Minnesota

Incall Only
MILF_MARIE 1525 reads
posted
1 / 22

This is a subject that we’ve seen before.  First let me state that I will not do an outcall to a residence with someone whom I’m not totally comfortable.  The foregoing in almost all cases means that we’ve seen each other before to have developed a trust and comfort level.  Now on to the real issue and purpose of this thread.  What do you hobbyists prefer?  Notwithstanding the fact that many hobbyists cannot host an outcall (for obvious reasons), and therefore incalls are a must if you’re going to hobby; therefore incalls are it!  Outcalls to your hotel are fine, but screening comes into play.  I would have to have your real name (not fair, I know), and check to see if such a named person is registered.  That has happened to me before, and Mr. Jake Flake was not registered.  End of game at that point, and everyone’s time is wasted.  Not to mention frustration.  But I just did.  LOL

I’m searching for your preference of incalls versus outcalls.  Are you more comfortable with calling upon a provider at a private residence, or a hotel?  Are you comfortable with the location being withheld until you really need to know?  Methinks that all parties should be in phone contact on the day that the meeting is to occur, but I’ve experienced that some of you out there want to know a day (sometimes days) in advance.  What do you think about being informed of the general area, and a few minutes before the meeting, you get the exact location?  I.e. the two call system.  Most hobbyists understand, but there are a few who seem miffed that they have to call a second time.  For the understanding of those who get miffed, one of the purposes of the two call system is for comfort and security of us both.  Meaning that you’ll be directed to a fixed and known location that is for example, within a 2 minute drive away.  If it takes you 15 minutes (weather and traffic conditions factored in) to make the second call, then many providers are outta there.

I’m asking for my own knowledge and the general knowledge of us all.  I’ll mention again that many providers don’t sit at their incall locations and by their computer or phone waiting.  The latter-mentioned is for those who call 10 minutes before making a request that is to be in 10 minutes.  Sometimes you may get lucky with that.  We do understand that sometimes windows of opportunity are narrow; still an incall location may take us awhile to arrive and be adequately prepared to “receive” you.

Of course provider and hobbyist input is desired.  Please feel free to append other thoughts and feelings that I may have inadvertently omitted on the subject.

Seksi 1 Reviews 1443 reads
posted
2 / 22

. . . is which location, residence or hotel, is more likely to result in legal complications. I'd want to know the odds of one or the other being "safer."

Can't really see a situation in which I'd prefer outcall, unless I was traveling, or we met at my office after hours. Hmmm. . . . ;-)

Having said that, I'd prefer a private residence first, hotel second. But are both equally as "safe," or, conversely, are both equally as "dangerous"?

MILF_MARIE 1122 reads
posted
3 / 22

You pose excellent concerns.  That's what this thread is all about.  I'm hoping to some other resulting input.

Office outcalls huh?  Hmmmmmm I've done that before.  It was fun.  Oh the excitement for both.

From a provider's perspective, incalls at a hotel are safer.

A rousing discussion regarding the safety and legal ramifications of incall vs outcall for the participating is fodder for another thread.  We may even get some of it on this one.

TCButtman 743 reads
posted
4 / 22

I prefer to know the general area before just from a logistics standpoint and for safety reasons as well. There are places that I won't go period (North Minneapolis and St. Paul).

inquiring.mind 1130 reads
posted
5 / 22

Going to an incall at a private residence is most comfortable for me. Don't have to worry about cleaning staff, house security, or fumbling around looking for the elevators. It puts additional risk on the provider, though, so incall to a hotel seems like a good balance. For the lady who is comfortable with it, a private residence is really nice.

Standard two call, to my mind, is you give me the name of the hotel on first call before I leave so I can confirm the address and program my GPS in comfort and safety. Second call is from the hotel parking lot for the room number and, hopefully, clear direction how to navigate the lobby so I don't have to wander around. This way you have an opportunity after the first call, if you choose, to keep an eye open for suspicious looking activity in the parking lot. Or, one lady tells you where to park and watches as you pull up.

I'm not a big fan of being directed to a completely different, though nearby, location. We did that once, I misunderstood your directions, and had to call you from a half mile further away to clear things up. Means our session was a bit short as you had a book to read that day (inside joke). This system adds complication, increases my anxiety level and I don't see that it really keeps you any safer, since you gotta name  the hotel eventually.

There. Two cents worth of response free for nothing.

sa55407 12 Reviews 1432 reads
posted
6 / 22

Just a comment, I dint think either option is more or less safe from a legal point of view. LE can show up wherever. So this is more about preference and physical safety.

I prefer private residences over hotel hands down. I can understand that a provider may prefer the hotel. For me, always incall.

Peace out.

ranger979 27 Reviews 746 reads
posted
7 / 22

I definitely prefer incall to private residence; however, I certainly understand a provider reluctancy to do so.

I have no problem with a two call system but I absolutely hate it when they turn into a 3 to 10 call deal.  I also don't like being asked about the vehicle I'm driving, unless she is planning on meeting at my car for some reason.

flikker1 22 Reviews 892 reads
posted
8 / 22

I have no preference on incall or outcall except to say when we meet at my place, hotel on the road or at home, it's great for ME not to have to get up, get dressed and drive somewhere. But I'll do either to enjoy the moment.

I have, on two occasions, bailed on an incall in a strange city because the neighborhood (and the hotel) looked like they were located in an Iraqi war zone.

When I was in MN this summer, all of my meetings were in the North Minneapolis and St. Paul areas and I never had any problems. Maybe I was too dumb to know any better! But I would repeat...

Riley007 45 Reviews 1184 reads
posted
9 / 22

I can only do incalls, I prefer apartment buildings or homes. My second favorite is upsacel hotels in downtown Minneapolis. There are lots of out of town people wandering around so you don't stand out. A guy waiting at the bar for a call isn't unusual.

I have to know where I am going so I can plan for travel time. A second call from the parking lot is OK. Additional steps are annoying and mean the provider needs to do better research beforehand (at least on people who have a track record)

I do skip providers located in bad areas and areas that have a bad track record for LE activity.

Curvy Masseuse 1330 reads
posted
10 / 22

For hotels (which I rarely use unless traveling), you'd pretty much know which one it is if you get a general location, assuming there isn't several on the same block.

For a PR, what if the provider gives you the address of a nearby residence to park by (within mere steps of the true location), then has you call for the rest of the details?

I understand both sides of wanting to know the exact information beforehand but on a safety side, as a provider, I don't want someone knowing my location until they're on the property or I can see them park, ect.

Does that make sense?

I'm also open for suggestions as well.

TCButtman 1441 reads
posted
11 / 22

You give good directions to get to the general area and the whole deal is just pain free.

bzb 16 Reviews 951 reads
posted
12 / 22

Needs to be incall for me too, since I don't really travel for work.

I am surprised how many answers here indicate preference to private residences.  I guess I've always preferred a hotel to private residence.

Maybe I'm overly paranoid, but I get nervous that there's nosey neighbors watching different guys going in and out of a private residence, by that I mean a single-family home.

When I was a little boy growing up, I remember my grandma actually had binoculars sitting by her kitchen sink and she gawked at neighbors' activities (sad I know).  And those neighbors weren't doing anything interesting!!  Maybe that's only a small-town thing, but still makes me a bit leery.

Nago8 4 Reviews 779 reads
posted
13 / 22

Theres a couple mitigating factors here.  If its the first time Im seeing someone, Id rather do a private residence.  Very easy for LE to set up a sting in a hotel.  However,  I wouldnt want to go to a private residence  if its being used by several providers since the traffic will raise suspicions in either a residential or commercial area.  If Im seeing a regular, much rather do a private residence in a safe neighborhood since theres much less hassle getting in and out and I get paranoid going into hotels.  Another thing, and this is for the guys,  if youre meeting a provider at her residence or hotel and you run into her in the lobby, hallway, driveway or whatever, keep your hands off her.  Providers often complain about guys hugging them or pinching their ass in full view of the neighbors. I mean wouldnt you think its suspicious if some 70 yr old dude is fondling your 19 yr olds neighbor.  Sounds totally uncool but it happens alot.

takingmytime 73 Reviews 846 reads
posted
14 / 22

I can only do incalls as I rarely have the need for a hotel and can not see myself getting one just for an hour or two, three and other reasons.

First, I always say I will call 60-90 minutes before our set time to confirm or I won't even leave the house.  I need to know prior to that what area I am heading to as it can take 30-60 minutes to get from one side of MPLS/St. Paul(traffic at particular times of day for sure)
to the other and very easily could make me miss an entire appointment or make me push it back if possible upon my confirmation.  After that a 2 call is fine with me and I fully under stand the reason for it.

For locations, I prefer large apprtment builds then hotels with free parking or a separate ramp.

Motels and private residences where anyone can watch you walk in and out of the front door I HATE unless you happen to live in the
country with no neighbors!  Everyone has that nosy neighbor that don't work and has nothing better to do than sit by the bay window and watch their neighbors comings and goings.

I read one of the comment with a company visit after hours, those are exciting, watch for cammeras, easy to pay attention to comings and goings after hours both inside buildings and in parking lots.

Lastly, location is a common sense thing sometimes.  For the life of me I can't understand why a lady would plan a incall kitty corner from a police substation.  Of course I kept on driving!  She knew it was there and was upset when I asked her to reschedule, which she did and we met a couple hours later.

purplewildflower See my TER Reviews 1147 reads
posted
15 / 22

Mine is at a dead end of a street that's split off of another dead end street LOL people always get lost

purplewildflower See my TER Reviews 1329 reads
posted
16 / 22

i don't like hotels bc there is just something that urks me about them idk if it's the fact they never wash the comforter or the way they use the same rag to wipe EVERYTHING

vorlon 119 Reviews 673 reads
posted
17 / 22

I typically prefer incall to outcall for several reasons
1)  At times I have had people staying with me for extended periods of time and therefore did not have the necessary privacy
2)  I have also lived outside the metro area; outcall was not practical unless I was willing to pay a travel fee
3)  Getting a room just for the session is effectively the same as paying a higher rate for the provider; usually I don't see it as being worth it.  I've done it and was not typically happy with the outcome.
4)  I am more cautious about who I would have over to where I live; I would need to have sufficient trust in the provider and the reality is not all of them are that trustworthy.

As far as incall goes, I like residences better.  In my experience they are usually just more comfortable environments and I always have a slight worry about if any given hotel/motel has someone keeping an eye out.  However, the residence needs to be discretely located; some place where the traffic coming and going is too obvious to others in the area is asking for trouble at some point.

hcaors 1217 reads
posted
18 / 22

I live alone in a downtown apartment so I have some good choices between walking to a downtown hotel incall or inviting over someone who will do an outcall to downtown. On one occasion I had a provider say she didn't do outcalls to, or have incalls in, downtown due to increased LE concerns, which I was unaware of but would like to learn a bit more about. (I'm still pretty new) While this was a little disappointing, I wouldn't ask someone to go somewhere they were uncomfortable for any reason, and I had plenty of other options. Who knows, maybe some people just don't like the hassle of finding a parking spot here. Can't say that I'd blame them.

docwu 511 reads
posted
19 / 22

yeah, and beware of the hotel TV remote.  I hear that the best thing to do is put it in a ziploc bag as soon as you arrive.  Probably the most gross thing in any hotel room.  
Wash the comforter?  Why that would take water and soap and dryer time...what's a few germies between friends?  Just take it off the bed as soon as you arrive and put it in the corner where it can't hurt anyone.
I am a microbiologist and thank goodness I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night.  Never ever take a black light into a hotel room.  The fluorescence might blind you.

MILF_MARIE 1335 reads
posted
20 / 22

Many varying opinions/preference supported by good reasons.  I love the input, and this is another thread that gives me cause to re-think my M.O. on several fronts.  I hope that the same is true for some of my cohorts.  As someone said and others alluded both types of locations has advantages and disadvantages.  I would love to start another thread that goes into details of how to security and safety are minimized.  It may enlighten both provider and hobbyist, and therefore ease some of the uneasiness expressed here.  Alas, that is probably not a good idea for doing so would tip off someone(s) who we'd not like tipped off.

Thanks everyone for your input here and in PMs.

Kope74 13 Reviews 1216 reads
posted
21 / 22

I mostly go for incall appointments due to accessibility and freedom during the work day and usually mostly all morning or afternoon time frame appointments.  

Now I am stuck at home and unable to drive due to a cast and ankle surgery so considering an outcall appointment in that time frame.  

ilvmbg 2433 reads
posted
22 / 22

Unless someone makes a HUGE mistake, I don't think the large hotels in downtown Minneapolis are going to have any stings or other LE issues.  There is so much traffic going in and out that anonymity is virtually assured.  As far as residences are concerned, neighbors are bound to notice lots of traffic sooner or later.  I've always thought providers doing so are sitting ducks unless they always move after short duration.

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