I concure. There is a wide variation of people involved... Both Providers and Hobbiests... But we are all human and all different so different results should be expected from differnt "matings".

I have had providers tell me how this is so natural for them and how (most of the time) they really enjoy themselves.... And others comment on how much work they do put in. And I believe both are sincerly true...... Personally I try to not be a lot of work to a Lady and try to make it at least a tollerable time and hopefully memorable for her. Sometimes I know I succeed and other times I know I do not but again it is largely due to circumstances such as moods, other things going on that day or just in life and of coarse compatability.

I do think about the Ladies sometimes and wonder about how they do juggle it all. And what their future holds. Some have really got it together and have goals for the future. Some own multiple properties and have funds put away and even have business plans. Others do not and seem to go from day to day.

I suspect that like anything in life, the Ladies only get out what they put in... At least over the long term.

Sooooo.... for quite some time now I have read ladies harping how "hard' they work & gents following suite in promotion of the rant that we work sooooo hard for our 10's. Blah, blah.......

I'm not getting it. Exactly what "work" are we talking about? As ladies in our civi lives, do we not typically shower, brush our teeth, put on pretty clothes & make up, fix our hair, do our nails, ect, ect.?

Sooooooooooo, will someone please tell me other than using our brain to count the donation for us doing exactly what we do for free in our civi lives when we are going in to the public, or courting a gent we find attractive, what "hard work" are we putting forward to make use any more spectacular that any other broad you can get some HAWT booty off of from the street or out of the grocery store? Inquiring minds in action! Lol!

to imagine me as good looking.

Putting up the website, putting up the ads, responding to countless emails and calls that may or may not result in an appointment, dealing with guys who have bad hygiene or who are abusive, maintaining boundaries in the professional relationship, keeping the "profession" separate and usually secret from the civvie life, dealing with the uncertainty of an inconsistent income, dodging LE, the tax man, the landlord and the neighbors.....lying to the kids, the parents, the friends about what you do or where you've been....it ain't a job where you go to go to work at 9, get off at 5 and kick back.  Been a hobbyist for almost 5 decades and I've never known a single provider who said it was easy.  Many providers get a charge out of the novelty and excitement their first year or two, but then the reality sets in...this is hard work.

Or me as young.

All this... and... getting into, being in and staying in the moment with each client; tuning into and responding to each individual client's needs and desires; making each client feel special...

Thank you for this. In my civvie life I do get dressed up with hair and make up, but I don't sleep with different people sometimes multiple times a day. That is out of the norm. I consider every session a work out because that is what I'm there for - to work you out! I get one too of course, as its natural, and after two or three hours (let alone over night!) I might just be beat. Its easy to get tired and weary from a full days work, and in each session I gave 110% (Side note, Cowgirl done right will tone your hip flexors and ass in a way you've never imagined.... but the workout can cause leg numbness, foot cramps, sweating, shortness of breath, charlie horses, etc!

Also, what if I'm having a bad day but my appt is in an hour? Hard work to put your personal life aside and make a gent's day mystified and exciting while your back burners are hard at work? I'd say so.


"will someone please tell me other than using our brain to count the donation for us doing exactly what we do for free in our civi lives when we are going in to the public, or courting a gent we find attractive, what "hard work" are we putting forward to make use any more spectacular that any other broad you can get some HAWT booty off of from the street or out of the grocery store?"

On another note, I don't date in my civvie life and very rarely have sex with these dates. If this is something you do in your private life, then maybe there is no difference for you. However, the HAWT booty in the store most likely doesn't have the experience and confidence that a gent is looking for with a lady of the night, and I doubt she'll get a 10/10 when put on the spot with a random guy who might be like your uncle Ed with psoriasis! She'll say no right away!

I think this job is difficult but can be commanded with an air of tact. Communication, scheduling, preplanning, organization all contribute to a successful execution of an appointment.


On another note, being willing to give every guy who walks in your door a BBBJ because thats what your profile said would be pretty hard work for me, one reason I don't do it is because how unsettling it is to my mental and physical health. Without that service I won't see a 10 *I don't think?* but its obvious that the 10/10s are participating in this!

Some sessions are easy, but most are average. The easy session includes a handsome gent walking in that you weren't expecting. Lube is not required, hes so hot he's got you wet. The dick fits perfectly and everything clicks.... he might be your new favorite because he does THAT like WOAH. THAT would be easy, even enjoyable. The rest I'd have to say is not 100% gravy.

But I've only been at it a year at the most, so just my .02 cents.

You are so jealous the the young, pretty, in-shape providers that you just have to try and cut them down.

Well, your petty shit just doesn't fly here. Take your "harping rants" and your cheetos and beer and find another group to piss on.

yes they "work for it" and it just isn't in the bedroom.  Many have a regular appointments at the gym to keep in shape (not sitting around at 3AM feeling sorry for herself) but then you wouldn't know about that would you.

If I were a provider, part of my "work" would be maintaining the illusion that it's not work, especially on this board. So even if Leanne is not completely sincere, I appreciate her attitude and find it refreshing!

I do acknowledge that some providers put forth a great deal of effort for their clients. Unfortunately others do not!

sincerely mean-spritied.  This is not the first time, and I'm sure it won't be the last.
These are the rantings of a sad, lonely, jealous woman-

Im sad to hear all the mean responses and posts.

My .02 in the original posts are

Everyone has a different method and a different style to how they handle the hobby.
Sure ladies like to get dressed and look their best (I'm talking about the ones who care).
The ladies who enjoy what they do put an extra skip in our step when we leave their presence. For some they are just being themselves and it comes very naturally for others it is hard work. But in the end it is in the eye of the gent who spends time with the lady the what he feels the rating for the performance was. Sadly this is very subjective and no matter how objective the TER rating system tries to be it is hard to put a consistent number on performances.

Now even for the most natural provider there are challenging gents, not everyone is a hot well groomed hunk that you just want to eat up and tie to your bed post and we know we are not. But if you go out of your way or even if it comes naturally to make us feel like we are that to me earns high level of respect because it is not easy to do.

I have had experiences with ladies that TER lowered the rating because she didn't do one thing or the other however, to me
The connection and how much I enjoyed the session was well beyond the score that TER would allow and I will be the first to say I have argued with the support staff on these. Some I have won some I have lost. But in the end it was my opinion and I wanted to fight for it.

But there is some level of effort here in the hobby. For some its just normal, for others it is not. I know im no George Clooney but if a lady makes me feel like to her I am then they are worth my time and a great review. Now, if I feel a lady has not put effort in our time together I simply won't see that lady ever again and will clearly state why I'm not happy in my review. Some I've had a case or two where my first encounter was a total mess and the lady made a point to adress the lack luster performance and decided to take another swing at it and I had a marvelous time. But at that point in time, like someone said above, she was having a bad day and didn't manage to leave her personal problems at home during our first encounter.

One thing I'll say for these boards is you certainly get a variety of perspectives from folks when you post an inquiry. Lol! (That is a good thing BTW)

Let me start by clarifying my instant reaction to the term "hard work". When I hear that I envision laboring away in a hot, dirty factory or on my hands & knees scrubbing the kitchen floor vigorously to the point of exhaustion. Not fun & I would not feel very good if someone referred to sharing some intimate time with me in that fashion. My first lesson here (based on your feedback) is rather than go with my 1st reaction, step back & remember that my interpretation is not necessarily accurate to what has been put on the table. Something I already know but yes, do need to be reminded of from time to time.

I am so glad I presented this question. You responses have jarred my memory of when I first started. & YES! At that time it did feel like "work" At times unbearably hard work to boot & I am reminded of the times I found myself hugging the toilet after a session. Bottom line is at that time I was flying by the seat of my pants with NO guidance what so ever. I had a picture in my mind of how I had to operate in order to succeed that was based on fiction. Obviously not a Cinderella story. Nightmare on Elm street comes to mind.

Over time (& it took quite some time) I came to discover that what I thought I "had" to do to succeed was in fact fiction & started making changes. I'm not going to bore you with the specifics of those changes (the list is long) but I will say that I came to acknowledge that the way to truly succeed is to go with how "I" perceive I should be conducting my business. End result, today I really DO enjoy what I do & it no longer feels like "hard work" to me. Yes I get frustrated & tired. Then again there is nothing in life that hasn't impacted me in that manner from time to time. As the saying goes. "You love what you hate, hate what you love." That's just life. When I get in those modes I simply take a rest from the hobby until I'm "over it"

Finally. In response to the accusations that I am mean spirited, jealous, a bully, ect. Sorry you feel that way. I actually care very much about people & there are many here that know & will attest to that. I am blunt & to the point. Not to mention (as I've pointed out before) I HATE TYPING so my post are short & to the point & inevitably yes they can at times present a cold & heartless message to the readers. Take my posts however you choose & thanks for you participation.

Hugs & safe wishes to all!
Leann

I am not going to indicate which Ladies, but there are some VERY highly reviewed and respected women in this who have confided that they have had to do some pretty low things in the past (not HH, I have never had the pleasure of meeting her). My heart goes out to them because I know them as good people, fine ladies who with differnt circumstances and differnt decissions could have lead completely different lives. Or at least could have avoided those ugly parts.

But hell that goes for all of us. If you are going to throw stones, you better take a long hard look at yourself first. If your such a Saint, what the hell are you here for!

As Leeann pointed out, many have lived through knowing what hard physical work is. Esspecially the more mature crowd. (generalizing) So I can see the point she may have been trying to make on her original post. I'm not saying what some of the providers do is not hard work.... Hell I'm sure there are days good hard physical work seems easier.

shakespeare said it best..'double double toil and trouble..fire burn and cauldron bubble'

Well put.

Ah, but he also said, "The play's the thing in which we'll catch the conscience of the king!"

As far as the putting on make-up and getting ready shit, I roll my eyes when chicks get to bitching about that.

Responding to lots of e-mails and returning phone calls? Big fucking deal. I do it everyday. Many people do. They don't all lead to a sale - that's life.

I have no sympathy for the formal business end of it, - communicating with customrs, marketing, jumping through the hoops at the whims of idiots who often seem to be trying to test your patience on purpose just because THEY are the customer - it's no harder than any other biz. Suck it up. (*Bad pun alert*). To be fair, it's no easier, either.

It's all that other stuff. I wouldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I imagine some of the most hideous, cringe-worthy broads I have ever known. Having to touch them...be touched by them...*vomit*...and pretend to like it too? And actually give a shit if they do?

Fuck...that...shit.

For everything that happens after the door opens that conflicts the very nature of their emotions and the laws of natural attraction - there I can give credit where the credit is do. That isn't something everyone can do.

I'd be a terrible hooker. I'd open the door, give the chick a once over and be like 'oh...hell...no...' *SLAMS DOOR*. They'd have to send me full nude pics as part of screening, and write a 500 word essay on the nuances of personal hygeine. They'd still be subject to bathing in rubbing alcohol upon arrival at my discretion. My rates would be through the roof to begin with and I'd upsell based on how slap-yo-mama ugly they are. I'd deduct 5 minutes from their session for every stupid joke they told that was NOT funny. No, that position won't work, you're too fat. Want to cuddle? Here's a nice fluffy pillow, knock yourself out, I don't know you like that. Yes that's my phone ringing, now shut the fuck up so I can answer it. How was it? It's how you think it was. Time is up, get out, the sooner you leave the sooner I can start trying to scrub the image of you out of my mind with a fucking brillo pad.

Dealing with bad (hopefully would-be) clients has got to the the worst.  Some of the tales I have heard make me cringe.