I say this in reference to the election.  Holy Nightmare, Batman, the Joker is still at large!

I love how some people just don't get it.

Don't get what?   Don't get the fact that we have a President that created the most dangerous and unsafe climate for this country in the last half century?  that we have fewer allies, more enemies, and that those enemies are better armed than at any time in history? and that administration policies are increasing those numbers at historically high rates?  that even "American Conservative" Magazine endorsed Kerry - believing he could be beaten in four years - because Bush (actually the neocons who have defined his policies) have been an unmitigated disaster and have created a national debt that will haunt our children's children? ... and that Bush is surfing on a deep current in the Christian right that is not only unafraid of our middle-eastern foreign policy endorsements (Isreal), but actually sees a conflagration there as helping to unfold biblical proficies of Armegeddon? .... that highly respected people like former Republicon Governor Elmer Anderson came out strongly in favor of Kerry primarily because of Cheney's influence on administion policies???? Is this what they don't get?  If that's what you mean, I wholeheartedly agree.

Dito

I get it...he is still an idiot!

Don't even talk to me about it. I wanted Kerry and I was very angry yesterday. I have since then come to peace with myself about it. I don't care for Bush but I believe he will do a decent job. We can predict his actions and there won't be any surprises. I think?

The Fundamentalist Christian Taliban came out in force in Ohio because of the gay marriage ban being on the ballot.  Remember Ohio is a very puritanical state, thats where they prosecuted Larry Flynt back in the 70s.

That's why the Rethugs were trying so hard to put the gay marriage ban on the Minnesota ballot, so all the crazies who don't usually vote, would come out.  Luckily for us, the Senate DFL wouldn't let it happen.  We did well in MN at least, almost took back the State House. The Rethugs are down to a two vote margin now, before they had 30.

We just have to regroup and keep fighting. 51 percent is not a mandate.  They didn't sit back and let Clinton govern after he won re-election with a real mandate, and we aren't going to roll over for a retarded chimp and the real president who tells him what to do, dick cheney.

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Yes, we can predict his actions. . . .lunacy!

Big majorities in both houses.  Watch and weep!

Idiot, What does that make the likes of Ann Richards, Al Gore, and John F. Kerry then????  Don't forget their campaign team of CBS, CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, The hollywood elite who all say "I can't believe that the people are so stupid"...Check the mirror.  Like I said They don't get it and from the sounds of it the last couple of days probably never will.

They let Clinton govern after he got 43% of the vote in an election handed to him by Ross Perot and the above forementioned.  After 2 years the people had enough and pulled in the reigns and changed the house and senate for the first time in over 40 years.  Then Clinton triangulated the accomplishments of the congress as his own(I don't have a problem with that, it just showed that Clinton liked being president more than having any true, solid beliefs or core values of things he wanted to accomplish...what he wanted to accomplish was to be president and leave a good legacy....well he was president but he is still trying to rewrite his legacy)

It almost worked for Kerry.

America voted and elected the right man. Get over it.

A little dense are we, aleister? or either some form of experimental trained rat?  Wake up! You're in hell and don't even know it!

Both sides in this election used the same tactics. I read that some group or other put up billboards in Florida that said if GW was re-elected that Florida would be hit by more hurricanes because of global warming. A person could argue that this administration hasn't been the friendliest to the environment but to try to argue that GW or his policies were the cause of global warming is absurd. If that isn't a scare tactic I don't know what is.

AT LEAST OVER ON THAT BOARD YOU CAN LEAVE THE BULLSHIT RABBLE--ON BOTH SIDES--AND GO BACK TO SURFING AND LURKING WITHOUT SEEING THIS BULLSHIT PARTISAN MANTRA.  PLUS, A COUPLE OF YOU COULD USE SOME ORIGINAL THINKING, QUIT REPEATING E-FACTS AND MEDIA SOUND BITES.....GAWWWWD

discussion board?  But hey, if there are people out there that want to fill this board with the same endless bitching & whining as on the politics board so be it.  Maybe we should start some threads on abortion or gun control??!!

Ahh yes, I miss the Clinton days! Come Back Bill! Bill, come back!

1st he should out manouvered Carl Rove ! and come out in favor of the gay marrage ban ! 11 states voted on that issue and it won in all 11 with around 75% of the vote . You cant win a national election without knowing that would happen. Just think about it it has been obvious people dont really like W , Our country has never even come close to unseating a Pres, during a war (perhaps the real reason there were 0 wmd's found) and it really did almost happen ! Dem's are to far to the left to win in rural areas and the south. As far as "values" well both sides are wrong and right personal accountable is important in our soc, but if people are going to clam "christian values" they should not forget what Christ said in his most compleat and powerful message the sermon on the mount look it up !

I thought of the glory hole while entering my booth on Tuesday.

Im glad it's over.  It was IMPOSSIBLE to avoid LE and the like who were lurking hallways at many hotels during the push to get our vote.  Funny thing, they had NO interest in what us "players" do as long as we don't get too close to the fat cats

A bit unnerving when you walk down the hall with 2 officers and a police dog on your tail and at the end of the hall...security officers with earphones.

A little dense? Hmmmm sounds a little self-righteous to me but then, that is the way of the Democrat.

So get over it and get on with being a Democrat. Some day when you grow up you will come over from the dark side into the light and wish you had done so long ago.

Sounds creepy.  Where were you?

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Bush and the Republicans won.  Kerry and the Democrats lost.  Why?  Short version in my opinion is people know what Bush and his people stand for while they just aren't sure with the Democrats.  Most Bush supporters voted FOR Bush but there were many Kerry voters who were simply voting AGAINST Bush, not out of any enthusiasm for Kerry.  If the Democrats can figure out what they really stand for, they can win.  In any event, we will do it again in four years so relax.

Here is a quote from G W Schrub (little bush) on 10/30 @
the Target Center, "THE MOST SOLEMN DUTY OF AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT IS TO PROTECT IT'S PEOPLE."  

George is a failure because he did not do his solemn presidential duty on 9/11/02.

BUSH LIED;THOUSANDS DIED

Also, 22% of voters said they voted for GWB because they
perceive his as a moral man. These Americans have a myopic view of morality. It is immoral, in my view, to lie about the justification to invade Iraq and kill an estimated 100,000 Iraqis. Mostly civilians..innocent women and children.

BTW Karl(never trust a person who spells Carl with a K) Rove had GWB take on his phoney-christian BS 1998 just before Bush
was announced as a possible presidential canidate.

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Sounds like the satire went right over your head...

Too bad this photo doesn't go down far enough to show the puddle on the floor under the chair...

Any particular reason?

Preach the word, Troop because what your saying is only the truth!

Troop, like many people, especially after "the crevice" (another word for Bush)showed his stuff at 9/11 (in real life and the movie documentary), the unemployment situation, Iraq, and his misunderstaning and misappropriation of priorities, I was looking for a change.
Instead, for the next four years, we will have more of the same, with the continuation of videos of innocent Americans being killed for being over there, and the unemployed desperately trying to feed their families.  How the hell does the "shrub" know how the Latinos feel, and their lifestyle. Not to mention, any minority.  The man has to be fed words in his debates like Cyrano de Bergerac!  
At least Minnesota did what they had to do, and did it!
For not for the rest of the country, we wouldn't have that just screwed up the ass feeling.

I voted for Kerry and can muster a broad, stinging critique of Bush. But as JimElykz has blamed Bush for the "unemployment situation," I wonder if he can elaborate on just what that situation is, and how Bush directly affected it.

The latest Department of Labor monthly jobs report was very encouraging (finally). The current unemployment rate of 5.5 percent is hardly an historical anomoly. As for the vaunted "outsourcing" critique as it relates to Bush (or any politician), consult factcheck.org for an analysis.

Plus, I think many economists would agree his tax cuts - even though they are tilted toward the wealthy, and toward wealthy, passive investors - contributed to a stimulative economic environment also fed by a prolonged period of historically low interest rates.I cannot address the critique as to "how Latinos feel," but for better or worse Bush has proposed (not yet passed) a plan under which more could work in this country.

It's true that job growth has been stubbornly low despite recent quarters of healty corporate profits. Discouraging, even greedy, maybe, but Bush's fault? I'll need some convincing.

Would Kerry's tax incentives for job creation have been effective? It's an open question.

Bush's economic legacy may prove to be his uncaring attitude toward the nation's fiscal health, i.e., the deficit. He's the first president in four decades who seems to not give a shit about the revenue side of the equation (aside from a myopic belief that tax cuts cure all ills, now and forever). Even Reagan and Bush 1 raised taxes to prop up the federal treasury.

As unemployment goes, it sure could get worse in the long term if the national debt chokes off healthy private-sector investment.

No worse than the republicans treated Clinton, now the shoe's on the other foot.