I know that most in society would say that providers help men cheat on their wives, but does anyone feel that a provider has helped their marriage? Maybe by just being accepting? Listening? Not being judgmental? I'm sure that some guys have gotten caught and it has hurt their marriage and destroyed their family, but do others think we have actually helped?

Thanks for bringing it up..I think its made mine tolerable to tell you the truth..

But I can say that about six months after I entered the hobby my SO commented that I seemed far more relaxed and happy of late.

We have this rule, "if you ask then it is not cheating."  I perfer my wife, for she is beautiful and wonderful beyond limits, but whats wrong with having fun.  This level of communication did not happen over night but we have both been able to grow individually and together more so than any point in our lives together.

the irritating idotic troll is a female provider with way too much time on "it's" hands, and I quote "I'm sure that some guys have gotten caught and it has hurt their marriage and destroyed their family, but do others think we have actually helped?" Morris just go away and try doing something productive with ur pathetic existence. Your constant inane posts are irritating a lot of people.

clicks on the ignore user button?   Try it....... and let us know.....

Morris1969's do get serious replies, so at least some of us do not think her posts are irritating and actually add a little life to the board.  On the other hand, my2centsworth, your constant inane attacks are irritating a lot of people so why don't you go away and try doing something productive with ur pathetic existence.

...to know that the ladies here could possibly make an impact beyond the obvious, in the heat of the moment ways. xo

Looking back, I see my decision to start hobbying, or even to think about it, was the end of my marriage. But I made a terrible mistake getting married in the first place. So the hobby wasn't the cause but more of an effect of a decision to check out of the relationship.

So I definitely have fewer regrets about hobbying than I do about getting married. Maybe a little off-topic. Thanks for letting me vent.

Looks like your in the minority, Mister two cents. Many hobbyists have mixed emotions about seeing me and other providers. Maybe you're just a little too sensitive, and we know why... Most women don't go for narrow minded hateful men.

But it probably allows some to remain in their shitty marraige by making their existance more tolerable in spite of the huge need their spouse can't or more likely won't fulfill.

The idea of such a thing seems sort of like taking a mutli-vitamin to cure cancer, except I doubt that many, if any, set out with the intention to cure any ills of their relationship by fucking hookers. You can't strengthen a relationship solo, let alone from outside of the relationship.

There is no way I can concieve of that cheating (and the lying and sneaking that go along with it) could possibly 'strengthen' a marraige. A fool may try to convince himself otherwise as humans always find ways to justify their actions, but an honest inspection of ones own motives would likely reveal that it's a purely selfish act. The benefit of whoremongering is not for the marraige, but for the individual.

I believe the illusion you create for him, may very well help him maintain the illusion he creates for his wife (or maybe himself)that he doesn't wish for something more, or someone better. But that's it. So to that end, a hooker may be a divorce attorney's primary competition.  

BTW any fucktard who suggests that "providers help men cheat on their wives" is huffing paint. The moment he has the mind to cheat, it's only a matter of time. Regardless of who facilitates the act, he cheated the moment he sought to look elsewhere. Even if he failed to succeed, she's already lost a part of him that she's never going to get back.  

Not too hard to figure, 2Cents. She was born in 1969 and has done Bible study. Turns out, she doesn't, at least didn't like trolls either. Seems now she thinks it's more fun.

Your right it takes two to tango, but does it matter where the lessons came from. To say you can't fix a relationship solo is wrong. I have remind people often that when they are seeking therapy it is not helpful to complain about others because we cannot fix them, the only thing we can fix is ourselves.

There is also a difference between sex and love. It may be a difficult line to draw but it can be drawn or this entire hobby would not exist. When there is a need they will be something to fill it.  I can say that this hobby can be used constructively in a marraige, but it cannot start by with justification of a lie within an individual.

You are right however no provider helps anyone cheat, but you cannot play soccer without a ball.

If I am Morris1969. The answer is NO! I do not use aliases. Never have and never will. I'm offended that people would even think I'd use one to bring up silly conversations on this board. I hope I have better things to do!
Also, if I were Morris, I wouldn't be able to use my actual handle on this same thread.
If I post, you will all know who's posting. If you havent noticed, I'm REAL.    ???

The writing styles of "Morris" and Ms. Adsumsparkle do not resemble each other to begin with.  If the troll wants to make it appear as such, guessing HH's birth year and such is certainly a clever way to try to create some drama...

and thanks for the 2 hour sessions....

thx for the thoughtful comments  am glad that not ever one is so narrow minded

I thought that the OP posted a valid post for a fuckboard.

I think that 2cents post was random and rude... and definitely uncalled for on a harmless opinion thread.

You all saw what I do with my day now why don't you go do something like that with yours and let your troubles melt away...

STOP FEEDING THE KITTIES!

Lol

Morris, Morris, my adorable, sweet kitty. I'll feed you any day of the week. I personally love your posts & hope to see more of them. Oh! BTW! I'd love the opportunity to pet you some day.

Hugs
Leann

Well then, my point stands. If one can only fix themselves, and I agree completely with that statement, who fixes the other person? They must also fix thsmelves. So, you can not fix a relationship solo...unless it is the metaphorical relationship with ones own self. Otherwise I define a relationship as involving at least two people, and how might fucking a hooker get the other person to correct their faults, especially if those faults are the same ones driving the mans desire to fuck another woman?

Maybe in the case of the man above who claims his wife allows and accepts it, it has some benefit. For me, fucking other people outside of the primary relationship is a prereqisite for having a relationship to begin with, and if this is one of the methods I use to acheive that end, then the same holds true. But that's the exception, not the rule.

It is common knowledge othat most married Johns are not doing it with the wife's concent, so explain how stepping out on the Mrs. "helps strengthen a marraige" as the original question was stated.

Of course there is a difference between sex and love, and I don't think it's a hard line to draw at all. If you mean to say that fucking other women doesn't play into how the man feels about his wife, I agree, you can want to fuck for the sake of fucking with it having nothing to do with your feelings towards anyone else, but that still doesn't equate to an act beneficial to the marraige. If he gets his needs met elsewhere, good for him, but what about her? You know what's likely to happen if she finds out and it ain't pretty.


BTW you can play soccer without a ball - to find out how, visit the slums of Kingston Jamaica.  



 

Not sure what the fuck that has to do with my post, but uh yeah uh um kaaaaayyyy I think it was pretty obviuous you and Morris are not one in the same, even before this.

It did help me realize that it was over though.  I don't think there is a general answer; it depends on the people involved.