I am curious and I am sure a thread existing on this subject is down there somewhere but do any of you guys send the women a copy of your ID? Isn't this supposed to be anonymous? The women are not exposing themselves so why should we.  I get it for safety reasons but what about our safety and all that.  The industry has changed.  Been doing massage since the Old Choice Massage days over 20 years ago now I'm mid 40's and nobody answers emails or asking for an photo Id.  Time  for a change

Never give out your ID. Get P411.

It does seem though that quite a few do.  The ladies are free to run their businesses as they see fit but my choice is to see ones whom I don't have to provide PII in order to see.

this is me beating a dead horse here but using P411 doesn't mean you won't ever have to show your ID. Don't get me wrong, I know most providers won't ask; however, P411's policies are pretty clear that if a provider requests to see your ID upon arrival to the appointment, you have to show it (with certain information covered up if you'd like). If the client refuses to show ID upon arrival, the provider can ask the client to leave and then inform P411 of the client's refusal to show ID upon arrival. P411 will then suspend the client's account until they are re-screened.  

I’m sure she’s amazing! But not for me if ID, pictures and that type of this goes with it.

Some of those I have heard about at 411. The second paragraph, the last sentence, is about how many busts and stings start...especially around here. Sometimes, LE has been in the group/site for a while.

Yes, I do ask for an ID to confirm identity and do a background check. I am an open sex worker and my actual identity is not a secret (my incall is also my home that I own). Within the last several months I have actually had two gents that I had to turn down because of one being convicted of possession of kiddie porn, the other being convicted of assault (female coworker). I have posted on this multiple times but have yet to get an actual answer on how to locate this information to protect myself without requesting an ID and doing a background check. And if you would like to just have anonymous encounters might I suggest just hanging out at a bar and keeping your fingers crossed? Otherwise yes, if you want to spend time with a reputable provider that is going to be clean, polite, professional, and get your money's worth 99.99% will ask for your info.

Amen, sister. I do the same and I even turn down those who have had recent, ongoing encounters with law enforcement (traffic or DUIs) because if they're not going to respect the law of the land, why would they respect me??

Its a big difference in put a picture of your Id on line or to some provider who may use it for who knows what -
VS - showing your ID to a verified P-411 provider who simply wants to view it before the meet.  This facetime verification along with pictures and video is going to end badly for someone. It really makes p-411 verification more valuable as a provider has plenty of time to contact your OKs and verify you in advance. A smooth no hassle low stress meeting is in the best interest of all legit parties.      

Really?  If someone who has had a speeding or parking ticket contacts you, you'll decline to see them?

I will not trust anyone that I haven’t met yet myself. Are there women that I would’ve liked to seen, yes, but my personal safety and personal information are way too important to me.  That being said there are two women (no longer in the hobby) that knew my name and where I live. Trust is earned and they in turn shared their personal info and invited me into their lives and homes. I miss those days and women.

No one drives under the speed limit anymore.

Thanks for sharing that info, super helpful. I don't mind showing my ID at the beginning of a meeting. However, I will not share a photo of my ID via email especially gmail or other non-encrypted email. Maybe with Protonmail if I really wanted to see someone, but I have no idea what kind of security hygeine folks have so it'd be very rare or exceptional. I try to stick with P411 providers and often include my LinkedIn with the P411 request. But that's my choice and I understand it might not be for others.

P411 user number is composed of bits and pieces of your ID. So showing your ID on arrival is designed into their system.

When I said traffic, I meant moving car violations, so not parking.  

Oh they do.  I run into them periodically, usually in the fast lane.

Weird thing is I have over 90 okays and have never been asked to show it as they describe.  Not one single time.  I have been asked by a couple of P411 providers to send a photo of it for screening, but I declined as that is not something I do.  I would be willing to show it upon arrival (with specific areas covered to protect my identity) if asked in advance.

If the above is true and you require ID from everyone why does your website say
Form of screening:
Provider References
Work Verification  
P411
ID

"I'm unsure what possesses a person to think they can engage with reputable providers anonymously. If this is your expectation, it's highly likely you're one 'fun' time away from a sting or robbery.

In my case, my thinking is that I've been seeing reputable providers without giving them my id for some 20 years.

The OP (in this 20 years) asked why do I need an ID and you responded basically no ID, no meet and I hope you land yourself in a world of hurt for meeting those without giving out an ID.  At least you came back and acknowledged and ID is not necessary with other things in place but that was not your first response.  I think most here have those things and I don't see anyone saying anything different or being triggered......except maybe Paige who always goes off the train tracks on this subject.

...hobbyists that are deathly afraid of their identity being compromised.  Your hypocrisy is glaring.  It's really unfortunate that you chose to include that last sentence.  

I’ve seen several wonderful ladies in MN. 99% of the time P411 and/or referrals.
The 1% are the ladies who want “selfies” “ID” or my linked-in info. And…. That’s a big old NOPE!

Had you listed P411, provider references, and Work References when you said P11 we would not have had this runaway train. Work and P11 are not acceptable to most clients here, but understand the need for something.  
These same clients are probably not going to see a provider who asks for nothing.

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I think you made an unwise choice.