however delusional that was) that we hadn't known existed.  Nobody's surprised anymore.  Fox9 has covered it.  We are left to our own devices now.  We're just going to have to learn to be witty...

Makwa 18 Reviews 1379 reads
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handytohave60 1 Reviews 1429 reads
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Change is not always for the better, hopefully TER will see this and go back to what worked and people liked. Speaking of what people liked... I thoroughly enjoyed your Nat-a-chats and miss them alot. They gave everyone a chance to meet and get to know others, it put a "real person" behind the posts on here instead of just a name and picture. So many posts start out so innocent and by the end of the thread it has totally changed to two idiots calling each other names over a totally different topic. And yes Bri you are not alone, the decent people have just wandered away do to intimidation by a few. I don't know what the answer is.

Robert_BadenPowell 1492 reads
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There seems to be a general feeling, which I agree with, that this discussion no longer has the two-way witty banter, and the mutual respect between provider and client.  That it isn't as safe and welcoming a place as it used to be.

Limiting shills only to Fridays doesn't discourage mutual respect.

Moving ads and photos to separate boards doesn't make this board less of a safe and welcoming place.  (Although I think removal of pics from the local discussions was a bad idea.)

There's still plenty of room here for "innocuous topics."  And even for more controversial topics, for which there may be heated discussions with strong opinions on both sides.

But they don't need to be uncivil, mean-spirited discussions.  We can still treat each other with respect, and welcome all to participate despite their differing viewpoints.

The failure to make this board a welcoming, safe place for discussion without fear of attack isn't on TER.  It's on us.

GabbyBaker See my TER Reviews 1603 reads
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DJ1985 21 Reviews 1536 reads
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There is a natural ebb and flow to things, maybe you can be the one to usher civility back to the board.  
I have always enjoyed your positive and cheerful influence here Bridget. Keep the faith, things can be still fun.

handytohave60 1 Reviews 1678 reads
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MsDynamite See my TER Reviews 1975 reads
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Yeah, just when I got up the courage to join in the fun of our themed photo days they were taken away . :(

silvertongue1 14 Reviews 1468 reads
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I have a bird feeder in my backyard!
I miss the old boards too. I joined in 04 and it was a safe haven for P4P peeps.

MsDynamite See my TER Reviews 1494 reads
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+1 !
Also,
On being surly; I'm not for certain if that's true because I somehow stay quite busy with members here that don't participate in threads let alone write reviews here anymore for obvious reasons

brilove See my TER Reviews 1571 reads
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But I've learned to love it ... Using Twitter has helped me get to know others and their personalities quite a bit more ... Plus I get to see tons of sexy pics ;)

Try it!

jgoodman222 14 Reviews 1445 reads
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I agree that the negativity of the board is on us.  

Where I would disagree with you is the notion that board structure has nothing to do with it.
If a negative comment is mixed in with shill comments, provider ads and miscellaneous comments there is a less likelihood to be the focus of the board will be negative.

IMHO

tralala_xxx 9 Reviews 1421 reads
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tralala_xxx 9 Reviews 1542 reads
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As others have said the fun is gone.  Occasionally I've posted what I thought would be a fun little topic that would encourage some light hearted banter.  The number of reads is down and often there are little or no comments added on.  I took the hint. As others have said, removing the local photo day also diminished the reasons to visit here.  We have many, many wonderful ladies in our area who used to post photos.  Now there is very little consistent participation on the national board.  Twitter.  I follow it.  And while there are lots of fun comments there is also quite a bit of anger.  In my opinion, nothing really different from here in that regard.

So to those of you who do post sometimes, hopefully the spirit will improve.  As was written in another comment above, we can't do much about how the site is constructed, but we can do our part to change the tenor of the board.....if we want to.

2late 180 Reviews 1899 reads
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Quite frankly, I miss a little controversy.  There's nothing like a spirited debate to get the blood flowing (besides you know what).
   
Women and men alike have been treated badly here.  There is an overreaction to the mostly imagined lack of respect and misogyny.  In the link below, I challenged the White Knights (no offense) to give examples of where the ladies had been treated like "pieces of meat" and got no responses.

Ter encourages graphic reviews, and indeed many of the ladies can get very graphic in their ads and posts as well.  When I use a term like hooker or "whore", I mean no disrespect.  After all, I'm no more than a "John."

As far as us discussing our "cheap piece of ass" or when we may have been ripped off, that information is a big part of what this board is here for.  I accept the posts that don't interest me, and enjoy the interactions with you girls but this forum is not solely for advertising and brown-nosing.  
Posted By: remylively
Years ago, I loved participating in this forum. Witty banter went both ways. There was a level of mutual respect between provider and client. It felt like a safe and welcoming place. Especially after the demise of MFP, it (to me) seemed like a great resource for meeting people and staying safe. I met some very dear friends and regulars here, for whom I am insanely grateful.  
   
 But fast forward to 2014, and this board has become extremely negative, misogynistic, whiny, and overall not exactly a place I want to spend my energy. It doesn't feel like a community anymore--it feels like a place where disgruntled men come to bitch and moan about not getting their money's worth, or to brag about the hot, cheap piece of ass they found on Backpage. Providers are talked about as if they are objects. Reviews are increasingly graphic, lewd, and rude. I may be a whore for all intents and purposes, but I am a smart one, a feminist one, and really not interested in participating in this kind of chauvinistic culture.  
   
 Additionally--probably 'cuz I'm so surly--I also get almost no business from this board. Therefore, I have very little incentive to post here anymore. And my career has not suffered at all because of it.  
   
 I can only speak for myself, of course.  
   
 

DJ1985 21 Reviews 1937 reads
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You now have the board you desire, you can piss and moan and talk to the swinging dicks about whores, hookers and cheap pieces of ass till your hearts content.

2late 180 Reviews 1605 reads
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If that's what you take from my post, so be it.

Posted By: DJ1985
You now have the board you desire, you can piss and moan and talk to the swinging dicks about whores, hookers and cheap pieces of ass till your hearts content.

mnjohnny247 19 Reviews 1767 reads
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I agree with many of lockstock's thoughts on local mods and this board.  Also, we keep seeing posts about how hostile this board is..... really?  I don't post much these days but I do look in on our little board frequently and I don't see  all the negativity that is being talked about.  In fact this board has become bland.  Many of you will remember  that early in 2013 there was a big effort by some on this board to chastise those of us who were a bit spicy in our repartee (yes, I was), we were told “tone it down, be positive”.  Many of us just quit posting regularly at that point.  For the record I was never mean, but was pointed at times and so were many others, men and women who don't post here any more (anybody who has been around here a while will remember that we had a lot more active posters with strong opinions).  In my opinion we don't need more nice, we are “nicing” this board to death imho.  Again lockstock pinpoints the issue which was good local moderation, but don't forget that several ladies hated the local moderators back “in the day” (I was here under the old regime under a different handle as many of you know).  I think that this board functions best when it is a bit spicy and you need your big boy pants and big girl shoes to post.  Nice will never cut it, nice is boring.  

And for those of you longing for past times when there was “harmony” on this board, when was this exactly??  Let's see in the last couple of years we have had flame and white knight wars (remember the spring and summer of '12?  Trainwreck threads daily).  Early '13, “the troll wars” omg, funny but disruptive and on and on it goes.  This board is less negative now than it was then but it has become boring, at least to me.  I do participate on the General Board,  there we have good old fashioned wry humor, uncivil postings and yes, open hostility, but that board works and is more popular than ever judging from the reads and participation.  So much for the “nice” theory on a fuck board.  Controversy works on these internet forums, like it or not that is a fact!  I'm not in favor of ad hominem attacks on anybody, providers or hobbyists, but the edge, the spice if you will, contributes to the health of a board like this.  Good rancorous debate stimulates others to post and if it's not your “cup of tea” then don't participate., simple.  

BTW as a side note, TER does have moderators assigned to the boards, but the boards are not revenue generators for them and they seem quite willing to let local boards become dead zones.
Posted By: lockstock
the demise of civility has been the loss of the local moderator.  The local mod had a voice, and sanctions, and the arguments would rage and get very funny, and then somebody would be sent into time out.  It was fun at the beginning of a day wondering who would get (temporarily) banned or moderated next.  It was like kindergarten with swear words.  And we didn't have to wait half a century for something possibly controversial to post, so conversations could get close to real time. And we didn't have to wonder why a thread was taken down because we were told... etc. etc.    
   
 AND there was genuine exchange of information.    
   
 And the characters were more eccentric.    
   
 And the reviews were useful.    
   
 And, to be honest, this sort of stuff was fascinatingly new for long time.  When providers and hobbyists alike discovered this board it was like coming home to a relatively safe community (however delusional that was) that we hadn't known existed.  Nobody's surprised anymore.  Fox9 has covered it.  We are left to our own devices now.  We're just going to have to learn to be witty...


-- Modified on 8/8/2014 10:50:26 AM

Portia Eden See my TER Reviews 1482 reads
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I log on to here almost every day to see what's going on.   I like when I see posts I can comment on.   Like this one.    

and ones about female condoms and such.  LOL   my favorite subject ever.

:)  :)  :)

 

 
Posted By: mnjohnny247
I agree with lockstock's thoughts on this board.  Also, we keep seeing posts about how hostile this board is..... really?  I don't post much these days but I do look in on our little board frequently and I don't see  all the negativity that is being talked about.  In fact this board has become bland.  Many of you will remember  that early in 2013 there was a big effort by some on this board to chastise those of us who were a bit spicy in our repartee (yes, I was), we were told “tone it down, be positive”.  Many of us just quit posting regularly at that point.  For the record I was never mean, but was pointed at times and so were many others, men and women who don't post here any more (anybody who has been around here a while will remember that we had a lot more active posters with strong opinions).  In my opinion we don't need more nice, we are “nicing” this board to death imho.  Again lockstock pinpoints the issue which was good local moderation, but don't forget that several ladies hated the local moderators back “in the day” (I was here under the old regime under a different handle as many of you know).  I think that this board functions best when it is a bit spicy and you need your big boy pants and big girl shoes to post.  Nice will never cut it, nice is boring.    
   
 And for those of you longing for past times when there was “harmony” on this board, when was this exactly??  Let's see in the last couple of years we have had flame and white knight wars (remember the spring and summer of '12?  Trainwreck threads daily).  Early '13, “the troll wars” omg, funny but disruptive and on and on it goes.  This board is less negative now than it was then but it has become boring, at least to me.  I do participate on the General Board,  there we have good old fashioned wry humor, uncivil postings and yes, open hostility, but that board works and is more popular than ever judging from the reads and participation.  So much for the “nice” theory on a fuck board.  Controversy works on these internet forums, like it or not that is a fact!  I'm not in favor of ad hominem attacks on anybody, providers or hobbyists, but the edge, the spice if you will, contributes to the health of a board like this.  Good rancorous debate stimulates others to post and if it's not your “cup of tea” then don't participate., simple.  
   
 BTW as a side note, TER does have moderators assigned to the boards, but the boards are not revenue generators for them and they seem quite willing to let local boards become dead zones.  
   
Posted By: lockstock
the demise of civility has been the loss of the local moderator.  The local mod had a voice, and sanctions, and the arguments would rage and get very funny, and then somebody would be sent into time out.  It was fun at the beginning of a day wondering who would get (temporarily) banned or moderated next.  It was like kindergarten with swear words.  And we didn't have to wait half a century for something possibly controversial to post, so conversations could get close to real time. And we didn't have to wonder why a thread was taken down because we were told... etc. etc.    
     
  AND there was genuine exchange of information.    
     
  And the characters were more eccentric.    
     
  And the reviews were useful.    
     
  And, to be honest, this sort of stuff was fascinatingly new for long time.  When providers and hobbyists alike discovered this board it was like coming home to a relatively safe community (however delusional that was) that we hadn't known existed.  Nobody's surprised anymore.  Fox9 has covered it.  We are left to our own devices now.  We're just going to have to learn to be witty...
   
 

Derpdydoo 78 Reviews 1566 reads
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Posted By: DJ1985
You now have the board you desire, you can piss and moan and talk to the swinging dicks about whores, hookers and cheap pieces of ass till your hearts content.

Mindyzurgirl See my TER Reviews 1497 reads
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It seems "Mindy" generates too much negativity ~ yet under my alias I'm able to comment on & even start topics without that kind of response.So I will continue to read more than post......
 Haters never did bother me much.  
     

 
 ~one develops scars on one's tongue from biting it so often.
                  -unknown

Agnar 29 Reviews 1924 reads
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Hmmm... and the speculation begins... :)

Posted By: Mindyzurgirl
~ yet under my alias I'm able to comment on & even start topics without that kind of response.

minn4evr 42 Reviews 1513 reads
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In one paragraph you demand examples of women being disrespected. In the next paragraph, before anyone can respond, you announce that calling them whores and hookers is not disrespectful. Yeah ... it is! If they are strung out junkies being pimped by a predator, then maybe W&H is just telling it like it is. But if they are strong women who have found a way to support themselves and their dependants doing something they (usually) enjoy, then calling them W&H is entirely disrespectful.

Calling yourself a John changes nothing. You never read posts where a provider talks about Johns, because the ones who essayed that language got slapped down hard by indignant men. They got told that an attitude like that just proves the speaker is a whore and hooker, with no pretence that the terms aren't demeaning. Doesn't matter what you "intend." You use the terms, you disrespect them.

I agree with you that reports of cash-and-dash events are important and appropriate. But then there's the invariable response that "You were an idiot to bring extra money/a watch/whatever to the meeting. I never do that." Subtext: they are all whores and hookers who are out to cheat and rob us. Well, bullshit to that. I don't bring a wallet to a first meeting, mostly because I worry about the possibility of a pimp. But if I wouldn't be comfortable bringing a wallet and Rolex to every later meeting, I wouldn't see the lady at all. Hell, I've forgotten the Rolex twice and both times the lady called before I was out of the building. They are providers, not whores and hookers. Working women offering fair value for money.  

To a great extent, I think most problems stem from the fact that the men on this board are quite varied in focus, while the women are not. A lot of the guys on here see new women constantly, generally only once. In my view, they just want to stick their dick in something until they get off. That's probably unfair, but no more so than chanting White Knight and mangina at the guys who prefer to see a few women many times and develop some sort of relationship. (No offense, you say? Bullshit. Offense is intended when those terms are used.)

But while there is a wide range of attitudes among men, the women who post on this board are pretty homogeneous. Not in age, shape, race, education, or hair color, but in attitude. The strung out junkies aren't here. The young hotties just looking for a quick buck and cheap thrill aren't here. The women here have decided on this for the long term, and they look to this board to help them be safe and successful and known to the kind of guys they want as clients, to wit, repeaters. Which are only a portion of the guys on here, so they end up talking to guys who neither respect or appreciate them. Easy for me to say, but they need to just ignore the guys who are clearly not their desired clientele.

The one thing I wish everyone would keep in mind is that this is really the only community we have in this area for sharing information that keeps us all safer and hopefully happier. It's valuable for that reason, and it's worth putting up with some aggravation to keeo it going.

Derpdydoo 78 Reviews 1628 reads
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Posted By: minn4evr

   
 A lot of the guys on here see new women constantly, generally only once. In my view, they just want to stick their dick in something until they get off.
Looking for something a bit more specific, then "something"

UTRProvider 1462 reads
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Posted By: minn4evr
In one paragraph you demand examples of women being disrespected. In the next paragraph, before anyone can respond, you announce that calling them whores and hookers is not disrespectful. Yeah ... it is! If they are strung out junkies being pimped by a predator, then maybe W&H is just telling it like it is. But if they are strong women who have found a way to support themselves and their dependants doing something they (usually) enjoy, then calling them W&H is entirely disrespectful.  
   
 Calling yourself a John changes nothing. You never read posts where a provider talks about Johns, because the ones who essayed that language got slapped down hard by indignant men. They got told that an attitude like that just proves the speaker is a whore and hooker, with no pretence that the terms aren't demeaning. Doesn't matter what you "intend." You use the terms, you disrespect them.  
   
 I agree with you that reports of cash-and-dash events are important and appropriate. But then there's the invariable response that "You were an idiot to bring extra money/a watch/whatever to the meeting. I never do that." Subtext: they are all whores and hookers who are out to cheat and rob us. Well, bullshit to that. I don't bring a wallet to a first meeting, mostly because I worry about the possibility of a pimp. But if I wouldn't be comfortable bringing a wallet and Rolex to every later meeting, I wouldn't see the lady at all. Hell, I've forgotten the Rolex twice and both times the lady called before I was out of the building. They are providers, not whores and hookers. Working women offering fair value for money.  
   
 To a great extent, I think most problems stem from the fact that the men on this board are quite varied in focus, while the women are not. A lot of the guys on here see new women constantly, generally only once. In my view, they just want to stick their dick in something until they get off. That's probably unfair, but no more so than chanting White Knight and mangina at the guys who prefer to see a few women many times and develop some sort of relationship. (No offense, you say? Bullshit. Offense is intended when those terms are used.)  
   
 But while there is a wide range of attitudes among men, the women who post on this board are pretty homogeneous. Not in age, shape, race, education, or hair color, but in attitude. The strung out junkies aren't here. The young hotties just looking for a quick buck and cheap thrill aren't here. The women here have decided on this for the long term, and they look to this board to help them be safe and successful and known to the kind of guys they want as clients, to wit, repeaters. Which are only a portion of the guys on here, so they end up talking to guys who neither respect or appreciate them. Easy for me to say, but they need to just ignore the guys who are clearly not their desired clientele.  
   
 The one thing I wish everyone would keep in mind is that this is really the only community we have in this area for sharing information that keeps us all safer and hopefully happier. It's valuable for that reason, and it's worth putting up with some aggravation to keeo it going.

2136184 41 Reviews 1712 reads
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participating on the board has fallen about 60% in the last year. I won't name them but all of you know who is rarely heard here any more.

That is a loss. Hearing different voices is good and in many ways is as good as a review in helping me decide who to see.

lockstock 229 Reviews 1483 reads
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what a great thread -- impressively real and funny in places, old names turning up,  
but most of all I still want to see Madison's meme.

MsDynamite See my TER Reviews 1379 reads
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Posted By: minn4evr
In one paragraph you demand examples of women being disrespected. In the next paragraph, before anyone can respond, you announce that calling them whores and hookers is not disrespectful. Yeah ... it is! If they are strung out junkies being pimped by a predator, then maybe W&H is just telling it like it is. But if they are strong women who have found a way to support themselves and their dependants doing something they (usually) enjoy, then calling them W&H is entirely disrespectful.  
   
 Calling yourself a John changes nothing. You never read posts where a provider talks about Johns, because the ones who essayed that language got slapped down hard by indignant men. They got told that an attitude like that just proves the speaker is a whore and hooker, with no pretence that the terms aren't demeaning. Doesn't matter what you "intend." You use the terms, you disrespect them.  
   
 I agree with you that reports of cash-and-dash events are important and appropriate. But then there's the invariable response that "You were an idiot to bring extra money/a watch/whatever to the meeting. I never do that." Subtext: they are all whores and hookers who are out to cheat and rob us. Well, bullshit to that. I don't bring a wallet to a first meeting, mostly because I worry about the possibility of a pimp. But if I wouldn't be comfortable bringing a wallet and Rolex to every later meeting, I wouldn't see the lady at all. Hell, I've forgotten the Rolex twice and both times the lady called before I was out of the building. They are providers, not whores and hookers. Working women offering fair value for money.  
   
 To a great extent, I think most problems stem from the fact that the men on this board are quite varied in focus, while the women are not. A lot of the guys on here see new women constantly, generally only once. In my view, they just want to stick their dick in something until they get off. That's probably unfair, but no more so than chanting White Knight and mangina at the guys who prefer to see a few women many times and develop some sort of relationship. (No offense, you say? Bullshit. Offense is intended when those terms are used.)  
   
 But while there is a wide range of attitudes among men, the women who post on this board are pretty homogeneous. Not in age, shape, race, education, or hair color, but in attitude. The strung out junkies aren't here. The young hotties just looking for a quick buck and cheap thrill aren't here. The women here have decided on this for the long term, and they look to this board to help them be safe and successful and known to the kind of guys they want as clients, to wit, repeaters. Which are only a portion of the guys on here, so they end up talking to guys who neither respect or appreciate them. Easy for me to say, but they need to just ignore the guys who are clearly not their desired clientele.  
   
 The one thing I wish everyone would keep in mind is that this is really the only community we have in this area for sharing information that keeps us all safer and hopefully happier. It's valuable for that reason, and it's worth putting up with some aggravation to keeo it going.

Agnar 29 Reviews 1440 reads
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A number of different insights so far... I would like to hope the weather is at least somewhat responsible for the recent blandness.  Why spend your time on a board other than to take a quick peek when it is 80 and sunny out?

This post thread also reminded me of a thread back in March when someone had a different point of view.

brilove See my TER Reviews 1569 reads
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See the difference in the responses between the two threads ... I appreciate the way we have been able to discuss it this time and how many different perspectives there are ... Plus look at all the great ladies who have chimed in ;) love it!

handytohave60 1 Reviews 1702 reads
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You can be the new Queen of TER and take over for Leanne!!

noobtaken 1 Reviews 1365 reads
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For me it's probably good that the board has changed. Granted I'm a lurker more than a poster but given the number of stunning providers in our state, I could see myself in bankruptcy! So many worth the time and money, so little time and money to give. Such is the life of a graduate student. So to sum up, ladies, be not discouraged at the uncouth masses and concentrate on those of us who value a lady's wit, brains, AND beauty.

Portia Eden See my TER Reviews 1320 reads
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I especially like the last paragraph.   "Safe"  Forums like this is what makes this hobby/business continue to move forward.  It is up to each of us to utilize it in the way that benefits us.    

I love it that guys have a place they can check out who is good to see, who to avoid, etc.   That is such a time and money saver.   TER has got to be one of the Best Things ever to happen in the P4P world!!!

 

       
Posted By: minn4evr
In one paragraph you demand examples of women being disrespected. In the next paragraph, before anyone can respond, you announce that calling them whores and hookers is not disrespectful. Yeah ... it is! If they are strung out junkies being pimped by a predator, then maybe W&H is just telling it like it is. But if they are strong women who have found a way to support themselves and their dependants doing something they (usually) enjoy, then calling them W&H is entirely disrespectful.  
   
 Calling yourself a John changes nothing. You never read posts where a provider talks about Johns, because the ones who essayed that language got slapped down hard by indignant men. They got told that an attitude like that just proves the speaker is a whore and hooker, with no pretence that the terms aren't demeaning. Doesn't matter what you "intend." You use the terms, you disrespect them.  
   
 I agree with you that reports of cash-and-dash events are important and appropriate. But then there's the invariable response that "You were an idiot to bring extra money/a watch/whatever to the meeting. I never do that." Subtext: they are all whores and hookers who are out to cheat and rob us. Well, bullshit to that. I don't bring a wallet to a first meeting, mostly because I worry about the possibility of a pimp. But if I wouldn't be comfortable bringing a wallet and Rolex to every later meeting, I wouldn't see the lady at all. Hell, I've forgotten the Rolex twice and both times the lady called before I was out of the building. They are providers, not whores and hookers. Working women offering fair value for money.  
   
 To a great extent, I think most problems stem from the fact that the men on this board are quite varied in focus, while the women are not. A lot of the guys on here see new women constantly, generally only once. In my view, they just want to stick their dick in something until they get off. That's probably unfair, but no more so than chanting White Knight and mangina at the guys who prefer to see a few women many times and develop some sort of relationship. (No offense, you say? Bullshit. Offense is intended when those terms are used.)  
   
 But while there is a wide range of attitudes among men, the women who post on this board are pretty homogeneous. Not in age, shape, race, education, or hair color, but in attitude. The strung out junkies aren't here. The young hotties just looking for a quick buck and cheap thrill aren't here. The women here have decided on this for the long term, and they look to this board to help them be safe and successful and known to the kind of guys they want as clients, to wit, repeaters. Which are only a portion of the guys on here, so they end up talking to guys who neither respect or appreciate them. Easy for me to say, but they need to just ignore the guys who are clearly not their desired clientele.  
   
 The one thing I wish everyone would keep in mind is that this is really the only community we have in this area for sharing information that keeps us all safer and hopefully happier. It's valuable for that reason, and it's worth putting up with some aggravation to keeo it going.

613spades 5 Reviews 1331 reads
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Without ter and reviews I never would have started seeing ladies. I am not super active but thankful for the ladies I have been lucky enough to see.  

Posted By: Portia Eden
I especially like the last paragraph.   "Safe"  Forums like this is what makes this hobby/business continue to move forward.  It is up to each of us to utilize it in the way that benefits us.      
   
 I love it that guys have a place they can check out who is good to see, who to avoid, etc.   That is such a time and money saver.   TER has got to be one of the Best Things ever to happen in the P4P world!!!  
   
   
   
         
   
Posted By: minn4evr
In one paragraph you demand examples of women being disrespected. In the next paragraph, before anyone can respond, you announce that calling them whores and hookers is not disrespectful. Yeah ... it is! If they are strung out junkies being pimped by a predator, then maybe W&H is just telling it like it is. But if they are strong women who have found a way to support themselves and their dependants doing something they (usually) enjoy, then calling them W&H is entirely disrespectful.  
     
  Calling yourself a John changes nothing. You never read posts where a provider talks about Johns, because the ones who essayed that language got slapped down hard by indignant men. They got told that an attitude like that just proves the speaker is a whore and hooker, with no pretence that the terms aren't demeaning. Doesn't matter what you "intend." You use the terms, you disrespect them.  
     
  I agree with you that reports of cash-and-dash events are important and appropriate. But then there's the invariable response that "You were an idiot to bring extra money/a watch/whatever to the meeting. I never do that." Subtext: they are all whores and hookers who are out to cheat and rob us. Well, bullshit to that. I don't bring a wallet to a first meeting, mostly because I worry about the possibility of a pimp. But if I wouldn't be comfortable bringing a wallet and Rolex to every later meeting, I wouldn't see the lady at all. Hell, I've forgotten the Rolex twice and both times the lady called before I was out of the building. They are providers, not whores and hookers. Working women offering fair value for money.    
     
  To a great extent, I think most problems stem from the fact that the men on this board are quite varied in focus, while the women are not. A lot of the guys on here see new women constantly, generally only once. In my view, they just want to stick their dick in something until they get off. That's probably unfair, but no more so than chanting White Knight and mangina at the guys who prefer to see a few women many times and develop some sort of relationship. (No offense, you say? Bullshit. Offense is intended when those terms are used.)  
     
  But while there is a wide range of attitudes among men, the women who post on this board are pretty homogeneous. Not in age, shape, race, education, or hair color, but in attitude. The strung out junkies aren't here. The young hotties just looking for a quick buck and cheap thrill aren't here. The women here have decided on this for the long term, and they look to this board to help them be safe and successful and known to the kind of guys they want as clients, to wit, repeaters. Which are only a portion of the guys on here, so they end up talking to guys who neither respect or appreciate them. Easy for me to say, but they need to just ignore the guys who are clearly not their desired clientele.  
     
  The one thing I wish everyone would keep in mind is that this is really the only community we have in this area for sharing information that keeps us all safer and hopefully happier. It's valuable for that reason, and it's worth putting up with some aggravation to keeo it going.

smilin6969 40 Reviews 1467 reads
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It's good to see the warnings and be able to see reviews, but I think the moderators are killing the board. Anywhere you go, you will find negative people, but that's what ignore is for. I like the new photo board, but I still miss the photo theme days of our local gals. I remember when you could discuss a ladies availabilty and what others thought and they could also join the conversation. But now if you do not type your question just right, it gets denied. :( This has made me stay away more now and spend more time on Twitter. I love the free speech with the ladies there. Nice thread Bri.

buck1848 41 Reviews 1356 reads
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I talk for a living.  So I love having genuine, authentic discussion/dialog with others.  When we talk face to face with others there are well established rules and expectations that most of us tend to follow, I have to admit that sometimes and in some situations my filter doesn’t always work, but there still is a level of decorum.  In the cyber world perceived anonymity is considered safe by most.  People believe that they can act like knuckleheads with what they feel are very little consequences.  In my mind, the best way to combat this it to simply ignore this unwanted and disrespectful on-line behavior.  When we ignore these individuals and their comments, which are simply meant to get a rise out of people, we give them nowhere to go with their comments.  We all know that any of us on this board can make some ignorant comments.  Does this mean the person making the comment is ignorant, I hope not, but….

I think this board is a fantastic resource, the free flow of information and ideas can be worth their weight in gold.  My advice to everyone….  Make this board what you want it to be for you, don’t let other influence your posting, don’t give others that power.

Be Safe!!!!!

Buc

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Pretty well said Minn4ever.  I guess I didn't word my post as well as I would have liked, I didn't take the time.  Bottom line is that I haven't used the word whore here but I have used hooker intending no negative connotation.  

I still haven't seen any examples of hating or the mistreatment of women.  I didn't demand anything either, I asked for examples because I hadn't seen evidence.  no time for more now.
Posted By: minn4evr
In one paragraph you demand examples of women being disrespected. In the next paragraph, before anyone can respond, you announce that calling them whores and hookers is not disrespectful. Yeah ... it is! If they are strung out junkies being pimped by a predator, then maybe W&H is just telling it like it is. But if they are strong women who have found a way to support themselves and their dependants doing something they (usually) enjoy, then calling them W&H is entirely disrespectful.  
   
 Calling yourself a John changes nothing. You never read posts where a provider talks about Johns, because the ones who essayed that language got slapped down hard by indignant men. They got told that an attitude like that just proves the speaker is a whore and hooker, with no pretence that the terms aren't demeaning. Doesn't matter what you "intend." You use the terms, you disrespect them.  
   
 I agree with you that reports of cash-and-dash events are important and appropriate. But then there's the invariable response that "You were an idiot to bring extra money/a watch/whatever to the meeting. I never do that." Subtext: they are all whores and hookers who are out to cheat and rob us. Well, bullshit to that. I don't bring a wallet to a first meeting, mostly because I worry about the possibility of a pimp. But if I wouldn't be comfortable bringing a wallet and Rolex to every later meeting, I wouldn't see the lady at all. Hell, I've forgotten the Rolex twice and both times the lady called before I was out of the building. They are providers, not whores and hookers. Working women offering fair value for money.  
   
 To a great extent, I think most problems stem from the fact that the men on this board are quite varied in focus, while the women are not. A lot of the guys on here see new women constantly, generally only once. In my view, they just want to stick their dick in something until they get off. That's probably unfair, but no more so than chanting White Knight and mangina at the guys who prefer to see a few women many times and develop some sort of relationship. (No offense, you say? Bullshit. Offense is intended when those terms are used.)  
   
 But while there is a wide range of attitudes among men, the women who post on this board are pretty homogeneous. Not in age, shape, race, education, or hair color, but in attitude. The strung out junkies aren't here. The young hotties just looking for a quick buck and cheap thrill aren't here. The women here have decided on this for the long term, and they look to this board to help them be safe and successful and known to the kind of guys they want as clients, to wit, repeaters. Which are only a portion of the guys on here, so they end up talking to guys who neither respect or appreciate them. Easy for me to say, but they need to just ignore the guys who are clearly not their desired clientele.  
   
 The one thing I wish everyone would keep in mind is that this is really the only community we have in this area for sharing information that keeps us all safer and hopefully happier. It's valuable for that reason, and it's worth putting up with some aggravation to keeo it going.

noobtaken 1 Reviews 1433 reads
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Let me piggyback on buck's comment here. As humans, verbal communication is essential in how we form connections. I don't believe that I'm out of line in suggesting that that connection is the greater goal which most of us seek. Certainly it can be found physically, but that level is neither sufficiently deep nor satisfying.

Niceguyonwheels 5 Reviews 1422 reads
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I couldn't agree more with you portia I can tell you from one ter is the only reason why I started hobbying I wanted to enter the hobby for quite some time but did not feel there was adequate resources for risk mitigation (I know there is a certain amount of risk involved no matter what) but risk mitigation is very important to me because the fact of the matter is I am a part of a more vulnerable population so there is even more risk involved for me in this endeavor than the average client. And the fact that I can only do out call appointments makes it even more important that I choose my providers wisely because even for the first visit they will be coming into my home and seeing things of a more personal nature than the average client provider relationship may encounter so I like to have as much information on them as possible so that I think sure that there the right person and I do not have a bad or even potentially dangerous experience if places like this did not exist I would probably have to quit hobby altogether. So I am grateful for forms like this and I hope to see this one continue to thrive!

Posted By: Portia Eden
I especially like the last paragraph.   "Safe"  Forums like this is what makes this hobby/business continue to move forward.  It is up to each of us to utilize it in the way that benefits us.      
   
 I love it that guys have a place they can check out who is good to see, who to avoid, etc.   That is such a time and money saver.   TER has got to be one of the Best Things ever to happen in the P4P world!!!  
   
   
   
         
   
Posted By: minn4evr
In one paragraph you demand examples of women being disrespected. In the next paragraph, before anyone can respond, you announce that calling them whores and hookers is not disrespectful. Yeah ... it is! If they are strung out junkies being pimped by a predator, then maybe W&H is just telling it like it is. But if they are strong women who have found a way to support themselves and their dependants doing something they (usually) enjoy, then calling them W&H is entirely disrespectful.  
     
  Calling yourself a John changes nothing. You never read posts where a provider talks about Johns, because the ones who essayed that language got slapped down hard by indignant men. They got told that an attitude like that just proves the speaker is a whore and hooker, with no pretence that the terms aren't demeaning. Doesn't matter what you "intend." You use the terms, you disrespect them.  
     
  I agree with you that reports of cash-and-dash events are important and appropriate. But then there's the invariable response that "You were an idiot to bring extra money/a watch/whatever to the meeting. I never do that." Subtext: they are all whores and hookers who are out to cheat and rob us. Well, bullshit to that. I don't bring a wallet to a first meeting, mostly because I worry about the possibility of a pimp. But if I wouldn't be comfortable bringing a wallet and Rolex to every later meeting, I wouldn't see the lady at all. Hell, I've forgotten the Rolex twice and both times the lady called before I was out of the building. They are providers, not whores and hookers. Working women offering fair value for money.    
     
  To a great extent, I think most problems stem from the fact that the men on this board are quite varied in focus, while the women are not. A lot of the guys on here see new women constantly, generally only once. In my view, they just want to stick their dick in something until they get off. That's probably unfair, but no more so than chanting White Knight and mangina at the guys who prefer to see a few women many times and develop some sort of relationship. (No offense, you say? Bullshit. Offense is intended when those terms are used.)  
     
  But while there is a wide range of attitudes among men, the women who post on this board are pretty homogeneous. Not in age, shape, race, education, or hair color, but in attitude. The strung out junkies aren't here. The young hotties just looking for a quick buck and cheap thrill aren't here. The women here have decided on this for the long term, and they look to this board to help them be safe and successful and known to the kind of guys they want as clients, to wit, repeaters. Which are only a portion of the guys on here, so they end up talking to guys who neither respect or appreciate them. Easy for me to say, but they need to just ignore the guys who are clearly not their desired clientele.  
     
  The one thing I wish everyone would keep in mind is that this is really the only community we have in this area for sharing information that keeps us all safer and hopefully happier. It's valuable for that reason, and it's worth putting up with some aggravation to keeo it going.

oldguy666 65 Reviews 1419 reads
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I keep telling myself I'm not going to post any more here, but I have to piggy-back on this discussion.  
 
It's my third year in the hobby, and it's been a great ride.  After my first year, I posted some reflections on "A year in the hobby" (see link below...or search for June 12, 2012).  I was active on the board, holding the No. 2 slot for frequent contributor (behind vorlon) for several months.  It was a vibrant, friendly community, and it helped me get on my feet in the hobby (or, perhaps I should say, OFF my feet and into bed! :):) ).    
 
I continued posting for a couple of months after that one-year mark, but eventually withdrew, for precisely the reasons that Bri and others raised.  Unbelievable nastiness pervaded too much of the discussion...or else simply meaningless drivel or over-the-top self-promotion.  So, for me, it was pretty much "one-and-done" in terms of participation on the board.  (I.e., One year of posting and then done.  Not in the hobby; just on the board, as some others have also noted.)  
 
Minn4evr's "Dissonance" post and Remy's "my reasons" are spot-on.  Good on you and others who posted in that same vein.  

Oh that things would change back to what they were even as recently as when I first joined.

-- Modified on 8/9/2014 3:12:44 PM

2late 180 Reviews 1444 reads
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Great post mnjohnny.  You said what I would have liked to have said, I just blew it!  
 

Posted By: mnjohnny247
I agree with many of lockstock's thoughts on local mods and this board.  Also, we keep seeing posts about how hostile this board is..... really?  I don't post much these days but I do look in on our little board frequently and I don't see  all the negativity that is being talked about.  In fact this board has become bland.  Many of you will remember  that early in 2013 there was a big effort by some on this board to chastise those of us who were a bit spicy in our repartee (yes, I was), we were told “tone it down, be positive”.  Many of us just quit posting regularly at that point.  For the record I was never mean, but was pointed at times and so were many others, men and women who don't post here any more (anybody who has been around here a while will remember that we had a lot more active posters with strong opinions).  In my opinion we don't need more nice, we are “nicing” this board to death imho.  Again lockstock pinpoints the issue which was good local moderation, but don't forget that several ladies hated the local moderators back “in the day” (I was here under the old regime under a different handle as many of you know).  I think that this board functions best when it is a bit spicy and you need your big boy pants and big girl shoes to post.  Nice will never cut it, nice is boring.    
   
 And for those of you longing for past times when there was “harmony” on this board, when was this exactly??  Let's see in the last couple of years we have had flame and white knight wars (remember the spring and summer of '12?  Trainwreck threads daily).  Early '13, “the troll wars” omg, funny but disruptive and on and on it goes.  This board is less negative now than it was then but it has become boring, at least to me.  I do participate on the General Board,  there we have good old fashioned wry humor, uncivil postings and yes, open hostility, but that board works and is more popular than ever judging from the reads and participation.  So much for the “nice” theory on a fuck board.  Controversy works on these internet forums, like it or not that is a fact!  I'm not in favor of ad hominem attacks on anybody, providers or hobbyists, but the edge, the spice if you will, contributes to the health of a board like this.  Good rancorous debate stimulates others to post and if it's not your “cup of tea” then don't participate., simple.  
   
 BTW as a side note, TER does have moderators assigned to the boards, but the boards are not revenue generators for them and they seem quite willing to let local boards become dead zones.  
   
Posted By: lockstock
the demise of civility has been the loss of the local moderator.  The local mod had a voice, and sanctions, and the arguments would rage and get very funny, and then somebody would be sent into time out.  It was fun at the beginning of a day wondering who would get (temporarily) banned or moderated next.  It was like kindergarten with swear words.  And we didn't have to wait half a century for something possibly controversial to post, so conversations could get close to real time. And we didn't have to wonder why a thread was taken down because we were told... etc. etc.    
     
  AND there was genuine exchange of information.    
     
  And the characters were more eccentric.    
     
  And the reviews were useful.    
     
  And, to be honest, this sort of stuff was fascinatingly new for long time.  When providers and hobbyists alike discovered this board it was like coming home to a relatively safe community (however delusional that was) that we hadn't known existed.  Nobody's surprised anymore.  Fox9 has covered it.  We are left to our own devices now.  We're just going to have to learn to be witty...
   
 

-- Modified on 8/8/2014 10:50:26 AM

vorlon 119 Reviews 1604 reads
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Outside of one brief period of time quite a few years ago when almost everyone was moderated, TER rules about what they allow to be posted have been pretty lenient in my experience.  When we had local mods, the better ones made sure things didn't get out of hand.  On the other hand, as I have stated before, I have seen it far worse, back in some of the early years.  As someone else said, there is an ebb and flow to the board.  

But here is one basic truth.  The tone of the board isn't going to change if those of you who don't like the tone of the board quit posting.  Don't like what someone posts.  Post your disagreement with it.  But remember that getting into flaming exchanges doesn't improve things either.

ranilane702 See my TER Reviews 1437 reads
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of drama & BS.  When that happens, they leave for friendlier pastures.  Social media sites aren't the reason why people are leaving, but they offer a wider platform & meanies can be blocked more easily than they can here.  Just my thoughts...

-- Modified on 8/12/2014 12:31:31 PM

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