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KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 2315 reads
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1 / 41

I set up an tentative appointment (we weren't sure what time it would be) with a very nice gentleman yesterday and had an emergency, my daughter got hit by a softball :( Poor baby!  I ran out of my apartment without  my phone, or my laptop so I couldn't email,  But I must admit, my thoughts were on my daughter...not on my work.  

This morning I opened my email and saw 4 emails from him, of course he thought I stood him up, so the final email was pretty bad.

 I usually ask for a deposit when I drive outside the metro (just in case I get stood up/Ironic) but I waived it,  So he thinks I was trying to scam him.  

I wasn't... Sometimes things happen that are beyond our control and we just have to roll with it.  (Providers are people to, with families and day jobs)

I emailed him this morning and explained what happened and hopefully he accepts my apology.

So I am asking for advice dear hobbyists and providers...

What else, if anything, can I do to set this right?

Kimberlie2 See my TER Reviews 1157 reads
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2 / 41

You did the right thing taking care of your daughter first. We are all human and things happen.  
 I hope everything turns out good with the client but most importantly I hope your daughter is OK and doing well

Makwa 18 Reviews 859 reads
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3 / 41

Just be up front and appoligize.  We have all had emergencies happen from time to time.  Maybe an offer for a special on a future appointment.  But he should understand you have a personal life.

2136184 41 Reviews 879 reads
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4 / 41
LChayse See my TER Reviews 959 reads
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5 / 41

You are correct that we are people first with families, civi jobs, etc. Those are the things (frankly) that should take priority. ALWAYS! That goes for the gentlemen as well. It's completely understandable to me that your priority was to tend to your daughter without thought about grabbing the phone or laptop. What loving parent does that?! "Oh wait! Hold your ear so it doesn't fall off so I can grab my phone & laptop!" Duh...  

If he's the gentleman you believe him to be he should understand & accept your apology. I can't imagine a true gentleman that wouldn't. If he doesn't don't take it to heart. Move on & recognize you don't need someone like that in your life anyway.

I personally have had things come up that resulted in being late & a couple times I NCNS'd a gentleman. being rushed to the hospital unexpectedly tends to put plans on hold without notice. Lol!

I typically do what you have already done followed by some options for the gent to chose from. Extra time, a discounted rate, treat him to dinner, or an event, things of that nature. Most times it worked out fine, & a couple times it didn't. Of course I felt horrible those times it didn't work out but as long as I'm putting forth the effort to make things right, I walk away with a clean conscience as should you lovely lady.

Take care of you & yours. Hoping for your daughter's quick recovery.

XXOO!!
Leigh-Ann

KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 820 reads
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6 / 41

She's fine.  Bruised and swelling.  Thanks for the support!

belindabell See my TER Reviews 964 reads
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8 / 41

Offer him an extra half hour or $50 off the same length appt.   He will appreciate the offer

KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 946 reads
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9 / 41

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vantheman666 10 Reviews 899 reads
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10 / 41

My main concern is that if his final email was "pretty bad,"  maybe he would be a pretty bad client.  I would personally remain polite if things fell through with no explanation, and just let the provider know that she could contact me in the future if she wants to explain and still wants to see me.  I was once on the receiving end of a NCNS, and I haven't even bothered outing the provider who did it to me on the board.  I just figure, her loss, and there are plenty of other ladies around here who are eligible for my love and affection.

smilin6969 40 Reviews 846 reads
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11 / 41

I agree with the lovely Ms. Chayse. Offer up the story and apology, the discount or extra time is a nice touch. I know if it was me, I would still pay the originally agreed upon rate because Life Happens, but I would always know you are a stand up person.
It is a little sad though that he had written 4 emails in the course of the day and had even went to the dark side. One or two emails, ok, another one the next day, ok, but never get negative. It's worse that he was the one being visited. If he drove a long ways to see you, ok, maybe a little emotion should be expected. But come on, after realizing something must have happened, just pull up some porn and get rid of the evil juices.... LO

TrinityLake See my TER Reviews 826 reads
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12 / 41

You are TOTALLY doing what you should do by emailing him AND all of TER letting us know that you are very professional.  As a mom, I would lose all respect if you had not handled your daughter as you did.  Your Karma is clear, Baby.

ooxx,
TL

KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 910 reads
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13 / 41

good point!  

Posted By: vantheman666
My main concern is that if his final email was "pretty bad,"  maybe he would be a pretty bad client.  I would personally remain polite if things fell through with no explanation, and just let the provider know that she could contact me in the future if she wants to explain and still wants to see me.  I was once on the receiving end of a NCNS, and I haven't even bothered outing the provider who did it to me on the board.  I just figure, her loss, and there are plenty of other ladies around here who are eligible for my love and affection.

KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 836 reads
posted
14 / 41

for a while now and I've seen Providers burned at the stake for less.

I respect this work, there is a need for it. It is a beautiful thing to provide comfort, relive stress, or fulfill a fantasy.    

I thank you all for being a part of my life!  

PS...kid is fine.  fall softball is almost over so she's not gonna let a little thing like this stop her!  I'm so excided to see what she does with her life

Whynotyou 992 reads
posted
15 / 41

Is that you didn't have a cell phone with you, especially in this day and age. If you say you didn't have your "provider" cell phone and only had your "real life" cell phone, that would be understandable.

We've all had these things happen but I've never left home without my wallet and keys (unless walking or taking public transportation)...and a cell phone.

Anyway, glad she's OK.

cheyen 74 Reviews 775 reads
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16 / 41

Kyra, I read the responses from quality people like Trinity and Belinda (and everyone else).

It is unfortunate that you did not call to cancel but no man worthy of the title would ever blame you.  Mom's go into super mom mode when their child is hurt.  I hope the guy will be understanding and if he is not that is his issue.  

What to do is simple; explain and apologize.  You did that already.  Add in a gift like the ladies suggested.  A discount or a extra half hour is more than enough.  Having experienced a similar cancel NCNS, it was followed by and apology and an offer to reschedule and I am quoting here "I will make it up to you big time".  She said she could add a discount but the extra attention was more than enough.  You don't owe anything however you could make an unfortunate incident into a devoted regular client.  

The guy has a obligation to hold fire until you had a chance to explain and apologize.  He needs to apologize to you for over reacting.

arunee 34 Reviews 767 reads
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17 / 41

I think you just set it right already...if he reads this thread.  Only a moron would not understand so if he doesn't it is no big loss.  Hope your daughter is okay as she is all that matters in the entire situation.

KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 734 reads
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18 / 41

candy crush on was terrible.  The other thing was...we hadn't even confirmed the appointment.

bigdell 81 Reviews 780 reads
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19 / 41

First of all family always comes first and I can understand rushing out.  Personally I would rather have some extra time than a discount on the session.  If you are going to offer anything.  That would go a long way to showing sincerity.  Them the guy just has to decide if he is getting the truth or the run around.  I have told this story before.  I was NCNS'd by a lady once.  Several days later when I got a response to my emails, she said her mother had a heart attack and she never left the hospital from 6am until late night.  Well I had saw her about the time of our appointment on the street obviously on the way to a lake outing.  So a lady can say what ever she wants (I like to think I am getting the truth) and a guy sometimes has just gotta go by his gut feeling.  So to me an extended visit would help me believe.  And yes I know most ladies have many more NCNS's than I've ever had.  Lots all have some respect and be people of or words.

vorlon 119 Reviews 878 reads
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21 / 41

Hopefully he will accept your apology and be understanding of what happened.  This sort of thing is why I think it is wise to wait a while before a hobbyist or escort goes off and blasts someone for a NCNS either publicly or even privately.  Give the other person time to get back to you and see what they say.

ron_mexico22 6 Reviews 721 reads
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22 / 41

The general feedback is that family comes first.  No brainer in my opinion, so no need to worry there.  Any guy should be able to figure that out.  I had a similar incident where a provider's family pet needed to see the vet, which pushed back our appt.  I wasn't exactly thrilled, but I understood the situation and was fine with the time delay (we had an awesome session regardless).  

If I am reading this correctly, no deposit was ever made so all that was lost was time?  Not sure why this guy is getting so hyper.  If there was a pattern of such incidents, okay, but that should be well documented through reviews, etc.  This was an outlier incident, and should be treated as such.  You e-mailed back, apologized, but ultimately it was outside of your control.  I think that you have done more than enough, and actually trying to do more to set things right is going above and beyond the call.  Just my two cents.

KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 711 reads
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23 / 41
beddy1 38 Reviews 791 reads
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24 / 41

to inform others ("publicly or even privately") of a NCNS and yet be innocent of "going off and blasting" the person who NCNS-ed?  I say "Yes".  (But my Spidey sense tells me that I may be in the minority on this one.)  For the record, I am also one who waits to hear from all parties involved in a NCNS report before drawing conclusions about anyone's behavior or reliability.

KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 767 reads
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25 / 41

I specifically made it that way so no one would be implicated other than myself.

Also...it hurts financially when something like this happens.   Usually the provider handles all the costs, at least in my situation no one got ripped off or stuck with the bill.  I've made my apologies.    

This was a sincere question. ..and I thank those of you who have responded.  I don't think there is a right or wrong answer...it is unfortunate that it happened. But I'll be moving forward.  I'm to horny to worry about it.

bfw 9 Reviews 734 reads
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26 / 41

as bellinda said; explain, apologize, and offer to "make it right".  That's what the thoughtful do.

Posted By: belindabell
Offer him an extra half hour or $50 off the same length appt.   He will appreciate the offer.  
 

smilin6969 40 Reviews 674 reads
posted
27 / 41

I particularly like the to horny part... LOL BTW, did he except the apology? :

KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 847 reads
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28 / 41

...I'm know he has other issues going on in his life as well.  

(I prefer being horny rather than annoyed.   Actually...I prefer to be satisfied and taking a post-coital nap, but I digress...)

vorlon 119 Reviews 786 reads
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29 / 41

I think it is perfectly fine to privately or publicly express your displeasure at being NCNS'd if you don't get some sort of reasonable explanation or apology.  Whether that still constitutes "blasting" is up to you.

beddy1 38 Reviews 854 reads
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30 / 41

"blasting"/bad form.  On the contrary.  But that doesn't answer the question.  The question is whether informing others of a NCNS, say by posting about it on TER, before receiving ANY explanation (reasonable or not) from the NCNS-er, makes one guilty of "blasting"/bad form.  As I said earlier, my view is that it does not.  I suspect you disagree.  That's fine -- I'm OK with my view being a minority one and have no need or desire to defend it against those who see things differently.  Mostly I wanted to get a sense of how minority my view might be.

DJ1985 21 Reviews 751 reads
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31 / 41

while sitting in your car 10 minutes after your appointment time when you're mad about being NCNS it could be considered to be in bad form. In my opinion you should wait a few days for her to contact you. If she doesn't respond or try to make it right you should feel free to call her out on the public board. Doing that will often get a response from her even if she won't answer your emails but it can also shine the light on you if she baled out because of something you did or said.

TheUndertaker 898 reads
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32 / 41

Thanks to all for your empathetic responses and attempt to console this provider.

To the provider, it is slick of you to try to take preemptive action by posting this in an attempt to head off the fact that you thought I would out you.  

I wasn't going to so you wasted your time and brought up a situation that would have stayed private but for the fact that you felt guilty about it.

If this was truly what happened then it is certainly understandable and forgivable.

The problem is you are all taking her excuse as fact and I doubt that is the case based upon some omitted facts.

Fact of the matter is the story is fabricated since when I emailed to confirm our appointment for that evening this is the response I received:

"Howdy...So...how does tomorrow look for you?"

Certainly doesn't sound like an emergency to me but a casual attempt to reschedule due to some other non emergent opportunity arising for the provider

KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 871 reads
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33 / 41

because I left my apartment without my phone or laptop.  

I'm not going to argue with you...if you think I was scamming there is nothing I can do about it.  

I posted a question to see if there was advice on what I should do to apologize for the situation.  I used generic information and in no way implicated you.  
if you  would have responded to my email I  at 7:26 am the next morning when I was FINALLY able to send one, it probably would have ended differently.  

You tried to negotiate my donation.  And it worked.  I agreed to come down without a deposit for 2 hours at a rate WELL below what my donation usually is, You used  your personal situation as a ploy for sympathy.   WE NEVER HAD AN APPOINTMET CONFIRMED.   YOU LOST NOTHING. Your other screen name (which I won't add) shows the number of reviews you have done. I know you  are an experienced hobbyist.  I had NO reason to NOT come.  

"To the provider, it is slick of you to try to take preemptive action by posting this in an attempt to head off the fact that you thought I would out you."  You have accused me of trying to scam you and threatened to "out" me.  I'm "slick" and taking "preemptive action".  Come on man...my kid was hurt.  I have a good reputation and have always been honest with hobbyists.  

I'm not a manipulative con artist who is trying to get over on everyone

Sometimes things just HAPPEN!

   

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knotsaway 38 Reviews 874 reads
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35 / 41

... in this case, I think you should have used your handle. You are challenging the facts presented here by a provider who used her handle, so we know who she is.  Since you publically challenged her story, i.e. called her a liar, I think it's only right that you identify yourself with your handle.  

But since Kyra never identified you, it would have been better for you to settle this with her offline as she's asked.

vorlon 119 Reviews 740 reads
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36 / 41

I suspect that most of the time we would disagree.  But there might be situations where it would be appropriate.

pugdog 5 Reviews 852 reads
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37 / 41

"Fact of the matter is the story is fabricated since when I emailed to confirm our appointment for that evening this is the response I received:  
 
"Howdy...So...how does tomorrow look for you?" "

That does not look like a confirmation to me.

TheUndertaker 1026 reads
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38 / 41

To all the folks who chimed in before knowing all the facts and realizing there are three sides to every story...SHAME ON YOU !

The reason I do not wish to divulge all the facts at this time is because quite frankly it's none of your business and I'm not looking for your stamp of approval.  

 
Kyra,  

Flying thousands of miles to go to the Mayo Clinic is hardly a "ploy".

You and I both know what happened and that's sufficient for my peace of mind.

I wish you and your daughter well.

Ciao

 
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KyraRossi See my TER Reviews 850 reads
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OldTimerB 45 Reviews 706 reads
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40 / 41

He normally is...nice, that is.

Posted By: KyraRossi
Couldn't resist.  
   
 

IronRooster 13 Reviews 756 reads
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41 / 41

Without details, it's all smoke and thunder so I'll focus on options if you get NCNS'd (from a monger's point of view):

* Check that you had confirmation. If it was vague and no set time, you did not.
* Avoid sending any nasty emails/texts/voicemails - or go ahead and do it so the provider knows to avoid you.
* Wait at least 24 hours though 2-3 days is better and send a single follow-up message along the lines of, "Hey. Hope all is okay. Thought we had a set appt but you didn't respond. Would appreciate knowing you're okay and if there was a misunderstanding. Thanks"

If no response or lame response, you can react accordingly (post here, create a voodoo effigy, etc.) but in general, it's best to just cross that provider off your list and move on.  

If it becomes a pattern, it will come out. "Oh, her grandma died last week too." or "She told me she sprained her ankle."

Overall, providers get stood up far more than we do. It's never right but my point is there's no upside to posting here quickly. Wait until you get a response. No response after 2-3 days IS a response.

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