Allow me to get a few things out here so we are all on the same page....If you look up my profile you will see that I have no reviews under this alias but I am originally "magicman404040" where I have a few reviews that are totally spot on if you would like to check them out.
   I have been out of the hobby for about 1 year now and I decided to give it a shot again.  So I decide to look up some of the best girls on TER and come across SexxxySam as she has plenty of glowing reviews by some of the most popular reviewers and she herself posted that she was RUNNING A SPECIAL on the discussion board so I clicked on her link and went to her page to check her avail. times and she has the whole month of Feb. that says book me...So I fill out the contact information with ref. as asked for and was looking for an appt. later that evening...Even though she said that she was wide open she was no longer avail for the day...mind you its noon...but would be around the whole next day...well weather gets crappy and I am not really in the mood for company anymore so I cancel and she tells me that she will be around all day on monday...which is today..I think ok, great I will just do that...text her and she gives me this line of bullshit..."Hello! No I am not available today, shoveled myself to my garage this morning and tweaked my back.  Not bad, but Im going to relax and watch the snow! already 4inchs"
   Wow, ok...how much money do you make watching the snow?? or maybe your not in this business to make money...She gave me a message later stating that she will be around all day tomorrow...ya right..its still going to snow..and for those of you who know where sam does her incall..she lives in a fucking apartment building...no shoveling required...I know that she used to be a great provider in the past but she has either become extremely LAZY or she DOESNT NEED OUR BUSINESS!! I am sure that other have had these same problems...so although in the past she was a great provider she may be burnt out...but whatever it is..stay away from this woman...unless you want to bang your head against a wall...sometimes you just cant give money away..I threw my 200 dollars out the window...that was pretty special...feel free to pm me or whatever if you want more details..but the bottom line is that she doesnt need or want customers at this time...good luck to all...and if there are any real providers that are better then this Scrub please let me know..unless this is what this hobby has become. Take care my fellow hobbyists

I hope you are protecting your nads, because your post has invited all the white knights to come out and kick your nuts.  No matter how true the facts, it is not advisable to say uncomplimentary things about one of the prominant posters/providers here.  

Trust me:  Before this thread is over, she will be a hero, and you will be the fall guy. That's what happens when you try to throw your hard earned money, at someone who doesn't know what hard earning is.  

Thanks for sharing your story.
(If you are a white knight, don't PM me, as I am currently not a VIP)

 

Thanks for your support...of course all the facts are true and am willing to take whatever ignorant people would like to say with a grain of salt...if someone is not the provider they once where...or is full of shit it is our duty to inform each other...if white knights dont want to know the truth, then so be it but we are here to look out for each other and this person doesnt deserve any of our time or effort anymore!!

Magicman,

She hurt her back, its one of the worst storms of the year and you are calling her a flake and a scrub for canceling? I think you need to calm down and try to be a little more considerate. Just my 2 cents.

I've read this post three times, and here's what I glean.  

You tried to make a date last Thursday, and learned she doesn't keep her website calendar 100% up to date.  That's pretty common, really.  

So you made a date for Friday, which she accepted, but then you cancelled because the weather was crappy.  But she still offered that she would be available on today.  That was nice of her.  

So you waited until today and texted her, and she said she hurt her back shovelling show.  It's snowing.  There was four inches on the ground this morning according to MPR.  But you KNOW she is lying because, although you have been out of the hobby for a year, you KNOW her circumstances have not changed.  I'm pretty sure she moved last fall, ya know, cuz she was posting specials revolving around that process.  But whatever.  

So, and I'm really scratching my head here, you decided to throw $200 out the window because it was special?  

I have only met Sam socially, but her reputation is good.  It may be that you have a legitimate gripe against her, but if so, you have completely failed to articulate it.  My advice is to call someone else and get yourself laid, and see if you don't feel much better.  

I think I would rather have a provider tell me "no" if she is not into it than follow through and give a poor effort.

That's just me, sorry you had a bad experience.

Have seen Sam many times and have only had one date fall through.  Totaly OK reason.  Inquiring mind suggested you see someone else.  I would say jackoff as I"m sure no lady enjoys your company.

Weather problems this time of year are a problem.

Twin Cities snow removal is such that, I can understand her not wanting to venture out even the day after a storm.  

I think your assessment was not fair.

dude get a life.

stop whining b/c you couldn't get laid.

You can cancel on her when the "weather gets crappy and I am not really in the mood" but she can't tell you she's not available last minute because she hurt her back and the weather is crappy?

Interesting.

Will you just make sure that if you ever contact me for an appointment, please use your TER id.
I just want to make sure that I never, ever have the negative experience of meeting you.
Your TER name is def on my DNS list.

That was pretty uncalled for.  I think you need to learn a little something about respect.  And maybe sort out some anger issues??  Wow..

Sam hurts her back and she is still expected to be at your beck and call?  I don't think so.  Yep.  The weather is crap.  And back trouble or not, I wouldn't ask any lady to go out in it.

No matter what the issue, weather, pain, private emergency, the ladies' comfort and safety always come first, as should our understanding and respect....

Unless you are what the hobbyist community has become.

And way to link to her ad, too!  As if this would be somehow even further humiliating or we don't know who she is?  Haha, now through all this she not only has vindication and support, but a spot of free advertising as well!  xD

-- Modified on 2/8/2010 8:46:20 PM

You are inviting others to destroy you!!  There are many of us that are avid Sam fans and hate seeing others trash anyone like her.  She has always been a perfect lady to me and have had a wonderful time with her.  She has always treated me well.  I have seen her once and communicated with her several times and eager to see her again.  Another thought...Maybe she didn't enjoy your experience the first time.  She isn't obligated to you or any of us.  Move along man!

How did you throw away $200?  If anything, SHE threw away 200 dollars since she chose not to see you.  I'm just saying...your expectations and reality is a little bit off.  This isn't me defending any provider or being a white knight, it's just the way it can be sometimes.  There's really nothing in your story that suggests you should be as pissed as you seem to be.  Just move on and find someone else.

You had one confirmed appointment with her which you canceled.  The other one didn't happen because she hurt herself (and for whatever reason you think she's lying about that).  That's life; unexpected things happen that mess up your plans.  Get over it.  It's not like the NCNSd you.  Why the heck didn't you just reply something like "sorry you hurt yourself, maybe some other time" and then try calling some other escorts?

Let's see:

1- You canceled an appointment with her because you were "not really in the mood for company anymore"

2- You didn't have an actual appointment scheduled and waited until the day of to actually try and get one on calendar

3 - She was no longer available (regardless of the reason) on such short notice and took the time to respond to tell you as much in case you wanted to see someone else(some would have just not responded at all)

4 - This somehow makes her a "scrub" and someone we should avoid?

I must be missing something here because it looks to me like you canceled on her and she never canceled on you. Your beef is that she didn't leave her schedule open to be at your beck and call in case you decided you wanted to see her on short notice. I really have no idea what the problem is here. If someone cancels at the last minute on multiple occasions or does a NCNS, then you might have a gripe. But it sounds to me like the only thing Sam is guilty of is her availability changing over the weekend. Gee, I wonder if that ever happens in this business.

I've seen Sam regularly for the past few months and she's never been anything but dependable and a great provider.

-- Modified on 2/8/2010 9:12:12 PM

Maybe he's upset because he asked her out and she said no, a la the "not girlfriend material" thread?

I'd like to bet the farm on Sam and the white knights!

Just because you HAVE a dick, it does not entitle you to act like one.

-- Modified on 2/8/2010 9:21:26 PM

How about that for being honest. No white knight here as I don't know the lady. However, I can see a man who seriously needs to get laid and stop being a dickhead when I see one.

You canceled because of the snow.

She HURT HERSELF, and offered to see you again another day because she wants to give herself time to recover and

You bring attention to this because what?

You STILL have $200 in your pocket?

You sir, are an unrealistic and impatient dickhead with a God Complex.

Go Shovel Some Snow Already.


Love Rae

*Incidentally, it was beautiful here today in Florida. Gorgeous weather. It was so nice I went and jumped in the pool for a quick swim before taking my dog for a run. I am SO glad I do not live year round in Minnesota

Sam is and always has been a class act and an asset to the community.  

When you're in this hobby; whether a provider or hobbiest, you are never guaranteed anyones time. Bottom line.

If I could give you a dime for every time I've had people cancel on me within an hour of your appointment, you'd be getting free tricks for a lifetime. Do you know what I say when someone calls me to cancel even 15 minutes before their appointment when I know they're coming from 20 miles away? I say "Thank you so much for letting me know! Let's try rebook soon!"

I think most people have a "2-3 strikes and you're out" rule. I'm not telling you what to do or think but perhaps being reasonable could be a potential option for you in the future.

On a side note, have you thought that perhaps something more personal happened but she didn't feel like sharing? Like her "monthly bill" came early or something?

I'm just saying, these things happen. I'm sorry for you feeling "inconvenienced", none the less but Sam is a rockstar so throwing her under the bus is certainly uncalled for.

Is it just me or does everyone seem very tense lately? Why can we all just get along? Haha

You left the hobby for a year, so sorry to hear that you came back at all.

So she wasn't available at the drop of a hat for you to see when you contacted her at noon to see her that evening. Aww poor baby, we'll cry you a river right here and there.

But, you then book her for the next day, only to cancel on her. At that point, she's perfectly in her rights not to even take your call again. You didn't specify how much notice you gave her, but I'm guessing from your general attitude it wasn't much notice.

And now you call her a flake because she hurt her back shovelling snow?

Once again, this board shows why MN is persona non grata on so many touring ladies schedules. When I used to tour (I don't anymore), this was one city that hell would have frozen over before I visited. Men (I use the term loosely) like you are exactly why.

You can bet your last dime she will not see you now or ever.

and you can also bet the thousand pair of provider eyes that just read this are going to have perfect recall when you are suffering from a bad case of blue balls!


.................kisses

I tried my hardest not to respond to this & made sure I went back and read it twice. So let me get this straight.... You contact then you cancel then she says she's available in the future you don't prebook and you expect her to hold your spot....If she was booked or if she really did tweek her back.


Plz........

Sounds pretty harsh to me..

Kyla

Hey Magic Man, GROW UP, QUIT WHINING! (eom)

Comments:

[If your dating style is always last minute(same day) PRESCREEN ahead of time or simply use CL/BP and take your chances.  You didn't do either YOUR bad!

Finding a reputable lady that does screening that you have NOT met previously is a RARE thing to get verified and see her same day unless all the stars are aligned properly.]

Potential red Flags for her IF she knew this:

"If you look up my profile you will see that I have no reviews under this alias but I am originally "magicman404040" where I have a few reviews that are totally spot on if you would like to check them out."

[The change of names is commonly viewed as running from something unless it was due to some of the incidents locallly last summer, but then the old name would have been deleted- would it not?  The new alias in this situation makes you look suspect at best!]

The lady in question(in your words):

"So I decide to look up some of the best girls on TER and come across SexxxySam as she has plenty of glowing reviews by some of the most popular reviewers and she herself posted that she was RUNNING A SPECIAL"

The facts as they happened:

"So I fill out the contact information with ref. as asked for and was looking for an appt. later that evening..."

[When did you fill out the form?  Below you say it was noon, noon when you started the process or noon when she contacted you to confirm?]

"Even though she said that she was wide open she was no longer avail for the day...mind you its noon...but would be around the whole next day..."

[She said she was wide open...in email, on the phone or were you assuming this while looking at her calander?  Then she gives you the option of teh following day and you accepted. Correct?]

"well weather gets crappy and I am not really in the mood for company anymore so I cancel and she tells me that she will be around all day on monday"

[At this point, you were upset she was not available the same day you contacted her-refer to my comment at the bigining as to why you did not prepare right and it cost you.  BUT, she offered a date the next day, you should have said NO and moved on because you were already pissed, right!  So, you acepted the date anyway, now the ball is in YOUR hands because YOU accepted it! This weather bulshit is rediculous and I would not reschedule with a lady that cancelled due to weather, she was being nice!  In today's techno age where you can get the weather on your phone, radio, TV there is no reason not to know the weather ahead of time.  If you don't like driving in snow, don't make appointments, guys or ladies.  This is NO excuse period!

"which is today..I think ok, great I will just do that...text her and she gives me this line of bullshit..."Hello! No I am not available today, shoveled myself to my garage this morning and tweaked my back.  Not bad, but Im going to relax and watch the snow! already 4inchs"

[She really needed to be dead straight honest with you on this one.  You already set a date for a day it snowed and cancelled due to the weather and then you set another date when it has been sbowing and was STILL snowing!  If she hurt her back, you need to accept that, if she blew you off by blaming it on herself, you shoud have expected that!  At best she was giving you a second chance, thinking it was not the weather and had second thoughts.]

"She gave me a message later stating that she will be around all day tomorrow...ya right..its still going to snow..and for those of you who know where sam does her incall..she lives in a fucking apartment building...no shoveling required"

[Can you say BEATING A DEAD HORSE!  You blamed the weather for YOU cancelling, she blamed the weather for HER cancelling, at what point do you both just realised this date is NOT HAPPENING until the WEATHER gets better?]

"I know that she used to be a great provider in the past but she has either become extremely LAZY or she DOESNT NEED OUR BUSINESS!! I am sure that other have had these same problems...so although in the past she was a great provider she may be burnt out...but whatever it is..stay away from this woman...unless you want to bang your head against a wall...sometimes you just cant give money away.."

[Whether or not she is a bad provider now or was a great provider in the past has no bearing on this entire weekend.  One appointment was set and YOU cancelled it.  You came out on a public board and bitched about you cancelling a date with a lady and her not following through on a second and third opportunity.  She could have come out when you cancelled that first night but she didn't, I am surprised she offered follow ups to be honest, she may have done it just to test you out.  You cancelled because of weather and then called for the next day she offered when it was still bad weather.  If she was testing your reason you failed misserably, by calling her for another appointment on a day it was snowing!

Up until this point, you were just making a fool of yourself by complaining about her doing something to you that you did to her first.  DRAMA!

Bashing her and trying to make her look bad for something you started, now you not only pissed off one lady, but more than likely(and from a few of the earlier comments from other ladies) put yourself in a position where other ladies will not see you AND many will actually talk negatively about you if asked or the subject comes up on the provider board in the future]

"sometimes you just cant give money away..I threw my 200 dollars out the window..."

[I'll give you a Paypall account number, you can GIVE me money anytime you want, I'll even go fuck the shit out of Sam and tell you how much fun I had!  You can always GIVE money away, now you never mentioned giving Sam andy money or showing up and then leaving and her requesting the donation anyway.  That would have been an important detail to share if something like that happened

So I don't see how you pissed any money away at all.]

"that was pretty special...feel free to pm me or whatever if you want more details.."

[If you had more details, since you pretty much shit on her in this post, it would have been advantageous to share them now and try and support your statements, don't you think?]

"but the bottom line is that she doesnt need or want customers at this time..."

[The real bottom line is she won't see YOU now or ever and most likely a few other ladies as well]

"and if there are any real providers that are better then this Scrub please let me know..unless this is what this hobby has become."

[When have you known a lady to contact a complete stranger and set up an appointment?  Not in my over 25 years dating ladies, I usually have to be a customer and make the first contact, but that is just my experience.  If there are ladies that will call strangers, after you just insulted them all by asking if any of them are real, it is probably a good assumption that they won't contact you now!  BTW, the new hobby has changed a little bit, ladies and guys expect more from each other than in the past before there were review sites.  Verifying client is common, but you can still do CL and the Street walkers, most of them don't, and they like same day work!

Best case scenario, Sam grows a pair of angels wings and applies for sainthood and will still see you!  Worst case, she played you for cancelling on her in the first place.  Personally, I think it is somewhere in between the two, but a safe bet is you should move on!]

"good luck to all...and  Take care my fellow hobbyists "

[Thses two statements make it sound like you are done with the hobby, it might not be a bad thing for you, you sound to be very fustrated right now.  To be honest, when your head is not clear, is the time you start making mistakes and get yourself in real hot water!  Remember this is an illegal hobby and keeping a clear head is very important for everyone to remain SAFE!]

The anger you're displaying is inappropriate.  

Read this article when you get a chance.  

Being disproportionately upset because you feel you were lied to suggests BPD.

Give me a break.

You cancelled on her because you "fell out of the mood" and she told you that she hurt herself (which you don't actually have a reason to disbelieve...seeing as though you don't know if her incall apartment is actually her residence or if she was shoveling snow elsewhere).

You think that you have a right to arbitrarily cancel a booked appointment for no good reason and that she's supposed to be available at your beck and call with a smile?

You need to grow up.

Read Madalyn's link about anger. The only other thing I'm gonna say is this...you say you would not reschedule with a lady who cancels due to weather...Really...what an ass you are, you must be one of those guys who drive no matter what the conditions are and end up in the ditch. I live in a rural area and must travel to hobby, I would NEVER travel on bad roads to just get laid, I have WAY more important things going on in my life to risk it driving anywhere for a piece of ass. Mna you are dumb and I question your priorities in life.
BTW Madalyn...it's been too long.

White knights who are going to feel sad she hurt herself and offer to shovel snow for her LOL.

I posted once that my car was buried in passing on my board and I got about 10 emails from dudes offering to swing by and shovel snow for me.

Ah well, at least you tried.  Go save up for another year..better luck next time.

bring a snorkel. Nothing better in weather like this than a hot tub full of bubbles, diving for treasure.

Well I am happy that this is getting so much attention.  OF course it is hard for me to get out all the details of every lil thing that happened but I can careless if you are not on my side...I did my part to INFORM you all how this PROVIDER has become and I will leave it at that...as far as other PROVIDERS saying that they dont want to see me now ANN RAE lol...um, your not hurting my feeling any...and um, if I wanted to see you I would have contacted you!! but I am done with this thread and looking at it...I got my point across...as far as changing my name and shit like that...i am not running from anything, I have moved and just decided to change it...also, I have had as many PM's from people as people posting under this thread...and just because they dont wish to take the sorry attempts of attacks from you white clowns...i mean knights doesnt mean that there are not a lot of people out there that know what I am talking about...and um sam is to lazy to shovel...idiots!! funny all you people think a person like same would even own a shovel....for those who question her new residence...they obv shouldnt comment because they dont know shit...its an apartment building that she lives in...im away from the game for a year and I know more then all this white knights who havent taken a break...lmao

With that attitude no wonder...

I wish so much that we could out names on here!!!!!  A handle is a joke!!  But here's my side to the story, and I'm leaving it at that, i already texted mr jerkoff, so i'm sure he'll copy and paste that to.

He asked for an appt last week, with the snow and time(snow was done, roads were fine) he said he couldn't make it to my house and then to work with enough time that night.  Ok, fine, no prob, 2 hours notice, guess I was ok with that.  So he emails me a whole bunch of times asking about my specials, half hour rates, price, services, etc, and I flat out tell him, that everything is on my website.  So he appoligizes.  Next day, so are you avaialable at all today?  Sunday...,My website and ter said sunday til noon, anyone in their right mind wouldn't ask someone for an appt during the Super Bowl if they had a brain!!  So I said no, but Monday I would be.  Ok, so monday at 11 he asks me if I have any time then.  I tell him i tweaked my back a little.  Forgive me that I didn't take myself off my calendar's availability, what a shame.  So I told him I was around on Tuesday, well, he said he was busy for the rest of the week and would stop bothering me.  GOOD, but then a post like this today?  Dude needs a life!!  Things come up in our lives just like when you guys have to change things, or cancel cuz you're sick or what not.  
Moral of the story, talk bad about me on a board when it's the furthest from the truth, and I appreciate the free advertisement very much!!

What a dork dude!!  Get a life!  Oh and don't forget to tell the other girls how cheap you are, and make sure they extend specials for you!!!!

We all know that it is literally impossible for a provider to behave poorly. It NEVER happens! We must defend her honor against this baseless claim.

God forbid that this board be used as intended, for information

Yeah, providers fuck up too.  And free information exchange should be included.

Having a tantrum and trying to smear someone because you couldn't get your way is very different than being professional mistreated and the responses in this thread have nothing to do with White Knighting.  Call it like it is...but this poster is irrational and disproportionately angry to what occurred in the situation.

What would you like me to do? Burn his house down?

The guy makes same day appointments, yet can't read the weather reports?

No I would not cancel due to weather, I would be smart enough to look at the weather report and not schedule!  You make assumptions about me when you know nothing about me, other than I don't cancel due to weather.  I even made reference to reading, listening, or watching weather reports BEFORE setting an appointment so there would be no need to cancel would there?

You should read the anger report, as my name states, I take my time to plan, so I do not need to cancel for stupid reasons.  And it was not me doing name calling, that would be YOU.  I can proudly say I have been driving for over 30 years with not a single ticket and never been in the ditch over stupid driving.  Do yourself a favor, keep your mouth shut so you don't look stupid when you open it!

Lady or guy, if the weather says 10 inches of snow coming or icy roads expected, rent a movie and stay in, wait it out, no need to be greedy and schedule during those days and then cancel.  ARE YOU READUING THIS CLEARLY?  Has nothing to do with anger, it has to do with proper planning!

Someone clearly didn't read the fools post???... it is in every right for a gal to not see someone for whatever the reason

"Once again, this board shows why MN is persona non grata on so many touring ladies schedules. When I used to tour (I don't anymore), this was one city that hell would have frozen over before I visited. Men (I use the term loosely) like you are exactly why."

This is complete nonsense.  You decided not to come here when you were touring, that is fine.  But to say that MN board is worse than others, not really true.  There are only a handful of active boards and they all have their whiners, white knights and people(both men and women) that simply like to stir shit up.

Ladies and men choose not to travel to certain areas for a myriad of reasons.  I don't think MN suffers at all for the lack of touring ladies and for the most part, the well traveled ladies I think do well here.  

We certainly won't compare to NYC or places like that with HUGE population bases, but that is not because of the quality of men here.

but she's supposed to work with a back injury ?

and if she was lying, she must have damn good instincts.

nice dodge sam.

Had trouble with her too, and her friend Lauren.

And have no intentions to, move on and leave me alone.  There's so many other girls out here.  I have my OWN preferences, and if i hear something I don't like, I WONT see you.  Not everyone is worth such a big deal.  I don't care if I'm not.  I know I've made a few people mad in the past, and frankly, some deserved it, and some just didn't give me the benefit of the doubt, so I gave up.  For every spoiler in this city, there's a million angels!!!  I've met more than enough of my share of angels, to even give a darn about what you or magicman think of me!!  

GET OVER IT AND MOVE ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Yep look at the weather report...that's accurate. Yesterday we were supposed to get 4-6 inches...sunshine all day...finally got about 2 overnight...I did read what you wrote...you said you would never cancel due to weather yet you take time and plan ahead...must be sitting at home alot this winter if you listen to the weather report and plan ahead. haha

I seem to remember you found treasure in a hot tub full of bubbles...don't recall the snorkel though.

Just tuned into TER local news and this is the current hot topic. Boy I am very happy to be here where the sun shines and the air is clean, also no sorry asses like mr. above. I am very sorry to see this
sh#t Sam and Puck I still carry matches.    mbs

You and her set 1 date and YOU cancelled it.

All the rest is the same shit anyone goes through trying to set up last minute(same day) dates.  Most guys have a list of ladies, you zeroed in on 1 lady and expected her to be available whenever you called in that 4 day window.

If you are pissed about her calander not being accurate, holy shit, I would say 80% of the ladies on TER either don't use their calander or it is not accurate.

That you could only find one gal to harass... maybe time to expand on that must see list... but it's going to be pretty short in MN... ROTFLMAF

"That's what happens when you try to throw your hard earned money, at someone who doesn't know what hard earning is."

I resent that.  I have an incredible work ethic.  I am the James Brown of TER Providers.

Even before I was a provider, I used to work 50 or 60 hours per week, when I was not in school.

you sir, have serious issues!!!!!!

The only thing you informed us of is that after you canceled one appointment, she wasn't available when you did want to see her and that evidently was a big enough offense to you that you lost it.  What, do you think the lady was just sitting around waiting for you to call?

Maybe you got a bunch of PMs from people who agree with you and maybe you didn't.  In any event, you're not the only one who gets PMs from people who agree with their position but don't post about it.  And none of that changes the fact that you still haven't offered any reasonable justification for your attack on her and there is no reason to think that there is one. Instead you just went off on some rant and called people names.  What, you think that if you call us white knights, etc. that will somehow be distracted and forget how unreasonable your position is?  How silly is that!

Information is useful.  Character assassination is not.  Calling everyone who sticks up for the ladies white knights is foolish.