I am a provider and have been for almost 2 years now. I have never had too many problems with my clients. This is my second time to Minnesota and it will DEFINATLY be my LAST. I have never had so much disrespect. First of all, let me just say that not all providers are the same. We are not all GFE, we are not all full-service for $200! Why is it that so hard for some of you to understand? The other day i had a guy come in with $200 and not ONCE did i say it was full-service for 1/2 hour, and he didn't even ask. When he found out it wasn't full service for the $200 he FLIPPED out and completely disrespected me in every way possible. I was and still am shocked! He then came here to write a really nasty, and un-true review about me. You shouldn't all go in expecting excatly what you think what your going to get and then go crazy when you don't get exactly what you want. It's fine to write reviews about providers, but is it really necessary to bash us like that??

seeeeeeeeeeeeeya
I'd flip also but I bet you never told him it wasnt full service how many do you suck in on that deal

I was in Mlps a few weeks ago and had a wonderful time with the clients I chose to see.  Perhaps better screening is helpful in making sure the types YOU DONT WANT can go elsewhere. If you allowed him to come over without clearly stating the details, how can you blame him?  How bout when your confirming you ask him what it is he expects so you don't go through that again?
    Just like you don't want to see certain types, the potential client might not know exactly what you offer as perhaps reviews are not accessable to him.  You have to decide if that is a client you wish to see!  
    I happen to think this city has the nicest gentlemen.
    You say he disrespected you: You allowed that frankly by not clearly stating whether in your intial email or on the phone what your all about.
"Why is that so hard for you to understand?" Answer: because you need to communicate better with who you choose to see. I would never see someone that didn't know what I was about.  That would be setting myself up for a nightmare but to take it out on the community as a whole is wrong.

I call a provider and ask for the rate.  $$$.  She comes over.  She's hot.  She takes her clothes off and starts to get me worked up.  Then with Mr. Happy in her hand she says full service is $$$$$!  I consider that a ripoff!  Tell me the rate for fs, tell me donations start at $$$ and some things are extra.  Don't wait until I'm in a lather.  Like I carry an extra $$ in spare change.

The other one is the provider who advertises 100% GFE.  You show up and its no kissing, no DATY, no touching the breasts, everything covered.  What is this, the Amish Girl Friend Experience?

That being said I have seen many wonderful providers who have blown my mind.  Mecia Kay (Danielle Flowers), Morgan Dream, Adrianna Mynx, Madison, Mindy, Zoe have all been terrific.  I highly recommend them all.  The good far outweight the bad.

At least we don't have the fat ugly Egyptian from HBO-Cathouse.

ACTUALLY HE DIDN'T ASK ME..& LIKE I TELL ALL OF YOU..IF YOU ASK ME, THEN I WILL TELL YOU. IF YOU DON'T ASK ME, I DON'T SAY ANYTHING. THE PROVIDERS THAT ARE OUT THERE FUCKIN FOR $200 IS WHAT'S MESSIN IT UP FOR EVERYONE..GET SOME CLASS!

What were you advertising as (escort, massage, something else) and what rates were you quoting?  If you were advertising as an escort and showing a price of $$ then that should be the price for FS.  When was he supposed to ask if it was FS?  On the phone?  Hmmm; somewhere along the line I got the idea that the provider will hang up if the guy starts asking questions like that.  Waiting until he shows up to have that conversation is a bad idea.  You are of course free to charge whatever you want but if you are asking $$ for half an hour here you should make it clear it's not FS.  False or misleading advertising is a very aggravating problem here in the Twin Cities.

I'll try calling an amish provider - wait, they don't have phones, or email, or electricity, or a car to do out-call(I thought it took forever for some girls to get here now - imagine if they came by horse and buggy!) -- So, how do you contact one of these teenage amish providers?? - Do they street-walk? er, dirt road-walk I mean -- I can see it now, she's looking at me, kind of a sideways glance out from under her bonnet, our eyes fix as we pass, me in my horseless carriage - Her, leaning on the "fence post of lust" at the corner of her fathers field, I ask her "if she is looking to party?", she replyed in a thick "pennsylvania Dutch" accent - certainly sir, would you have the proper coin? - she steps into my automobile - (a sin in and of it's self to her) and says "it will be 10 dollars for the first hour" - I ask if she offered any up-sells or if that was full service. She replies, for 10 dollars, I'll only do a hand job using goats milk as lube - but for 5 more she'll do full-service! I gladly pay and toss in an extra 20 just so she takes her time with me, but when it comes time for sex, she pulls out these pieces of sheep intestine, with knots tied in the end and puts one on my shaft, then lays on her back and anounces that she only does "mish" - Damn! the young ones are all the same!




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Candie,

Thank you for the breath of fresh air. I think we all need to make sure we communicate effectively so that our expectations are reasonable.  Different prices generally dictate different levels of service. But that is not an absolute rule. Be prepared and check in advance and save both of you a lot of grief.

I think that is exactly one of the purpose of this board.  It is to inform others who participate in this hobby.  If he felt like he was mislead or "ripped off", you have some control over that, now don't you?  Be more specific in your screening.
And please don't assume we, the hobbyists and your potential customers are all like that.  It sickens me that you lumped us all into one, and especially made a point to BASH MINNESOTANS.  

Just go away.

thebruha

Those sure weren't like the guys I saw this past week. I have nothing but great things to say about the gents I saw this visit. However, my donation is for full service and all my reviews state that. Perhaps if the gents had checked out your reviews they would have seen you weren't FS. Perhaps if you HAD communicated that better you wouldn't have gotten yourself into an adversarial position. No one likes to feel like they have been taken advantage of or ripped off. We ARE supposed to offer a service. There are too many other girls out there who offer exemplary service for any of us to think that the guys who see us will be satisfied with less than the best.

It all goes back to one thing girlfriend. Customer service. I'm all for us providers sticking together WHEN we're on the same page. Can't support you on this one.  

Just my two cents.
Anneke

Is there a fresh provider out there I don't know about?  I couldn't find a Zoe on any website.

You have an obligation to let us know!

discuss these things beforehand without creating legal problems?  I have hesitated to ask specifics about service because I assumed it would sppok the lady.

Is she a hot soft black girl? And does her phone # end in "1454"
If so, She's VERY UTR! and there is no real way to direct you to her - But you might want to try the Yellow pages! (I'm not kidding! You won't find her # there, but an there's an agency that can help! - Good luck trying to get a review posted for this girl! Ha-ha-ha!)

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Actually I don't even know who this "sexyalex2169®" is. Does anyone know? would you send me her link or post it? I like to look before I bash!

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You advertized two rates - 1 hr for $$$, 1/2 hr for $$.  Most guys figure its the difference in time not service.  You figure its both less time and less service.  You advertized on an adult ESCORT web site.  You don't want to really provide FS escort service - don't advertize there and don't cry foul for guys who assumed otherwise.  As for not returning to MN, thanks.

Swindlers and Lowlifes. Market what it is you're offering and provide what your marketing promises and you wont have customers who are suprised, astonished, upset and angry. It really IS that simple.

Rant over.

Sorry Alex, but I am with Anneke on this one.  I have been touring Minneapolis for 3 years and have only dealt with one unpleasant gent.  The gents here are very courteous and generous.  

You are right, not all providers are the same.  But making sure they understand what you offer is key to avoiding what could possibly turn into an ugly situation.  If advertised on a escort board with rates that are the same as some F/S girls, then you can't expect them to assume otherwise.  

We get on their case when they ask detailed questions, we can't get on their case for expecting something that is the norm on a board that mostly advertises f/s.   It doesn't take alot of time to say...Not F/S, massage only etc. on your webpage, ad etc.  I have seen many ladies word it quite cleverly without sounding brash.  Hell, some of them were so hot and worded it so well that if I were a gent....I'd call.  

The TC are blessed with a ton of great providers.  They expect service....good service.  There are a ton of ladies charging $$ - $$$ for F/S...since you didn't communicate and clearly state that you weren't F/S BEFORE the apt. I can see why he is upset.  Comminucation is and always will be key.

While there are alot of gents that have money to blow and don't care about one bad experience, there are even more gents that save and hobby once or twice a month.  If I saved up for what I expect to be a great experience and then get disappointed because things weren't clearly explained....hell yeah I would be pissed.  Although I don't think I would have yelled or disrepected you...everyone deals with anger differntly.

I am sorry you had a bad experience here, I stand by my comment.  TC gents are great.  Maybe if you visit again with your ad/ site worded differently you will get no hassles.

Missy

Alex, it is NOT a matter of Class. One does NOT acquire class merely by charging $$$ or higher for a service be it limited or full service.

There is expectations of levels of service based upon the asking rate.  If a lady decides to charge $$$ for limited service and it is clearly known that she is a limited service provider than so be it.

The problem comes when the limiations come up when you are both already naked and the upsell comes into play.

I would be curious to know how a $200 full service lady is messing it up for you?  I know some ladies charge a higher rate to eliminate some guys and get into the deeper pockets.