Minnesota

PrEP doesn't work on syphilis...and other thoughts...
snafu929 18 Reviews 3295 reads
posted
1 / 23

Instead of dragging stupid shit over from the general board, how about something that WILL impact mongers in Minnesota?  

128% rise in syphilis in Houston since 2019.

This is Minnesota and a year old;

Syphilis cases increased 25% with 1,832 cases in 2022 compared to 1,457 in 2021.
New infections continued to be centered within the Twin Cities metropolitan area and among males, particularly among men who have sex with men.
However, the presence of syphilis among females and people who can become pregnant continues to be of concern.
Primary and secondary syphilis cases increased 19% with 676 cases in 2022 compared to 564 in 2021.
20 cases of congenital syphilis in infants were reported in 2022. This is a 42% increase from 2021 when 14 congenital syphilis cases were reported.

icyblu 117 reads
posted
2 / 23

BBFS is fun and exciting until every discoloration or weird sensation messes with your head. Just play it safe and use protection.

IJMiggs 122 reads
posted
3 / 23

Not sure the purpose of this thread.  FWIW, if you are picking up girls stranded on the side of roads, truck stops, retail parking lots, or rest stops, STD’s come with the territory.

snafu929 18 Reviews 96 reads
posted
4 / 23

....is what turns you on the most, I would guess you should know what comes in that territory.  And no, I'm not into dudes or chicks with dicks...again, check some of your previous postings on that.

If you don't know why this post is relevant, your either stupid or intentionally ignorant.  I'm guessing both.

Now that you've chimed in and infected the thread, admin will be culling it in about 3...2...1....

vorlon 119 Reviews 93 reads
posted
5 / 23

Stirring shit up for no reason other than your desire to continue your feud.

Nago8 4 Reviews 105 reads
posted
6 / 23

yes, just blame the poor and working class for all your problems, such an easy thing to do if youre a jerk

IMhornbody2 45 Reviews 94 reads
posted
7 / 23

I cannot believe I clicked on this thread.....lets shill

snafu929 18 Reviews 114 reads
posted
8 / 23

and with more bbfs being offered because people think Prep will protect them from all things bad...it's going to continue to grow.  Obviously there are some who relish the thought of going back to the 70's when condoms were not really part of the conversation.

Manwithmanyhands 23 Reviews 90 reads
posted
9 / 23

There was a long thread with a lady who was being very open about her using PreP, and getting tested regularly. Let's just say I HAD to test myself too.

DirtyRanger2 40 Reviews 91 reads
posted
10 / 23
IJMiggs 95 reads
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11 / 23
WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 84 reads
posted
12 / 23

I have never heard this before, but PreP protects only against HIV transmission, it does nothing to protect against other STI's. I am not sure when this rumor began, but it is false. Syphilis is easily treatable with antibiotics when it is detected early. If not treated it can live in the body for years and cause major health issues and can be transmitted from mother to child. STIs are not just a "gay" issue, so we really need to be cognizant of this and we need to be proactively doing what we need to do to keep our selves as well as our community safe and healthy.

ElleTee See my TER Reviews 131 reads
posted
13 / 23

This is why regular weekly testing in addition to prep is essential

bluenorthMN 95 reads
posted
14 / 23

What say you Ranger?

Posted By: DirtyRanger2
Re: Clearly the suggested course of action is....
Should we all become nuns?

snafu929 18 Reviews 104 reads
posted
15 / 23

It would be great if all players took on that responsibility and got tested weekly.  If that were actually the case, the numbers would not be climbing as they are.  Unfortunately, there are some providers that can't take a week or two off and there's plenty of mongers who simply don't care who is being infected.  When I see known raw doggers admitting that that it isn't because it feels better, it's the actual act of doing this with a complete stranger combined with the unknown ramifications that really gets them off (or the only way they can get pleasure).   These people are the ones who scare the hell out of me because they are actively among us.  

crsm27 31 Reviews 90 reads
posted
16 / 23

What I mean by this is that people who are partaking in this adventure we all are on this website are not the ones spreading things the most.

it is "civies" that are doing it.   People who participate in this "hobby" are typically more careful than others... .even when doing BB options.  

It is the people bragging about "bagging" people once a week and twice on the weekend at the local watering holes or the "pick up" culture.   The one night stand culture.... the Plan B is my Plan A culture.  

But it is good to put out warnings and last talk about testing and other things on this site as well.

snafu929 18 Reviews 103 reads
posted
17 / 23

…about exploiting vulnerable young women who let things go to get a little cash and in different posts inquire about discreet abortion and STI related services.  They also are the ones that will try to pull off the hat without their friend knowing it.To your point, a lot of this goes down in civvie life but they do walk among us here as well.  This is an increase of risk to is all.

geompls 4 Reviews 102 reads
posted
18 / 23

I think this is a valid topic and should be discussed more. Even though us hobbyists and providers should be aware of this and cautious during our encounters I don’t think everyone gets tested on a regular basis which they should. A lot of these diseases don’t have any signs and some people think if they’re wrapping it up or playing safe they’ll never catch anything but there’s always the slight possibility of catching something even when using precautions. I had a provider from a well known group tell me one of the gals she shares a space with is positive for something that is not treatable. I’m hoping that provider  uses extra precautions and does not offer bb services. I have not seen her and do not plan to so I am not sure. It’s a little concerning given the fact the gal is in a group who all offer bb services and upgrades. It led me to not see that group anymore.

Elahmoon 100 reads
posted
19 / 23

Also don’t forget to add that a good handful of stds/stis remain undetectable for weeks, as hiv can be undetectable for a year.  
As a provider myself I don’t understand how others can comfortably perform those services, maybe it’s because I graduated and have studied this topic.  
I just don’t understand, even providing with a cover is risky but without is just a brainless thing to do.  
Unless you already have a major one and don’t care/respect for themselves or others, that’s the only logical explanation for this service being allowed that I can think of.  
As honestly I could never allow myself to do that, it’s how I keep myself healthy, as well as keeping my clients healthy.  
I hear “baby I’ve never done it please baby” all the time and I never believe it as I read forums and see that guys tell each other to use that line.  
Honestly most guys also say “I have an extra 100 for you,” that’s the price of a hotel room, of getting my nails done. How is that equivalent to possibly catching something life long that will lower my life span and put me out of work.  
Also if the provider allows you to do bare whos to say she didn’t just have some random guy cum inside her 20-30 minutes before you….  
Idk all I know is the providers allowing this is making it so that the ones that are safe, don’t have any clientele as everyone’s looking for bare now.  
When I started providing 3 years ago I’d get asked to do bare maybe once a week but now it’s everyday.  
It’s just honestly horrible business in my opinion.

snafu929 18 Reviews 89 reads
posted
20 / 23

...think they're dealing with a better type of client but I can guarantee this, many of those high dollar clients are also trolling the bottom of the barrel where it's not just lower prices but a much better chance of finding a gal who may have drug dependencies that cause them to engage in more risky behavior or simply are in a situation of desperation and will cross those boundaries for a little more cash....then show up here (and other platforms) and in pm's boasting of it and sharing the details so others can go rawdog her.

geompls 4 Reviews 107 reads
posted
21 / 23

I agree. It is absolutely brainless for anyone to engage in bb services. No matter which 3 holes they’re putting it in.  Sometimes people get lost in the heat of the moment or providers who are in dyer need of money allow bb and the next thing you know they’re living with something they can’t get rid of. On top of that.. imagine the debt you’d be in going to the doctors and hospital visits for something like that. Then they would really be in dyer need of money and the situation repeats itself.. they then expose it to their clients who expose it to other providers and it creates a chain reaction of people getting exposed to a long term infection that cannot be cured. I think people need to start thinking with their actual brains and the bigger picture. A fbsm provider I see mentioned this topic to me recently when I asked her how business has been. She told me that so many providers are offering bbbj for the ending that now many of her clients have been expecting that and disappointed that she doesn’t offer that. She’s a great provider and gives a great service. It’s a shame that other people in the hobby are ruining it for the people who want to play it safe and still have fun. I told her to keep thinking smart and not to let her guard down. I appreciate the providers who keep it clean.  Eventually if this continues everyone will have contracted long term infections and no one will be safe anymore. It’s a vicious cycle that should be taken seriously.  

As a client I’m aware that getting a bbbj from a provider who has an infection in her mouth can easily spread to me. If I was to go hook up with my gf or wife after that visit then it would be spread to her. The rate of diseases and infections spread through oral is a lot more possible than people seem to think. BB services are not safe in anyway. No matter what. It’s not hard to use cover. Sure it doesn’t feel as good but you have to ask yourself would it feel good contracting a disease that will eventually cause you long term health issues and problems? NO!  
OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE. BE SMART. PLAY SAFE.

Elahmoon 113 reads
posted
22 / 23

Yes I love everything you just said, I just want to add I forgot to add in my original comment that BB is not the only services that can transfer this DATY and kissing can also transfer the things of mouth.  
Then also some thing I have in the back of my mind is I don’t have a kid yet but I plan on having one once I settle down I don’t want to give birth and then have a baby that has some thing lifelong because of a mistake I made when I was young.  
I don’t know it’s just a lot that I think about when it comes to this topic.  
I feel like sometimes clients feel like I’m a prude because I don’t allow all that but at the same time I don’t know what they just did with the last provider for all I know she could’ve had chlamydia the mouth.
yes I know that could get better with antibiotics but i’d still be passing it around without knowing up until finding out I had it and chlamydia and gonorrhea of the mouth typically seem like a cold commonly a sore throat.

GrandPoobah 90 reads
posted
23 / 23

You're never going to be completely safe, obviously, but the evidence sure suggests that Doxy-PEP works.  And while the encouraging studies have been for MSM and Trans-Women, it is hard to see how it would be different for Straight cis-men.  Sucks that the one study on cis-women was discouraging, but if you are worried about syphilis, get a Doxy-PEP prescription.  And before anyone says anything, the evidence is very suggestive that it does not have any effect on antibiotic resistance, which makes sense given how it is being used.  It does need more study, of course, but it does look like an excellent protection against bacterial infections.

That said, it does NOT protect against hepatitis, etc.  Everyone still needs to weight their own level of acceptable risk, and even if you are on PrEP and properly use Doxy-PEP, condom use is absolutely still recommended.

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