How many of you hobbiests and providers are aware of the NEW back channel group? (the one concerned with discretion) ... And the SAME GROUP that is threatening to out providers (Oh SO discreet).

I have so little knowledge of this that I'd have to say I'm unaware, or pretty much in the dark about it.

Such a group would be diametrically opposed to the genuine fondness I hold for the providers I know and the respect I have for everyone involved that is here with good intentions towards everyone

Some say its true, but with out any proof, wouldn't a bully  
have to really be "bullying" for it to be a threat?

and have seen examples of their despicable spewings.

but I've had some speculations recently, regarding some very strange emails I've received. Sam, if you wouldn't mind pm-ing me with more info, I would greatly appreciate it  

Would also be interested in hearing from you Narcisserotoid... Been getting very strange emails from quite a few people & I have no idea how I even got involved in something I had no idea or concern on what was going on... I'm lost.

first one is can you tell those of us who don't know who or what this is?
second : is there anything we can do to help you or others who are affected?

Things get worked out or settle down because its a bit scary and I'm here as I think most are to enjoy ourselves .... I'm still new to the hobby but in the last 6 months I have had the best experiences with everyone I have meet here, providers and hobbyists alike. I hate to see others hurt or compromised.  

but it sounds like we all should be alarmed?     Is this NEW back channel group both hobbyists and providers?   If so, I would love to know which providers to stop seeing?  

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unfortunately i'm not vip right now--haven't had the money to see anyone to write a new review--so i can't pm.  in general, emails were generated by a purported group of vigilantes whose purpose was to clean up supposed dangerous practices by a number of providers.  they were sickening, delusional, destructive, and idiotic.  (i can be reached by pm on another provider site--if you guess right . . . )

What dangerous practices?

I have no knowledge, but from monitoring the board, and certain posts, these practices that are supposed to be occurring,  lead me to believe that one provider in particular, has been accused of providing BBBF to multiple clients ?

She was supposed to have engaged in this practice in order to keep the bens rolling in, and also earn her a place at the top of the list of active providers, with the intent of placing at One.

From what I have read, and deducted from that, it appears that the posters, number more than One.

So the real question here is, who to believe ?
I wonder how close I am to correct with my multiple guesswork ?

the kind that self-appointed vigilante crusaders who are whackjobs believe exist.

Nope. Have read your allusions elsewhere but that's it.

I have been a victim of them and have been told I'm on the blacklist despite the info being not mine.

What the hell does "terms of delicious" mean

Haven't heard a thing. Don't really know what you are referring to.

One side says " He said/she said/they said this"  

Bravo Cat!

Anyone can join,,  

Hold on a minute. There are serious issues involved in this situation.  Sometimes adults need to stand up and take a stand, pick a side. This situation is not all bullshit.

I have heard little rumors, but really don't know who or what is going on.

well said!

It is called Projection, and as can be seen, the various differences between the civil war factions, are getting air time on the back channel, and eventually spilling out onto the public board.
Each individual, has a dog in the fight, and so, the personalities are going to clash, and result in conflict.

Don't kid yourself if you think a very well written post, is going to change anything, anytime soon. Although you do have the best intentions, You alone cannot influence the community to change. But nice Effort for attempting to do so.

Your heart is in the right place! Keep projecting yourself, and eventually, you may reach a few individuals, who in turn may turn the tide with waves of fairness, and balanced projections.

It's sad that some people feel the urge to destroy others. I had a provider friend in San Francisco who was driven out of the state because a group of guys decided to post horrible reviews of her under all kinds of aliases (different board, not TER). She was gorgeous, sweet, and apparently didn't want to pay off the right guys. She went to Florida for a year or so, came back, then gave up the businesses.  

THANK YOU, CAT!

they are not serious they have been escalated to serious because its the fucking telephone game

Again I am truly lost in this but as an outsider I'm scared ... Not only for myself but any and all of us in this hobby, not to mention family members and close ones who could be affected by threats being followed through on.  

sorry.  deduce some more

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some good points but one of the troubles in life is how do you deal with negative destructive aggressive behavior by a few (an individual, a small group)?  do you ignore it?  do you appease it?  just one person who just won't stop this type of behavior can wreak havoc, and then it takes the positive efforts of many to undo the damage.  vigiliante crusaders are dangerous--not just in this specific instance, but across many different fields.  they are fanatics, obsessed, psychopathic, and their behavior is driven by this.  if you view the community as organic, some organisms have immune systems, and immune systems recognize pathogens, and either destroy, remove, or isolate them.  that's the function threads like this serve; so while they might seem like blah blah blah, they are doing more than that.

I don't know and I don't care. I understand that there is a "cool table" many do sit at with it's own sub-culture and self-importance. This is not a profession for me nor is this my community. I have a life outside of this board.

1. I don't know - "But you know it all"

2. I don't care - "Then why post a reply"

3. not ... nor is this my community. -
 
  "Your in this TER community posting everyday"
 
4. there needs to be a "drama" section -
 
  "Here are 2 of them ...
   
   http://theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/boardinfo41.asp

    http://theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/boardinfo37.asp

5. its core illegal -
 
  "Looks like pretty much all of the Western
   Hemisphere its legal in, including Nevada...

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_by_country

6. immoral behavior -
 
  "WTF...

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73hnG_JfJ_k


And last but not least ...

7. I have a life outside of this board -

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0THMwP_MXE

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-- Modified on 12/7/2013 6:04:38 AM

"Having said that, I understand for some it is their profession and not to be threatened or messed with. Maybe there needs to be a "drama" section of the board for those that have issues or are voyeuristic. Let's face it, when everyone is engaged in a group that has at its core illegal and immoral behavior, there will be heightened tension and power struggles.  
   
 I am sorry that few have power to adversely affect the income of others."  
 

-- Modified on 12/7/2013 8:51:55 AM

although a provider (guess who) accused me of authoring them and a different provider indicated that she was also accused of authoring them.    Is there some reason why no one is posting them here?  You could delete the names and email addresses.

...of anything immoral about adults at play for pay. It does sound enticing, tho, I just haven't run into the right kind of ladies who offer anything immoral. I guess I'll just keep waiting...

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See, this is what I'm wondering why are these emails are NOT being made public? Thank you for saying flat out that you were accused and even a provider you know was accused, as I said before a good reason to use an alias when your honestly wondering whats going on. It's also nice to be able to say that you don't really believe it's happening, I mean sure I could be wrong but if you look at how many people heard of it, it doesn't look like anyone has
 (A couple gals say they received this email, but it seems like a JUST a couple) I finally figured it out only after reading Cat's post and thank you for being clear by the way.
          I have a little story for everyone, say you were bored or your time has been slow or maybe you've had a few and you want to get people thinking of, and even looking out for you. Maybe it would be fun to send an anonymous email with a bunch of nonsense relating directly to yourself, that way you get the damsel in distress syndrome and worse case at least your in everyone's thoughts. anyone who is bringing their problems into things like sexy fun time to the point where one would feel the need to post IN A REVIEW a WARNING to all the men and LOCAL providers: that if they
 "direct negative energy her way they will be sorry" well in my opinion it looks like the damsel's objective was met!

Never associate with people like that!
or liars!  
or gossips!  
or dramactic people!  
or anybody that wants to hurt other people!  

And even after reading the entire thread I still know next to nothing.  Some people say they no more but for whatever reason won't say anything clearly on the board.  If no one is willing to post clearly about this group, what it is trying to do and why (people usually have a reason for doing things even if it is a bad reason) then I question if anything has been accomplished here.

Let me guess....I don't buy you flowers anymore or act spontaneous or look at you the way I used to....oh, wait, based upon you taking issue with everything I say, I mistook you for my wife. Christ, I can't even get away from her here either..... I suppose I need to take you shopping all day today and then to dinner, and after all that, I bet you won't be in the mood either...

Here is where the difference exists with the Term of Acting, VS Conducted equals behavior

The woman is presently Acting, which makes her an Actress, assuming a role, and thus is an Actress.
And is projecting a value which is Not part of her actual core values, and beliefs.

However, the real person, with her personality, which is worn behind the Actress Mask, is an person who is not displaying a public persona.

Her Actress role projects an image of warmth, care, sensual erotic play, her sexuality, the great seductress.

However, The Real personality, behind the Actress
mask, is projecting an entirely different picture.
She is conducting herself, per her level of maturity, Her actual thought process, Which stands
in contradiction to the projected Actress role that she acts out.

You see, she is by the very nature of her two different roles, Two different personalities in a sense, there is the professional persona, and then there is the personal persona, and they both
are quite different in values.

So if this is the case, then the real manner in which to address this, is to say, " Maybe if the woman who is behind all of this were to " Conduct"
herself as a lady, this could go away, EOM

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You must be fun at parties.

Are you serious?

Why Thanks! as a matter of fact, I am a Blast!
I have lots of interesting stories to share, as I am a very interesting, and traveled individual.
But I only reveal myself to those that have earned my trust. So you likely would not see me at any Hobby related party. LOL

However, I just wanted to illustrate how a person can be an absolute contradiction of one's self, and of how some can be blinded, or fooled while others observe the actual person.

Sort of a case of white knight Vs black knight.
Masks, or personality facades are a real burden to keep up, while hiding the real person behind the mask from view.

It would appear that some have seen behind the mask, and now are intent to expose the actual person. Other wise known as shining a spot light
into the dark recesses to reveal the truth.

And that is the problem. The "famous" actress, or so she thinks, treats guys one way and gals a compleatly different nagitive way. She in no way "conducts" herself in any way as a lady.

Emmanuel Kant was a real pissant.

Wow again with the misinformation, I don't see anyone fearful of temptation!!
I see a small number of well meaning people trying very hard to let others in the know
  understand they don't fall for the bullshit that she can bring onto anyone (usually female) that gets close to her
 It's so damn frustrating that so many men can be so hoodwinked!
Temptation??!!!! HA!

who was very rarely stable

-- Modified on 12/8/2013 9:20:47 PM

Its about time, that someone finally spilled the beans!
Now this post makes a bit more sense, as it has an objective! It contains some perceived Facts.
It has Substance. It is Not encrypted, nor is the message hidden from plain sight!

So now, it has been spelled out, and even drops a good hint of just whom this provider is.
The post also clearly states, that others with whom she associates with, have allowed of themselves to be tools, at her disposal.

I was getting irritated, as I had to run my De encryption program, to decipher all these hidden, and meaningless messages. LOL
Thank You sir or Madam.

I still know nothing either... Lol. Just commented that I had gotten weird emails, NOT threatening, just weird & wanted to know if what ever was being talked about in the OP had anything to do with them. Instead I got bombarded with emails asking me what's going on... Sorry ladies & gents, I have no clue as to anything or anyone that's involved. I just like to stay in my own lil happy world & enjoy life as much as I can, every moment that I can. Hope everyone's staying warm... X's & O's -Dani

You are a sweetheart Ms. Brilove and I totally agree with your sweet little stance. Who was the character on Hogan's Hero's , was it Schultz who said "I know nothing" haha. The only emails I get that are icky ones every once in a while that other providers say is part of the job- you know , that I am an evil Jezabel that will burn in hell and how I am going to get there...well this saying for me says " Hell was full, so I'm back" giggle.  However they are a hassle.  Don't we all have enough to worry about and not only that but things to do to even go here?  I like being ignorant if this is what it is- so everyone, stay warm out there cuz baby, it's cold outside! brrrr J. xxxox

Call 9. You don't know me, but I know of you.
Once upon a time, a provider we both knew, pulled some low life crap! and then denied the incident. I know about the incident because I was on the receiving end.

You made a statement in support of said provider.

After some time had passed, Provider approached me through others, admitted to low life conduct, and offered me an apology. That was Classy of her, but her original conduct, Was Low Life.

Are you making the same mistake again ?

LOL!! YES! Way to point this garbage out, good for you! Be done with your nonsense you MUST know your on the wrong side  number9

My 2c's would be to say... clients, pay no attention. If what I heard is true, then I'm not hugely surprised and the behavior follows a predictable pattern, from what I can determine.

But no substance.

LOL. first off dude, you just busted yourself, as you have speculated as to just whom is the subject matter ? Who the heck do you think they are talking about ? There have been plenty of clues sprinkled throughout the entire thread.

On another note, this is Not some civil or criminal court, where to convict, one must establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
Some alias's have made some noise, and you have circled the wagons, to defend whom you Think they are referring to !
So the provider you are defending, probably has something to hide, considering you are so quick on the draw. Which would lead me to believe that she is guilty as charged. Big help you are to her!
Your not very good with spin control I take it ?

Finally, It is a situation, where there are 3 sides to the story, Their side, Her side, and then there is the truth. You and I were not there, So We don't know squat! But She and those who she offended, They know the Truth.

Considering Her past Known fuck ups, and her admitting to her fuck ups, well some of them, my bet would be on the side of good intentions, and get a life. The word is out, and you cannot control what others think.

Good Day Sir!

All in all, I think that the term " Gaslighting "
has been acted out by an individual.

I have experienced this particular kind of behavior by an individual.
Thus, by deduction and using facts, it boils down to a situation, where an individual, has conduct, in which they intentionally mis lead, by words and actions, and then in the process, attempt to bring doubt onto another's sanity. or recollection of events.

There have been many instances over the years, where an abusive individual, has gas lighted others, in this community,  and thereby mentally, and emotionally abused other individuals who are or were involved.

I think that there are some individuals, who have posted on this board, who have either been a victim of gaslighting, or were able to spot the behavior, and desired to bring the offensive behavior to the forefront.

Eventually, the offensive behavior, shall be noted with greater frequency by others, and as this trend or pattern continues, more will realize that the particular individual is a sociopath. And one to steer clear of.

Those who support, or otherwise continue to act in defense of the offender, are by and large, tied into the web of deceit of the gaslighter, and thus, can be viewed as having been sucked into
the lies, and misinformation, to a point where their reality is no longer creditable, as I have demonstrated above with my presentation of facts, to another poster, yet he still maintains that no one but himself is creditable. And of course we are all looking at him with complete disbelief!

Let the likes of him, and the actual offender go on with their brand of reality, but when actual reality catches up with them, they will then slowly slide off stage left, and sneak away, to avoid further exposure.

This is what happened to a few other well known, well reviewed, providers too! they got exposed, and so they put on the victim face, and then when not enough people buy into the bullshit, The Offender goes sliding off into the sunset, or UTR,
as there game has been blown wide open! LOL