Providers are any of you strongly against specials and if so why?

Guys do you think it says something specific about a provider that runs specials?

Does anyone believe that specials might take place because of unforeseen money problems such as a car breaking down or do some see it as desperation or intentional undercutting of other providers?

Guys and providers do you think that running specials can cause anger and frustration to those that don't because it screws with perceived value of the basic act,
 in other words: providers could get pissed at each other because they feel that specials cheapen things or set up higher expectations?

Guys do you realize that a special is only for a limited time and that once it's over, it's over or do you really try to hold out hoping she will run another special

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I see nothing wrong with it. It's all based on supply and demand. If there is to much supply and the demand is not there something has to give. Either all would have to drop prices, which is not likely to happen, or you will see some do a sale to draw people in.  

No different then places offering coupons to draw in people that wouldn't normally go there. People know that the coupons won't always happen but the places hope that the few times you use the discounts that you get hooked on the place and will continue to go back even at regualr prices.  

Just another marketing move. Of course some places don't like it and think that it will cheapen things but I see it as good marketing. This field is just like any business and marketing is a big part of it. A lot of places start out using discounts to build a client base and after that happens they don't need to run discounts as often or ever if they don't want to. Those that may get upset about it maybe don't understand how the business world and marketing need to work hand in hand.  

Those that don't or won't do it may be losing out on building their client base and that is totally up to them and how they see their business.

Keeping the balance with all the others

And it is entirely up to her if she wants to do so.

Lol aka specials for 1 very simple reason. New clientele most of my business comes from regulars so if I am promoting myself in a new city I'm visiting or have been to a city more then once but only seem to see my regulars I tend to post some sort of "Prebooking advantage"

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Makes it sound like I'm surprised that you did something smart.  :P  Was NOT my intention!  Shutting up now

I didn't take the "actually" as sounding like it focused on her but rather on her "idea" was new to you (as in you had not thought of that idea).

Anyway, I think it's a sad day when you have to apologize for something so trivial like this Trinity. Just got too many White Knights, Black Knights, trolls, morons, and others here making trouble instead of helping each other as this site was intended... IMO

I just read it after I posted it, and it was funny to me.  That's all.  Nobody said anything to me.

it includes a special or something different based on an ad the lady has run, I think it is great marketing.  It set one ladies ad out from another!  Ad writing contests, mystery gifts, straight discounts for regulars, or for new customers.  I think it all help break the monotony or reading ads from one week to the next.

Photos, catch phrases..keep them coming, i love them all!

Personally I have always disliked discounts for new clients and higher prices to your regulars. To me it shows you don't value your regulars as much as people trying you out for a cheaper price and then moving on. If your going to offer a discount offer it to all and raise prices to all after the special. I understand trying to bring in new clients but don't shoot your regulars in the back either. Just my personal feelings on it and to each their own on how they feel about it.

for providers.  If they offer a discount, it can be difficult get their "normal" price at a later time.

I know of one provider that charges more for new customers and offers repeat customers a lower rate.  Which makes sense, because repeat clients don't need to be screened.

A provider I used to see would occasionally offer me a discount to see her because it had been a while see we'd met (and she no doubt needed extra cash).

Personally, a discount won't convince me to see someone I normally wouldn't, but it may encourage me to see someone sooner rather than later.

If a provider offers discounts on a regular basis, I am unlikely to see her during a non-discount time.

I would have to say that...never mind nobody cares what I think!

Creative ads break up the monotony of the ads I read.

Now to your comment of regulars versus new clients.  As some men prefer not to repeat with ladies I have met a few ladies that prefer not to rely on regulars.

Reasons these ladies shared with me;

1) Most regulars WANT more than a lady is willing to share the longer the relationship lasts.
2) Some regulars become over bearing and clingy
3) A couple ladies admitted that they have addictive personalities and tend to become too complacent with long tern regulars.
4) One lady mentioned that she became jealous with a regular seeing others.

Some of these ladies prefer to travel more, have a lower volume longer sessions.  Some prefer business men that travel only.

I don't bust anyone's chops or suggest how any hobbyist or ladies choose to enjoy their play dates.  I'll leave that up the judgmental people here!

She won't see me because I'm black, her price is too high, she only sees men over 35.  Do I really have to have a 10" pecker to do anal with her?  You mean she won't gag on my dick because I think it sound funny or I like to see her uncomfortable.

I think I should compile a list of BBFS girls so I don't have to see them, wait she did that with you, I have seen her many times why not me?

Grow up and get a life!  There are many ladies that offer a vast variety of services, times of day, and preferences.  Find the ones that fit your liking and pass by the others without ridicule!

"Discounts are problematic...for providers.  If they offer a discount, it can be difficult get their "normal" price at a later time. "

I'm guessing you mean this is a bad thing then right?

"I know of one provider that charges more for new customers and offers repeat customers a lower rate.  Which makes sense, because repeat clients don't need to be screened. "

Now if it is a regular that never pays regular price it is a good thing?

"A provider I used to see would occasionally offer me a discount to see her because it had been a while see we'd met (and she no doubt needed extra cash). "

I am not sure if this a bit presumptuous on your part but it seems you again like the idea of a discount.

"Personally, a discount won't convince me to see someone I normally wouldn't, but it may encourage me to see someone sooner rather than later. "

I think again you would see the provider sooner if she offered you a discount.

"If a provider offers discounts on a regular basis, I am unlikely to see her during a non-discount time. "

I am pretty sure you are liking the idea of her offering a discount!

You seem like most humans...you like a good deal and find it hard to pass up or feel inclined to buy things when the price is right!

If your header means that it is problematic for the lady but you like it...I would disagree it is problematic for them.

I think the ladies are pretty smart bunch as a whole...If they are offering a deal to you it is because they WANT to and are more than happy that the guys take advantage of their offers

... I think your last statement misses a point. I believe (and if I'm wrong my thesis perishes) that providers set their rates at a level that allows them to feel good about what thay are doing. Call it ego, or self-worth, or greed, or whatever you like; they look at the market, look at themselves, and set a number that lets them feel comfortable in their own skin. Pre-booking advantages and the like are different, they offer an incentive to do something which gives the provider comfort. But I don't think providers offer discounts just for fun so when the market is slow, or they have an unanticipated need for funds, or some other external force compels them to offer a discount to increase volume, I don't agree that providers are going to be happy about it. Pragmatic, yes. Happy, no. You can say it is just the free-market economy at work and they need to get over it, and you wouldn't be wrong. But it's also undeniable, I think, that it's a different thing for a grocer to reduce his mark-up and put cereal on sale to maintain revenue, than it is for a woman to decide she'll have to accept $50 less for a blowjob than she feels she is worth. I could be wrong, and really it's kind of silly for guys to be expounding about what women think, but that's my opinion.

Relax! Of course the gals can do what they want and I will see the gals I like. No ridicule on anyone. I was just saying MY preference nothing more and nothing less.

otally agree - specials, discounts, grandfathering in and all that stuff that most guys like can be a very big problem for the relationship. Both parties have to be open and honest about it especially if it an ongoing situation because someone is bound to get hurt by it. You can never expect anything.

What I hate is when multiple reductions are involved, specials,repeat client, grandfathered in, P411 discount. And you can't ask about donation! Do they all apply? or just some? How is one to determine what is appropriate?

No matter the business...when money is coming in you are HAPPY when you have NO money you are SAD!

As a business owner you have to do what makes you HAPPY(ie have money in your pocket). No?

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My post was written from the perspective of the provider.  Do I like discounts?  Yes, absolutely.  There are presently two providers in this market who have been offering fairly regular discounts.  One I have seen before and one I have decided not to see.  Regarding the former, it is to the point I would not see her without a discount, she is a good lady to see, but I am patient and am confident another discount is in the offering.

As for the provider who used to offer an occasional discount, I always went back to the "normal" rate.  I was fine with that because neither of us was a clock watcher.  If I was done after a half an hour, I might very well leave knowing that there were multiple times we went over the time limit due to conversation or having fun.

Regarding another post, I disagree pricing is driven by what makes a provider "feel good" about herself.  It is a matter of supply and demand.  If she is not busy at $350 and lowers to $300 she will probably see and increase in business, but if she raises the prices back up to $350 she could expect less activity.

I don't think an extra $50 bucks is going to make a difference in a lady's psyche.  I assume the ladies I am with enjoy what they are doing or they wouldn't be doing it.

Unless they purposefully short that 50 of course .
There's always those who will give themselves a discount without informing the lady...but that's another discussion to be had later.

I've been wondering if I should even bother having them anymore because often I still get the regular amount plus more regardless of special I have going on .
The ones who scour for specials usually don't follow through .
My theory that it only increases inquiry volume is proving true. Not that it's bad or anything, just time consuming to pre-screen etc

Ok I have to say some more:
First thanks to everyone and their creative thought provoking answers.
Next I would like to say I started this topic as much to inform -as to information gather.
Things like those of you who always hold out for tht next deal, isn't that silly if you truly enjoy the provider?

I wanted to make a statement about how many times problems do come up unexpectldy in life, unusual last minute cancelations, unforeseen car problems Ect. Ect.  

When the situation calls for a deal does anyone think: maybe I should visit and or tip to help out, or, are more people busy planning their next adventure around a deal?

Do other providers get so frustrated they feel it undercuts each other & maybe they wish everyone would get more on the same page?
Or do some providers think that said provider special means that she doesn't value herself as much?

Is there resentment if you miss the deal, IMHO there shouldn't be,  

I do believe most gals on TER enjoy what they do but I completely disagree with 50$ not meaning much either way to the provider, everyone likes to feel valued that's exactly why "tips" exist to show extra appreciation.
 
I 100% agree a provider takes into consideration her own value and then looks at the market, some can't get past their value to ever adjust and others do without a problem, it is about how busy you want to be.(and sometimes about ego)  

But anyone who says they don't go out of their way for a deal  in this lovely sate of MN, is flat out BS-ing.

I myself have met with over 3 of the people that have replied here and everyone single one has a met me when I had a deal of some sort.
As far as it being confusing I toss the statement back at you what's an extra 50$ when spending money for such an intimate act.
 Worried  about grandfather, "regular rate", & specials well if your grandfathered rates trumps the current special that's what you stay at, if there is no current special when you book then you are regular rate.
 
You see it all the time with traveling providers, different cites and circumstance warrant different rates. Again IMHO it's on the Client to look at the TER profile or website and say 'I would like your X time rate'
 (two stones with that mentioning time & rate but no acronyms or other tasteless acts)  

You never know what goes on in everyone's private life:
what I take to fill a lost time frame, verses what I my take for a Friday or Saturday night could vary greatly between the beginning of the weeks special.  

It shouldn't be so difficult as long as you respect each other, try not to overstay much and reap the benefits always overstay and you may miss out on some deals.
 
The biggest thing is to communicate in a tactful way before going in, & it can and has been done a million times.

I've learned a lot running specials and unfortunely I haven't found much justification for continuing them dealing with too much silly-ness that, as Vi said, is a whole other topic.  

Thanks everyone for you POV and thanks for your understanding in my right to use an alias.
Some of you probably know who I am, most of you won't care.  
Please know,I, like most all of the awesome ladies of MN, value all of you immensely.  

 

" if there is no current special when you book then you are regular rate. " when talking about grandfathered in.

  Whats the point of having a rate from previous visits then. I may run into this issue if I see a certain provider again after having no issues with this the many times I saw her this fall, especially when bringing up money is a no-no.

A "grandfathered rate" is different then a special, so your question is slightly confusing, but I think you mean 'what's the point of myself ever getting a special' (previous rate)  
To be grandfathered is: when you were a loyal client for so long you were with her when she first started at X rate and now she's raised them but she wants to keep you,
 or maybe you met while she had a limited menu and she raised rates and expanded her menu.

 
So if you're not grandfathered and you caught a special you either wait for another special or you meet again at a regular rate, if you plan to be loyal or see her for a number of times maybe tell her at that time.
 It's then between the two of you on what if any specials she offers.

I, myself am starting to consider a loyalty special, X amount off for regulars, but if it's been over a year You are no longer a regular, and bounce back to non special rates.

Idk as I said previously I have too many problems running specials and I feel it's slightly disrespectful to other providers, just  
IMHO.
I do want to say at least 50% of gents I meet have no issue at all with my rates, they don't hunt my specials and even bring gifts and leave tips,  

there are different kinds of people that's for sure and it makes is hard to ever justify specials when there is such a drastic difference between deal seekers and non deal seekers, (IMHO again about it being disrespectful too to the no deal seekers)  
just sayin'  

 

 
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... are that I appreciate providers who offer top-notch service at a reasonable price, at their regular rates. That's enough of a special for me.  

I won't name names (shill thread doesn't start for a few hours), but there's many local providers who IMO could charge more and they'd get it, and deserve it. I'm just glad I live in sensible Minnesota than on either coast, or Chicago. Ya, you betcha dere.