Just renewed my VIP as I really needed to read the VIP details on a few new providers. After reading the details posted on Alexa (massage) it seems like they are all written to make you believe a happy ending was provided without really saying that it was.  Several of the posters also have only a couple of reviews including the one for Alexa. It makes me wonder if they are fake posts. What do others think?

I agree when reading a review check to see how many they have and they do hint at it and do not provide the details they should

Alexa was very cautious because of recent LE activity in the building, but she was worth every cent. She is intelligent and extremely hot.

I agree too. It has been said time and again that it is DIY with this provider. I have had several reviews rejected because of lack of details and yet this nondiscript crap gets through? Come on!

So what does that have to do with the review not being up to standards as far as details go?

Alexa is worth the time to see.  She is a sweetheart.  

If you don't like mine or others reviews too bad.  I provided what was necessary.  If you provide so much information then certain providers do become targets.  I read several reviews and honestly, based on what I saw...I wouldn't feel comfortable seeing them.  Way too much info, its like painting a huge bullseye on her.  What a way to kill the atmosphere and trust involved when saying too much, or something that the provider is not comfortable with.  This could be a phone number, a different email address, or something that occurred during the session.  It could be something mentioned in conversation.  I do not betray the trust.  

In perspective if the provider feels comfortable with you, then things go smoothly.  Some people can be forceful and demand things, you won't be a repeat with her (any provider) if you do that.

EOM

My comment had nothing to do with her reviews,I would see her again, but YMMV

I've never had any contact with Alexa, nor do I have any direct knowledge of her services. I do not have or need VIP, so I did not read the complete reviews.

Her first reviewer has done at least 7 reviews.
Her latest reviewer is a relative newbie, but is a somewhat prolific poster on the newbie and general discussion boards, but not on the Minnesota board.
There is only one of her reviewers that has no other review or posting history. Other than that one, I certainly don't see anything worthy of suspicion about her reviewers.

How many details do you need in a massage only review? Do you want to know if she is right or left-handed?

I would expect at least one of them to mention if it was only "self service".

Yes, massage does tend to be more YMMV. These ladies do have to be more cautious.
Consider human nature. If you were a vice cop, wouldn't your priority be the massage ladies? What's not to like about getting paid to get a massage for an hour to wait and see if you get offered a happy ending? Much easier and way more fun than trying to catch actual criminals. Your tax dollars at work.

At this level of service there is a tendency for less screening to be done; if they are also doing therapeutic massage how would they explain screening or references to those customers?
There is also not necessarily a "standard" way to indicate interest in the ending; there will never be a "standards and practices" manual.  If you say the wrong thing, or even give off the wrong "vibe" you may be SOL. Telling a woman "I want what the reviewer got" isn't going to help you. I don't anticipate anything about these variables changing.

The question is about what TER requires in reviews and I have had reviews rejected for not enough details. It seems that TER is not consistent in their standars. That is all.

. . . is it just me or has there been a rather sharp increase in reviewed providers who are DIY?

yes and they all seem to be working at the same place.

Three points here:

(1) I don't see what's not clear about the last sentence of my VIP comments: "On the flip, she paid special attention to all the right places. I left a happy man, and will repeat."  I assume TER readers can get what this means.

(2) I gave much more detail in my first review of Alexa, which was posted.  Being new, I assumed, when I submitted my follow-up review, that the first one would still be up.  The reason I did a follow-up is because of the mix-up with her the first time (I paid for 90 minutes; she had me down for 60).  That generated quite a bit of discussion at the time on the Newbie board--all helpful to me, btw!--so I thought I owed it to my fellow hobbyists, and to Alexa, to report that the second time around, everything was fine, and she made up for it.  I didn't include detailed descriptions of her body, etc., because that was in my first posting.  I've now learned that a person's second review REPLACES the first one.  So, my second one does seem a little vague.

I'd like to edit my second one by adding some of the more explicit descriptions of her from my first.  Does anyone know if I can do that...and, if so, how?

(3) I think, if you read the five reviews of Alexa--and, yes, the reviews of her fellow providers at the mansion--that it's no FS with her (which I did state in my second review), and that it's also YMMV.  So, that's also why I didn't go any farther than I did in my review.  The first time, I got topless, with pants still on.  The second, it was just panties on.

og

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I am from Canada and just visting the area but what a difference in sensual massage.  In London, I can get a nude massage with a happy ending for $45 for 30min.  Tips are optional.  Some of the girls are quite hot.  As usual extras are sometimes offered and they are an extra fee.  I would post the web site but it is kind of pointless as you guys probably will not be going there.  I have been tempted to see some of your lovely ladies but in reading the reviews I am thankful I paid to be a VIP.  I would be very disappointed in having to self-serve my johnson (I can do that in my hotel room) and it looks like most of the ladies only go topless.  I am not jumping at the idea of having to see a lady a couple of times to build trust before thing get more enjoyable - but I can totally see it from their point.  

Yes, in the same way that everyone who works at the IDS Center or the Medical Arts Building downtown, or at any of the many of the restaurants in the food court at the mall "all work at the same place". As in "same location" and "same main entrance", and not as in "same business".

The location that I believe you are referring to is a commercial space that rents out multiple spaces to both massage and non-massage tenants. Yes, probably half or more of the spaces are massage businesses at this location. It is and has been such a common location for massage businesses for years that the local massage ladies have a nickname for this location. There are at least a half dozen or more SEPARATE massage businesses there. Some are therapeutic only. There have been businesses there that might be considered a "massage parlor" (I believe that the one I am thinking of moved out). There are independents. Some independents have offered "4 hand" massages with other independents in the past and may also currently or may again in the future. It may sometimes be difficult to keep score, but they most definitely are NOT all the same business.

It is also possible that some independents might share space. I do not know if anyone offers "table rental" there or not. Do not make any assumptions based on a street address alone. There are are several other buildings in Minneapolis (and elsewhere I assume) where there are also multiple separate unrelated independent massage businesses.

I know of a story about one of the dumbest hobbyists ever, who visited a therapeutic-only provider located in the same building as a "more fun" massage provider. When he didn't get a happy ending, he told the therapist that "so and so" in the same building provides one, as if that would somehow cause her to give him a happy ending. He was assuming somehow that being in the same building with the same street address (different suites!!) meant the businesses were somehow related. Great way to cause issues for the provider who apparently didn't initially realize that he was too stupid to have as a client.

I avoid any provider at that building.  There's always LE activity in that location.

You can file a problem report against the review; I've heard of people successfully doing that for reviews that are really short on detail.

You would be better off writing a 3rd review to replace the 2nd one.

Oldguy,

I did the same thing...wrote a second review, forgetting that they remove/replace the first one.  I intend to rewrite the review to fix some of the issues in my newly submitted review.  I agree with the first point.  Just rewrite and resubmit.

I will say this once.
When a place is known for something it tends to stick with it.
That is all I can say.

Yeah.  Thanks, guys.  The same thought occurred to me.  I will write a third review incorporating the relevant parts of my first two.

og

I have been there many times and I have never seen LE.  Most of the ladies there are DIY.  Some of them give great BTB, so I don't mind finishing up myself.
I have been getting massages for a long time and I think the overall trend is DIY (at least the 1st time)- I guess they feel safer when it comes to LE.

I really would have liked to have seen your first review based on what  you say in #2 below. As far as #1, why not just come out and say she gave you the H/E? I've been to massage providers who will just tease the right places while the ending is still DIY.

One of the reasons I pay for VIP is to take the guessing game out of finding a good provider. The VIP section of the reviews is supposed to be for the details that allow that to happen.

Some facts : You don't see LE but, how would you know what LE looks like ? If they're running an investigation you would never know it until too late.
Ill say another thing, not that anyone's bad over there, its the fact that south mpls isn't really zoned for massage parlors meaning massage only unless its medical or a corporate chain like say a massage envy, technically its illegal to run one in the 5th precinct only reason no one bothers them is due to lack of man power & money to shut them down like what happened in the early 90's with the saunas. So count your blessings for the insufficient funds/ staff.
Further the building has been cited more than once for zoning and other issues so that's a very good reason for them to be cautious with anyone. I would be.
not saying don't go there " but you should know that doing DIY over doing a HJ does not make it anymore safer from LE claws.
 Personally I wouldn't work anywhere in that neighborhood. Its too residential, by schools and churches not to forget the senior citizens who have nothing better to do then observe the neighbors.

Guys, if ur gonna start a thread about a particular review or provider, how about including a link? I wish TER posting standards would require it. Just frigging lazy!

I've submitted a third review that incorporates the best of the first two, including a lot more detail than was in the second one.  Hopefully, they'll post it shortly.