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mschambers See my TER Reviews 904 reads
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She is saying that when you list a provider, make sure you include the way you contacted her so she can verify you.

This works: My name is John, I've seen Trinity (Phone#/email). She will know me as (another email, phone number, etc).

This does not: My name is John, I've seen Trinity.
(If I email Trinity and she doesn't keep emails, she might not recognize you just as John)


As far as "Info that the reference provider has on file for you"....

Everyone does this differently. We cannot keep every single one of you in our mind by first name and dick size! Some ladies prefer to archive/keep emails, some prefer a contact list with phone #s, some prefer a personally encrypted file on their computer with neither of the above information.

The go-to info you would give to a new lady you want to meet would be your method of CONTACT to the reference provider *initial contact is good, perhaps by email or TER pm* and your method for CONFIRMATION OF DATE with this provider*If you called, include the # you called from*

By including this info we can easily and quickly screen, and not repeatedly ask gents for this info if you know this when making initial contact.


Trin, do let me know if I'm mistaken!

Hugs
Natalie

TrinityLake1875 reads

When you list providers as references, we check with those providers.  It wastes a lot of time if you haven't given us the information (another email, phone number, etc) that the reference provider has on file for you.  Please be thoughtful of this.

Trinity

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2late1049 reads

Are you saying that you and other providers are keeping files on their customers? How safe is that?

Posted By: TrinityLake
When you list providers as references, we check with those providers.  It wastes a lot of time if you haven't given us the information (another email, phone number, etc) that the reference provider has on file for you.  Please be thoughtful of this.

Trinity

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DickCurious1075 reads

My thoughts exactly. While I understand the desire to give feedback to other providers in a quick and efficient manner, if that data is not maintained in a secure and encrypted fashion, you're putting your client at great potential risk not only from LE, but also from hackers that could use the information for blackmail.

I suggest a, "Providers Workshop on Security and Encryption of Client Data".

Posted By: 2late
Are you saying that you and other providers are keeping files on their customers? How safe is that?
Posted By: TrinityLake
When you list providers as references, we check with those providers.  It wastes a lot of time if you haven't given us the information (another email, phone number, etc) that the reference provider has on file for you.  Please be thoughtful of this.

Trinity

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DickCurious1004 reads

I learned quite a bit myself from this article.

Related Link: How to Encrypt Your Email

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Portia Eden885 reads

and that link you posted is awesome!  

there are other secure data programs out there....  Providers can pm me for details.

Thank you!!

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minn4evr833 reads

Posted By: 2late
Are you saying that you and other providers are keeping files on their customers? How safe is that?
I'm all for safety, but not sure I understand your point. Providers have to have some identifying information when they give a reference, otherwise what's to stop LE from calling up and saying "I'm 2late" and using your name to get themselves verified. So long as the file consists of your TER ID, verification site ID, hobby phone, and hobby email, where's the beef?

Not trying to start a fight. I'm honestly unclear on the concept. Should they try to keep all this information in memory? For every single client?

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2late783 reads

I have seen different girls ads or websites which ask for a piece of information which would help a 'reference' remember you. Maybe something you had a good laugh about, or your occupation, or where you are from. I did a jig once for a gal so she would remember me.

Also I have no problem giving my TER handle out and this can always be associated with a review for memory help. If I use TER PM to communicate it also verifies who I am. I have made a handful of dates with top-notch girls that only knew me because of my TER credentials. Many girls say that NO information is kept so what is their system?

But yes, if hobby handle and phone is all that is "filed" maybe that is the most we can hope for. Unfortunately, hobby email unless well-encrypted, can be traced.

If my TER cred's are not good enough, I don't date. And when a girl mentions a "file", I want to be clear on what we are talking about.

Posted By: minn4evr
Posted By: 2late
Are you saying that you and other providers are keeping files on their customers? How safe is that?
I'm all for safety, but not sure I understand your point. Providers have to have some identifying information when they give a reference, otherwise what's to stop LE from calling up and saying "I'm 2late" and using your name to get themselves verified. So long as the file consists of your TER ID, verification site ID, hobby phone, and hobby email, where's the beef?

Not trying to start a fight. I'm honestly unclear on the concept. Should they try to keep all this information in memory? For every single client?

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vorlon678 reads

Providers will keep some information but it is still our decision what information to give out.  So long as we are careful about that, our risks are reduced.  No they aren't eliminated but no one who does this should ever think this is a risk-free activity.

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MsDynamite731 reads

The request is simple so no need to get all freaked out.
Most ladies require a couple references,  it HELPS A GREAT DEAL if you include her contact info so it can be cross checked. Idk about anyone else but I tend to keep a good memory of who I've seen unless too much time has gone by and since there's quite a bit of same name ladies,  I'd also like to know specifically so I don't get the wrong one. Thanks. Also most of us know how to safeguard our computers etc. So worry about keeping yourself safe.
I only save the bad guys info. Xo V.

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Pollenbroker781 reads

All she was saying was to be courteous and connect the name of the reference to a phone number or email.  In other words, "My reference is Tiffany -- [email protected]" instead of "My reference is Tiffany" which leaves the provider with at least the inconvenience of finding the provider's email and phone, or worse, not being able to contact the reference, or worst, contacting the wrong reference.  (which of course wouldn't occur with "Tiffany.")

The post did not suggest in any way that anything other than the hobbyist's handle was exchanged, kept or disclosed.  

Obviously best practices call for encrypted information and other secure measures, but the post was not about that.

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DickCurious663 reads

Regardless, 2late raised a legitimate concern. Passing along reliable reference feedback on memory alone would require super human efforts. This thread is a good reminder, or introduction, on keeping client data secure. And really, it works both ways. Hobbyist should be encrypting their email accounts to protect provider information.

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lockstock770 reads

I think she was saying "Please give me the same contact info you gave to the provider you are using as a reference."  And that's a reasonable thing to ask.

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2late700 reads

I read it a few times to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding but I can see where you may have taken it the other way.

Posted By: Pollenbroker
All she was saying was to be courteous and connect the name of the reference to a phone number or email.  In other words, "My reference is Tiffany -- [email protected]" instead of "My reference is Tiffany" which leaves the provider with at least the inconvenience of finding the provider's email and phone, or worse, not being able to contact the reference, or worst, contacting the wrong reference.  (which of course wouldn't occur with "Tiffany.")

The post did not suggest in any way that anything other than the hobbyist's handle was exchanged, kept or disclosed.  

Obviously best practices call for encrypted information and other secure measures, but the post was not about that.

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cheyen689 reads

I tried for 2 months to get through the sea of security checks the author of this thread asked of me.  I finally gave up.  2 reasons.  First is I can not risk having info go viral.  I am mid 50's successful business and recognizable enough that what ever happens in Vegas needs to stay in Vegas.  I have posted reviews so the info is out there.

which leads me to the second issue.  If you are over 50 there were no computers in my school.  the micro chip was INVENTED in 1971.  I do not participate in social media and do not have the computer interest to develop the geek skills.  If your target market is successful gentleman over 50 don't make it so difficult that we would give up.  Your safty is paramount.  I am as concerned about your safty as I am my own.  It is not about being rigid.  If you make it too difficult many of the customers you want will just fall away.  I have met many wonderful ladies and had treasured experences.  Never met anyone who was not anxious to see me again.  Only one time did I decide to give up because the muster was to difficult.   Stay safe at all times but don't make it so hard that it is not worth it.

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asu200422747 reads

As I read your post I have flashbacks of trying to teach my parents how to use a PC and the internet. You don't need to be a web developer to figure out how to meet with Trin... She's WELL worth the effort (so I've been told)

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Drumsticks791 reads

...there's one in every IT department.

Related Link: Move! Braniac ;)

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phoebster795 reads

"0h, I'm sorry.  Should I save your game of 'Mindsweeper'?"  

Posted By: Drumsticks
...there's one in every IT department.

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DonDosEquis671 reads

Help me understand - you can post on here but don't know how to email?  Or is it texting?  

I don't get it.

Posted By: cheyen
I tried for 2 months to get through the sea of security checks the author of this thread asked of me.  I finally gave up.  2 reasons.  First is I can not risk having info go viral.  I am mid 50's successful business and recognizable enough that what ever happens in Vegas needs to stay in Vegas.  I have posted reviews so the info is out there.

which leads me to the second issue.  If you are over 50 there were no computers in my school.  the micro chip was INVENTED in 1971.  I do not participate in social media and do not have the computer interest to develop the geek skills.  If your target market is successful gentleman over 50 don't make it so difficult that we would give up.  Your safty is paramount.  I am as concerned about your safty as I am my own.  It is not about being rigid.  If you make it too difficult many of the customers you want will just fall away.  I have met many wonderful ladies and had treasured experences.  Never met anyone who was not anxious to see me again.  Only one time did I decide to give up because the muster was to difficult.   Stay safe at all times but don't make it so hard that it is not worth it.

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Pollenbroker774 reads

Reconsidering, it's also a call for clarity in the verification process.  Is a TER handle enough?  Is a pseudonym ("My real name is John Doe but I go by Dick Cox") enough?

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Drumsticks809 reads

...it's exhausted. Can't hold you responsible for slips it might make. I don't see anywhere in your post that says that you keep files on your clients. Are you being presumed guilty until proven innocent?  ;)

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mschambers905 reads

She is saying that when you list a provider, make sure you include the way you contacted her so she can verify you.

This works: My name is John, I've seen Trinity (Phone#/email). She will know me as (another email, phone number, etc).

This does not: My name is John, I've seen Trinity.
(If I email Trinity and she doesn't keep emails, she might not recognize you just as John)


As far as "Info that the reference provider has on file for you"....

Everyone does this differently. We cannot keep every single one of you in our mind by first name and dick size! Some ladies prefer to archive/keep emails, some prefer a contact list with phone #s, some prefer a personally encrypted file on their computer with neither of the above information.

The go-to info you would give to a new lady you want to meet would be your method of CONTACT to the reference provider *initial contact is good, perhaps by email or TER pm* and your method for CONFIRMATION OF DATE with this provider*If you called, include the # you called from*

By including this info we can easily and quickly screen, and not repeatedly ask gents for this info if you know this when making initial contact.


Trin, do let me know if I'm mistaken!

Hugs
Natalie

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TrinityLake912 reads

Shame on me for not being able to get on TER all day, but it was kind of interesting to read all this at once.

*deep breath*
No, I don't keep FILES on people on my computer or anywhere else.  It would be quite a bit easier if I did.  I do, however, know if I have see someone who uses the email they contacted me through or their hobby phone.  I've got clients who only contact me through P411 or TER and no email any other place.  Thanks for the post on securing email, it is a good reminder to anyone who hasn't.

As for the guy who tried for two months?  Um, no.  I have a huge clientelle of gentlemen over 50 that know how to email.  However, all the girls you see are backpage girls that use only phone.  How I choose to do business is what works BEST for me.  If it didn’t work so damn good, I’d probably change it.  If you really wanted to see me, you’d change, too.  Clearly, neither is the case, and that’s ok.  I am not for everyone, and everyone is not for me.  No need to.  I have a couple Luddites (cool word; look it up) that don’t text.  Drives me nuts, but that is something I can work with.  When I’m checking references at 3 in the morning, I think calling up a provider is a rude way to go about it.  I can’t have people calling me, so I don’t feel comfortable calling other people I don’t know.

All I’m asking from this post is that when you give me a reference (which I specify to be well-reviewed providers with a link to their TER page), please include information of your phone number if that’s how the reference provider would know you or your email address or TER handle if that’s what you have (be prepared to email me from TER if that is the case).

As crazy as this all got, I am glad it came up, too.  If you really want to be careful (since you don’t know what any provider actually does without asking them all), get a hobby phone that is not linked to any name and use a hobby email (hushmail is encrypted)- Put a fake name on the email.

These are not difficult things to do.

Stay safe,
Trinity Lake

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